Tiger 737s

[Cool banana]

Tiger 737

QF never operated 747-100,s

Then Try VH-EEI [http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-747/vh-eei/vheei.html[/URL]

[planeloader]

But never operated in QF colours

[Ken Borough]

For many years Air Pacific leased a QF B747 200 and even a QF B747 100 in FJ colours. QF crew often flew it on QF runs.......

And when the Rainbow Warrior aka The Flying Fruit Tingle operated a Qantas service to Tokyo, did the manure hit the fan? If the expression can be excused, the Japanese went ballistic. The carry-on was quite extraordinary, especially as we see Japanese aircraft in all the 'Mickey-Mouse' liveries imaginable.

Back to the thread.....

[The Green Goblin]

QF operated an air pacific 747-100 in air pacific colours on the PER- DPS run around '88/89/90.

VH-EEI

http://www.airliners.net/photo/0508933/M/

[Going Boeing]

QF never operated 747-100,s

Apologies for the thread drift but QF leased an old B747-100 for a couple of years circa 1987/88 (rego VH-EEI).

[planeloader]

QF did wet lease a 747-100 from Tower Air in the mid to late 80,s

[underfire]

CASA aircraft registry...sort by regopname

Tiger
XUH AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
XUG AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNR AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNQ AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNK AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNO AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNG AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNH AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNC AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VND AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNF AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNB AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNJ AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232
VNP AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A320-232

[Wunwing]

Thanks GG.
That is exactly my point about Tiger and the B737.The experience of the QF crews at the time of the FJ contract was that despite our objections, the end result worked well for everyone.

Just to clarify the B747 100 issue. The story that I heard from very senior people was that VH-EEI which was a B747 100, was up for lease and Ansett wanted it for their 1st o'seas aircraft. QF got in first and then looked for something to do with it and decided to lease it to FJ to replace a 747 200.
I flew an early trip on it ex SYD and when it got back to SYD FJ wouldn't take it as it had so many problems. It then flew in FJ colours for a period on QF services while FJ took back (I think) EBG.

For a while there were 2 B747s in FJ colours ,but FJ only operated one at a time. At that stage when an aircraft was on an FJ flight, the crew were all FJ except the Qantas FE.FJ also operated B747 200s in QF colours. We insisted on a sticker over the boarding doors saying that the aircraft was operated by FJ.
QF crews operated the FJ coloured aircraft on their services with an all QF crew.

Ultimately QF got VH- EEI into great shape and Virgin Atlantic ended up with it and kept it for quite a while.

The moral of this story? With a bit of an open mind, a bit of a more strategic view and a bit of good award/contract writing, pilots can normally make a situation like the current Tiger B737 work better than a no change situation.

Wunwing

[TBM-Legend]

QF did wet lease a 747-100 from Tower Air in the mid to late 80,s

But not sub-leased to Air Pacific..

[Wunwing]

In 1988 for the Bi Centennial celebrations, QF wet leased a B747 100 from Tower Air, A B747 (100?) from Aer Lingus and a DC10F from Martinair.
The agreement with the QF pilots was for the flying for the pax aircraft to revert to QF as soon as possible, which it did.However there was no such agreement for the freight and QF crews to this day have never got the lfreight back.

The moral of that story is don't be arrogant about the type of flying that is available and also get your agreements right at the beginning. Its too hard after the event. Tiger crews ,take note.

Wunwing

[Global Aviator]

Prep

Preparation for bus driving switches!

[Higs]

Enough about Qantas 747. Start another thread if you want but give it a break on this one will you.......

[Wunwing]

Higs

If you are referring to the technical comments on the B747,I agree, it is irrelevant to this thread.

However if you are referring to the Air Pacific B747 operation then it is very relevant. It seems to me that the QF crews then were confronted by a very similar situation to the Tiger damp lease now. How it was resolved is a good example of making this situation work. Even more so if you know that the QF crews were going to loose work and an aircraft on the ex Sydney Fiji route which had been theirs up to that time.

Wunwing