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VH OJA off to a museum

Old 8th Dec 2014, 21:33
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There physically is no where around the museum to put it. Not unless they want to park it next to the threshold of Runway 03. Or put it well away from the museum.

The ground is not 'damn hard' either. They recently had to get a crane in to lift the nose of EBQ up so they could redo the concrete under the nose wheel, because it was sinking. Black soil country, just about anything will sink in it.

Personally I don't see what significance the 747-400 has over the 747-200. The -200 was the entry into the 'Jumbo' era, the -400 was simply just an upgrade.

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Old 9th Dec 2014, 07:42
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Read about that London-Sydney delivery flight.....

VH-OJA Boeing 747
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Old 9th Dec 2014, 09:30
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz2GS5aG4C4
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Old 9th Dec 2014, 09:52
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as a survivor of vh nga (check it out) I an trying to work out the emotional attachment you guys have to a number?
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Old 9th Dec 2014, 21:03
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It's all to do with the magic of flight and the belief that an aeroplane is not just a machine but a living breathing thing that has a personality all its own. There's also a component of new isn't necessarily better.

Are you sure you're not an accountant - or a mathematician for that matter.

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Old 10th Dec 2014, 01:07
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Read about that London-Sydney delivery flight.....
Thanks for the great link cdc, and a little more about the day she arrived..




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Old 11th Dec 2014, 08:12
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Just read a release from Longreach Museum on Facebook saying they will NOT be getting OJA but thankyou to all for showing interest in the Qantas founders museum.

The Aircraft is going to the HARS group at Albion Park.

It's now scheduled to operate an extra flight from LAX back to SYD on Dec 18th. QF 18

( it's already in LAX now sitting around I guess as that was supposed to be its last flight before going to Victorville )
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Old 11th Dec 2014, 12:35
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My sources who have sources in the Qantas also point to HARS.
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Old 11th Dec 2014, 22:57
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As a user of YWOL on an almost daily basis, attempting to land a 747-400 there would raise several significant issues.

The only runway it could conceivably use is 34/16, which is just over 1800m long and rated to 25 tonnes. It's 30m wide, with grass either side. It has a PAPI and a published GPS approach at either end. Nothing else.

I am not sure either the runway itself, or the turning bays at either end, are strong enough to suport the aircraft or to allow it to turn it around, under its own power or being towed. To remove the requirement to turn the aircraft around on the runway after landing it would have perform a full-stop landing to finish by the intersection, meaning only runway 16 is "in play", and one hell of a lot of reverse-thrust would be required. It will require an exemption for overweight operations as a "once-off".

I have doubts the taxiway to the HARS area would also suport the aircraft, since it was laid down in the days of YWOL being a 5.7t airport, although it does support Connie. (Not sure what the pavement-loading difference between the 747 and Connie landing-gear actually is. At least the 747 has a lot more tyres to spread the pressure over.)

So flying it there presents serious technical issues, but if anyone here has more detailed knowledge maybe they can shed more light on these matters.

If OJA comes to YWOL it may well do so on several large trucks, to be re-assembled in-situ. Information to hand via the council suggests it will occupy a large space between HARS and where the old restaurant used to be (where the Dash-8s of old used to park).

If it does come to YWOL, it will be a tourist drawcard indeed, and the HARS people will take good care of her. And, if someone does have the conjones to land it here, there will be an enthusiastic and numerous audience to witness what will be truly a once-in-a-lifetime sight, sound and experience.
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Old 12th Dec 2014, 09:20
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As a user of YWOL on an almost daily basis, attempting to land a 747-400 there would raise several significant issues.
Errrm .... you do realise they took a 747-200 into Longreach, right ? Min fuel, stopped it on the runway and towed it to final parking position etc etc. Pretty sure if they can get EBQ into YLRE they can get OJA into YWOL
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Old 12th Dec 2014, 19:46
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Last week there was alot of work going on at IRA, demolishing the remains of the burnt terminal and control tower complex.

Maybe cooincidence but it ties in here with the suggested location of OJA final resting place.

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Old 13th Dec 2014, 11:34
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OJA to WOL

I guess WOL would not be a real problem, seeing that SAA flew two 747's into Rand Aerodrome in Jo'burg some years back. Even landed on the grass!
Welcome to The SAA Museum Society Search U Tube for the SP landing there.

Will certainly draw a crowd I expect
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Old 29th Jan 2015, 01:36
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Read about that London-Sydney delivery flight.....
and the Flight plan.....

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Old 7th Feb 2015, 06:10
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Wonderful to see such a donation by Qantas to an aviation museum.

The cynic in me thinks that no profitable disposal option had been secured. After all, a complete and operational 747-400 being delivered FOC is a rare event indeed.

Sometimes PR returns more than the cash gained from asset sales.
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Old 7th Feb 2015, 09:08
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I am trying to work out the emotional attachment you guys have to a number?
This could be the subject for a doctoral thesis. You've got a savant like Rainman, who could rattle off page after page of the phone book. And also happpened to know the air safety statistics for Qantas.

Then there was the Railwayman character, subject of a recent movie, whose knowledge of railway timetables was staggering.

But more ordinary brains do retain a mass of numbers relating to motor cars and aeroplane types. What really impresses is the way certain engineers and others knowledgeable about aero engines can retain the strings of numbers and letters pertaining to a particular engine.

Remember though, the good healthy minded aviator type will always be fascinated to know (and appreciate) certain vital staistics.

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Old 10th Feb 2015, 02:21
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Capt David Massy Greene/VH OJA

With the impending delivery of VH OJA to HARS at Albion Park has anyone considered involving Capt.David Massy Greene in the process ?
David was the Captain on the history making non stop flight from London to Sydney on OJA in 1989.

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Old 10th Feb 2015, 13:05
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Hey, Cap'n.
What do you think?

See you at Albion Park.
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Old 17th Feb 2015, 13:37
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YWOL ... March 8
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 11:51
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They recently had to get a crane in to lift the nose of EBQ up
And managed to do quite a bit of damage to the fuselage in the process, having declined expert assistance, so I am told.

Tootle pip!!
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 14:11
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Umm, have I missed something?
What's that to do with -OJA?
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