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Bali Flts. CX due Volcanic Ash - ABC News

Old 11th Jul 2015, 02:25
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Nanny state again, people expecting the government to do everything for them. People like this should be confined within a small radius of their local Centrelink office.

Advice regarding travel and medications is readily available on the Smart Traveller website. Telling her to go to a medical professional was sensible, if a chemist couldn't supply exactly what she needed he may have an alternative available or know where she could get her medicine from.

The media should be blamed as well for publicising this sort of nonsense thereby implying blame on the part of the airlines.

It reminds me of a sign on a garage wall,

"A Lack of Planning on Your Part Doesn't Constitute an Emergency on Mine."
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 02:32
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I don't see much publicity being given to the plans of the airlines to put on a lot of extra flights as soon as the ash cloud has dissipated either.

Next we'll be hearing whinging about how the airlines won't pay for their extra accommodation....
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 02:55
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Ash moving

Moving South now by the looks...

Volcanic Ash Graphics

Wonder who will fly first?

As for the complaining, it's inevitable but as they say, like the old Amercican Express commercial, travel insurance the same - DONT LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT.

I feel travel insurance should be mandatory plane and simple.

It cost bugger all and covers so much.

I would imagine it will be like a mass evacuation once planes start flying.

Now if all the 'stranded' pax could just remember it's not any of the airline staffs fault not airport workers so please be nice to them, super nice as no doubt they are equally stressed and more so with the odd d*ckhead bogan rant to put up with.
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 02:55
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European airlines are required to accommodate passengers in the event of weather disruptions. If your flight out of Hong Kong is cancelled due to a typhoon, British Airways have to look after you whereas Cathay don't.

It will be interesting to see the responses from the airlines involved. KLM operate on the SIN - DPS leg and could be up for a few hotel bills. This flight has about six codeshares on it but I reckon only those who booked on KLM or Air France would be in the running.

Obviously with the low costs, expect only a refund or rebooking.
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 03:38
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Airport seems to be open again. Virgin saying they'll announce by 1300 local if they'll depart any from Denpasar - they must have some airframes/crew on the ground or are going to go up empty? JQ already scrubbed for the day and say there are no .

There would seem a big PR opportunity for the airline that gets the media down to show the big a330/787 departing empty for the 'rescue'. Both VA & JQ should be able to do that without excessive extra disruption. You'd hazard a guess that Garuda and Air Asia are less likely to do so.

As for the ABC story - an absolute disgrace - I'm astounded they'd stoop to newscorp levels.

The overland route - possible but its festival time in Indonesia next week so the whole country is trying to get home at the moment. I also would be reluctant to take my family on some of the boats/roads/busses while I can sit in the beach drinking Bintang!
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 04:03
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The ash cloud is still a LOT closer to DPS than it was when they started cancelling daytime flights, night time is another matter.

It will be interesting to see what Virgin do?? Sounds like J* have cancelled everything today.
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 05:12
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DPS and LOP now open. JQ reported to resume day time flights which means Perth and Darwin I guess.
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 05:29
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Just been told by VA that we're on a special VA9547 (a 330?) on Monday.

I bet the ABC don't report that....
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 05:53
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Flights now shown as having departed Singapore for Bali as of twenty minutes ago. Still plenty of departures shown as cancelled later on.

People don't seem to understand that when a flight is cancelled it can't simply be laid on again the next day as aircraft and crews may not be available. Aircraft utilisation needs to be kept as high as possible and there may not be the capacity to pull extra flights out of the hat when needed.

The aircraft that was supposed to operate the cancelled flight more than likely just sat on the tarmac and the crew went home.
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 06:08
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Just been advised by Garuda in Sydney that there will be departures ex Denpasar for SYD/MEL this afternoon; and that the airline is planning scheduled departures from SYD and MEL to Denpasar tomorrow (Sunday).
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 13:38
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Virgin should clear their backlog pretty quick, 4 flights are on decent right now into Denpasar from all ports, with spare 737s around and plenty of crews on standby it all happens pretty quick being a narrow body operation.

Jetstar 787 operation a little slower yet to depart Australia with tight schedules not allow room for many extra flights. Could always use those A330s that went to QF?
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 21:56
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Let's see how they react to the latest.

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VA ADVISORY
DTG: 20150711/1936Z
VAAC: Darwin

VOLCANO: Raung 263340
PSN: S0807 E11402
AREA: Indonesia
SUMMIT ELEV: 3332M

ADVISORY NR: 2015/56
INFO SOURCE: HIMAWARI-8, CVGHM
AVIATION COLOUR CODE: ORANGE
ERUPTION DETAILS: VA PLUME OBS AT 11/1910Z TO FL150 EXT 150NM TO SE.

OBS VA DTG: 11/1935Z
OBS VA CLD:
SFC/FL150 S0805 E11400 - S0805 E11405 - S0830 E11450 -
S0920 E11510 - S1025 E11530 - S1020 E11400 - S0925 E11355 -
S0805 E11400 MOV SE 15KT

FCST VA CLD +6HR: 12/0135Z
SFC/FL150 S0805 E11400 - S0805 E11405 - S0840 E11510 -
S1000 E11600 - S1025 E11530 - S1020 E11400 - S0925 E11355 -
S0805 E11400
FCST VA CLD +12HR: 12/0735Z
SFC/FL150 S0805 E11400 - S0805 E11405 - S0840 E11510 -
S1000 E11600 - S1025 E11530 - S1020 E11400 - S0925 E11355 -
S0805 E11400
FCST VA CLD +18HR: 12/1335Z
SFC/FL150 S0805 E11400 - S0805 E11405 - S0840 E11510 -
S1000 E11600 - S1025 E11530 - S1020 E11400 - S0925 E11355 -
S0805 E11400

RMK: VA OBS ON 11/1910Z H-8 RGB/IR IMAGE. HEIGHT AND MOVEMENT
DERVIED FROM, SURABAYA 11/1200Z SOUNDING AND MODEL DATA. CVGHM
CONFIRM ERUPTIONS ARE ONGOING. **USE TEXT FOR FLIGHT PLANNING
PURPOSES**
NXT ADVISORY: NO LATER THAN 20150712/0135Z
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 23:59
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It's all up the sh*t again.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 00:55
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Virgin have canned the days flying. JQ website still says they're going.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 01:04
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looks like the boys on nz245 have had a long night.

akl to dps, did a u turn about asp and nearly back to akl. check out flight aware
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 01:06
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Early JQ dep. from Singapore cancelled, other airlines showing as retimed. DPS not NOTAMed closed. Another interesting day of playing it by ear.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 01:16
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Those espousing the belief that travel insurance will cover them may want to read the fine print.
Some will, most will not.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 01:47
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This policy covers it all.

https://qantasaircrewclub.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/pds_0326_001.pdf
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 01:48
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Been watching a Lion 739 in a racetrack pattern to the west of LOP.He's bugged out and appears to be heading back whence he came (CGK).Perhaps LOP is closed.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 02:15
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This morning there is a fine layer of dust on my car (Legian, Bali). It is silica, black and feels abrasive. The car was washed the day before and yesterday was mostly sunny and no visual sign of an ash cloud. I was sceptical but now appreciate why the airport was closed...
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