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Old 12th Jul 2015, 10:33
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Question QF staff travel

Is this true
QF set to make 3 million yearly from new staff travel improvements ?
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 13:22
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QF staff travel

What were they making before? Way more than all other airlines I'm sure. A friend of mine at United flew to Australia in J class for $26 or whatever the outbound passenger tax was. And I saw the United Staff Travel website. It was amazing. Real-time updates, and no chance to be screwed over when check-in want to onload their friends first. You could see the first initial and the first three letters of the surname. It also showed which commercial pax could affect you with planned/actioned upgrades. Qantas' Staff Travel is so old.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 18:50
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Angry profits

Not off this post 12 year retiree !!!!!!!


How would you like to be on staff travel in Bali right now.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 22:26
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Don't know how, last email said free business upgrades and refunding upgrades if not used, also reducing many fares.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 22:42
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I wonder how Qantas survives with staff "diluting" the business class product....oh hang on, that only happens at a different airline.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 23:59
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STAFF TRAVEL

West coast East coast now $ 99.86
Yesterday $78.96.
I guess that's a positive improvement. Well positive as in its now more expensive.
Keep in mind people this is an empty seat which is why staff travel was always kept at a low cost
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 00:12
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think what QF is getting at, is to push more staff onto flights that never fill.


In the scheme of things $3 million isn't that much.
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 00:14
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Makes short trips away more of a planned exercise... Just saw the increases in J to HK and Singapore and they aren't pretty. $4 less then EK on the BNE-SIN route
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 01:41
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Why should the normal punters subsidise staff???

Also the airlines get a big fringe benefits tax bill...
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 03:20
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In every Australian organisation I have seen the staff member pays the FBT bill.
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 03:45
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Also pays to bear in mind, that Qantas continues to enjoy the ongoing services of a large number of skilled and experienced staff, who remain with the airline for one reason only.................staff travel!

So imagine the turnover and training costs QF would incur without staff travel!

Its a benefit enjoyed by the staff at most major Airlines,some with more generous schemes than QF, some not.
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 04:08
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Why should the normal punters subsidise staff???
How are they subsidising staff?
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 04:15
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subload(standby) travel is just that, however, have seen staff, get someone else make a firm booking on flights they want to go on (big no no if caught, but hardly ever caught).


Have also been on long haul flight where captain has put on freight, rather than subload pax, so above doesn't always work.


Believe QF is actively discouraging staff travel in peak periods, ie school holidays. Bad luck if you have school age kids.
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 11:00
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With late upgrade opportunities for commercial passengers, the chances of upgrades for staff passengers on Qantas international services has significantly decreased.

On all 3 recent sectors to and from DXB and LHR, there were 25 - 30 First & Business class seats 3 or 4 days out from the flight. By the time the flights departed there were 2, 4 & 3 seats remaining.

The dilution of business & first class is not due to staff. What is now happening is commercial pax are accepting upgrades for a far smaller premium than had they purchased the higher class outright. A number of pax are now buying the lower class fare and using seat availability information thats easily available online, gambling that they'll be offered an upgrade a few days prior to the flight.
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 11:50
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subload(standby) travel is just that, however, have seen staff, get someone else make a firm booking on flights they want to go on (big no no if caught, but hardly ever caught).
Does that guarantee you a seat? Where did you see staff doing this? What happened to the ones who were caught?
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 12:06
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BS flag.

Have also been on long haul flight where captain has put on freight, rather than subload pax, so above doesn't always work.
Utter rubbish! Captains don't add freight; load control does. No company likes leaving freight, & therefore revenue behind. If maximum revenue means a flight is at maximum take-off weight then 'subload' stuff (pax & freight) gets left behind.

In the case of adverse winds or bad weather at the destination, the requirement for extra fuel can mean freight is left behind. If the captain's instincts suggest that more fuel is needed than the take-off weight allows then load control is consulted to have some weight removed; usually freight.

What I can also say though, is that I've seen captains try really hard to avoid leaving staff behind if there is any way to avoid it!
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 12:59
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Agree with Jetsbest, my experience has almost always seen the Captain, offer the jump seat to staff, and do their best to upload as many staff as possible in tight situations weight wise!
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Old 13th Jul 2015, 13:00
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Agreed. In the heady days of flying to Zimbabwe, and only one flight a week, and ground staff to lazy to care, the distress of being left behind for staff when there were seats on the A/C was palpable. Till one FSD/CSM, did his lolly, raced up to the flight deck after pushback, which in turn made the Skipper do his lolly, and returned to the arm demanding staff be rounded up, seats counted, staff counted, and heads would fall if they matched. They did, and a grateful staff were brought on board after the skipper let a couple of broadsides into the air at the ground staff leaving them in no doubt how he felt. Meanwhile sitting in 1A is the Australian Attorney General. Now deceased. He in turn calls the Captain out on unneccessary delay, he had a flight out of Perth to DRW which was urgent. By now the F/O, the flighty, and myself, settled in to enjoy it all, as our red faced Skipper ( a former Pom) suggested to the AG, he ran the ship, made the decisions, and he was not leaving staff behind when there were seats available. The AG then suggested he would contact Sir Lennox Hewitt, and make a complaint, the Skipper suggested as to what he could do with Hewitt (nobody liked the bloke anyway, or the AT for that matter) the doors were closed, the F/O was handed the gig, as the Skipper contemplated his life outside QF. Halfway through the flight, the AG, asked if he speak to the Skipper, the now calmed down Skipper was feeling a little queasy to say the least, but off he went, as we discussed what the outcome would be. Ten minutes later, he returned beaming, all was well, a handshake offered, and a mutual friend discovered. I never heard another word about it, except the next time I flew with him, he talked about his mate the AG! He must have forgotten I was on the flight. He has now passed, a good bloke he was.
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Old 14th Jul 2015, 04:00
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Yet more tall stories by Ida

All AG who this could have been are actually alive, & Hewitt left Qantas in 1980 , would Lavarch have even known who he was ?

Ida did you actually work for QF as you claim, my contacts at QF don't recall a 50 plus year old working as a SO in the 90s early 2000s as you claim

Really why an earth would QF employ a 50 yo SO when mid 90s dearth of GA talent around after a slow down, it just sounds all a little well .....implausible

Have QF ever employed a 50 year old SO ? , were any 50 year old SOs employed when hiring commenced 1994/5 onwards, I think not

The oldest ever QF SO and the youngest ever Jet Pilot for TAA hmmmm...
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Old 14th Jul 2015, 04:17
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Not a tall story.

I work with his kids.

I only wish I could have shared a flight deck with this gentleman

When you fly with someone of Teresa's background, you are flying with someone from the pioneering days of jet aircraft. You are also flying with a man taught by the guys who cut their teeth with people shooting at them.

That experience and those practical interpretations are priceless.

Bugger off boatboy. I suppose it is school holidays though......
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