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Old 20th May 2015, 07:09
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yep Freedom Air stopped NTL/AKL around 2002. Norfolk Island flights stopped about 5 years ago we think.


Don't think NZ would allow TT to go domestic in NZ. What would they do ? Compete with the bottom of the market with JQ ?
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Old 20th May 2015, 08:06
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NZ is open skies so anyone with Aussie AOC can turn up and operated under Trans-Tasman agreements.
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Old 20th May 2015, 08:32
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ANZA privileges

Not quite correct. An Aussie AOC holder must comply with all the ANZA requirements before operating in NZ. JQ had a few challenges to overcome.
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Old 20th May 2015, 16:12
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Not quite correct - NZ operate AKL/NLK/AKL double banger on Sundays. Check the schedules.

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Old 20th May 2015, 23:12
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no talking about NTL/Norfolk Is
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Old 21st May 2015, 01:35
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Perhaps I was not as clear as I could have been.

An Aussie AOC holder does not have to ask anyone in the NZ government if they want to fly domestically in NZ. They have a right to operate in New Zealand.

Yes there are some regulatory operations oversight issues that need to be addressed but they do not need to ask to operate in NZ.
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Old 22nd May 2015, 01:36
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& vice versa. A NZL airline can operate domestically in Australia under NZCAA rules not CASA's !!!


think Vincent kind of had the right idea, but didn't control costs vs revenue.


They did operate a NZL registered 146 on NZCAA rules, although think it was parked at BNE much of the time & only did BNE/RMA/MEL once or twice a week.


It would be so much easier to work under NZCAA rules than CASA's. Not sure why more NZL airlines don't do it.

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Old 22nd May 2015, 09:53
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Not sure why more NZL airlines don't do it.
like who?

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Old 23rd May 2015, 02:14
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can see Kiwi Regional doing it once they get up & running in NZL.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 03:48
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can see Kiwi Regional doing it once they get up & running in NZL.
Upon reading this, several hundred pilots and aviation industry workers in New Zealand and Australia fell off their chairs laughing in disbelief that someone not only thinks Kiwi Regional Airlines are a viable business opportunity, but that they would venture and expand into an another saturated market filled with established operators with recognized brands and deep pockets.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 06:09
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Haha Kiwiregional yeah nah!
the term when hell freezes over comes to mind.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 07:05
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Don't worry about him, he just loves coming up with stupid ways for other people to spend their money.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 07:44
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QUOTE Upon reading this, several hundred pilots and aviation industry workers in New Zealand and Australia fell off their chairs laughing in disbelief that someone not only thinks Kiwi Regional Airlines are a viable business opportunity, but that they would venture and expand into an another saturated market filled with established operators with recognized brands and deep pockets.


END QUOTE


which is probably a good omen for KRA.


Obviously many pilots have no idea where their pay comes from.


& govt airline(NZ) who are high cost, can't even run certain routes.


As long as KRA keep costs under control, they'll do well (which is where Vincent stuffed up)


Vincent should have never got an Australian AOC & should have stayed small & nimble instead of having huge staff which they then had to find work to justify & ending up doing FIFO at below cost.
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Old 23rd May 2015, 12:49
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i dont even know where to begin with any of that
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Old 24th May 2015, 06:21
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Think about it.


If someone didn't have a go, most pilots wouldn't have a job.

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Old 24th May 2015, 18:01
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
I'd expect them to take loss making Perth to Phuket and Bali services off Virgin sometime soon.

With a lower cost base than Jetstar I'd imagine their keen to jump into the Bali and possibly Jakarta markets against AirAsia from Perth.
Last time I heard our CEO talk about the above topic we have an 11% lower cost base than TT
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Old 24th May 2015, 23:34
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maybe TT wants to establish themselves on the tasman before the likes of Air Asia X & Cebu Pacific start flying it. Don't think Scoot will be permitted to, because tie up with SQ/VA/NZ.
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Old 25th May 2015, 01:21
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For those suggesting TT will take over DPS from east coast and the PER-HKT - there is a reason why JQ wasn't doing MEL/SYD/BNE-DPS direct with A320s, the 320 just doesn't have the legs of the 738 with 2 ton less fuel. It is very tight at times on the 738, some of those sectors are up to 6 and a half hours.
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Old 25th May 2015, 02:46
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this thread is about TT flying the Tasman. Please stay on topic.


TSV/AKL anyone ?


MCY/AKL maybe in addition to some NZ flights ? If they work might become all NZ eventually.
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Old 25th May 2015, 05:30
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airnz have done akl-mcy seasonally before

3 times weekly again by airnz from end of june by the looks
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