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Mt Cook's hiring rate has increased to 8 per month. A new ground course every 2 weeks for the foreseeable future.
The 30 odd Eagle jobs are said to be 12-month fixed term til Sept 2016 with no bond or type rating costs. Training to start in mid-July.
Fixed term would imply no guarantee of employment at the the end of contract, but having said that, if you finished the contract without a permanent offer to continue elsewhere in the group, then you'll be very well placed to get picked up when the next hiring kicks off ( if you keep your nose clean during your contract, that'll be a long 12-mth job interview)
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The 30 odd Eagle jobs are said to be 12-month fixed term til Sept 2016 with no bond or type rating costs. Training to start in mid-July.
Fixed term would imply no guarantee of employment at the the end of contract, but having said that, if you finished the contract without a permanent offer to continue elsewhere in the group, then you'll be very well placed to get picked up when the next hiring kicks off ( if you keep your nose clean during your contract, that'll be a long 12-mth job interview)
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Drpo in share price by 10% - investors getting cold feet?
Domestic battle about to commence and now internationally?
I can see the writing on the wall for wage / hiring freeze or possibly some redundancies?
Domestic battle about to commence and now internationally?
I can see the writing on the wall for wage / hiring freeze or possibly some redundancies?
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Skystar, so your suggesting that Jetstar announce using 5 Eastern Dash8s to 4 regional destinations from December and AirNZ will respond by halting all growth across the group ( given the link vacancys are mostly created by internal moves to the jet fleet ), and make staff redundant from subsidiaries that are already short?
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I know of two people who have interviewed this week. I also know of at least one AIC graduate who has been given a provisional 'yes' into the Eagle contract scheme with 400-500 hours TT. 
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I also know of at least one AIC graduate who has been given a provisional 'yes' into the Eagle contract scheme with 400-500 hours TT.
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Nothing wrong with it I would say. The AIC students spent quite some money in order to get there, and the course itself was designed to prepare a student for multi-crew operation in an AirNZ environment.
I'm just going to get the popcorn....
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Nothing wrong with it I would say. The AIC students spent quite some money in order to get there, and the course itself was designed to prepare a student for multi-crew operation in an AirNZ environment.
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Perhaps HR are onto something and there's more to this job than hours in the book? Did I just say that out loud?
Trouble is, Human Remains are a self replicating virus that's managed to create an industry based apon buzz words and mediocrity. Ever notice how HR bods tend to be wimin in their late 20's to about 40ish wearing dark trousers and comfortable shoes?
In airlines they are often ingratiate themselves with the cabin crew component and thus they have turned pilot recruitment into the daftest process that barely recognised what the job entails.
But that's just my opinion.....when the revolution comes, they will the first to be "liquidated"
Too true, it's a bit of a worry when a recruitment / HR consultant is the sole voice of the airlines pilot recruitment policy. Heard a story recently of a young blade calling the Koru club for a bit of pilot recruitment info, and was told by, yes, HR / recruitment that he didn't have enough hours - and to rub salt into his already bleeding wounds went on to say that other applicants had many more hours. Surely to god in this day and age we are a little smarter than basing entry level pilot recruitment on purely hours. This young kiwi chap had nearly a 1k hrs of which 700 hrs were in a multi crew airline environment - more useful I would suggest than 1500 hrs in the circuit as a c cat.
FFS the HR department in Air NZ do not control the pilot interview minimums or process. HR are the contact point and manage the appointments and book the rooms.
The GM Pilots (currently also a B737 Capt) in consultation with the Chief Pilot and senior fleet managers (all current pilots) decide on the criteria they are looking for with respect to hours, education requirements etc for each round of interviews based on applicant pool. HR then select pilots from the list who meet the criteria specified from GM Pilots for interviews.
Line pilots who have completed a course on assessment and interview skills training run the interviews, sim assessment, skills tests etc. The Line pilot assessors rank each applicant and present the findings to the senior pilot managers who make the the recommendations to employ or not employ.
The only process that is not run by the assessor pilots is the physc doctors.
The decision to re interview link pilots was not made by HR but by the pilot managers.
The GM Pilots (currently also a B737 Capt) in consultation with the Chief Pilot and senior fleet managers (all current pilots) decide on the criteria they are looking for with respect to hours, education requirements etc for each round of interviews based on applicant pool. HR then select pilots from the list who meet the criteria specified from GM Pilots for interviews.
Line pilots who have completed a course on assessment and interview skills training run the interviews, sim assessment, skills tests etc. The Line pilot assessors rank each applicant and present the findings to the senior pilot managers who make the the recommendations to employ or not employ.
The only process that is not run by the assessor pilots is the physc doctors.
The decision to re interview link pilots was not made by HR but by the pilot managers.
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I disagree with what "Pilat" said.
I know personally of people getting interviews for Eagle with 1200 total of VFR time through instructing, basic MEIR lapsed years ago so expired instrument rating etc no ILS endorsement and not been trained through Air NZ approved.
While at the same time I know of people with 2000tt and 400-500 hours multi IFR B-cat instructors who haven't heard a thing, my self included.
Who knows what they are doing, maybe they are pulling names out of a hat? hah!
I know personally of people getting interviews for Eagle with 1200 total of VFR time through instructing, basic MEIR lapsed years ago so expired instrument rating etc no ILS endorsement and not been trained through Air NZ approved.
While at the same time I know of people with 2000tt and 400-500 hours multi IFR B-cat instructors who haven't heard a thing, my self included.
Who knows what they are doing, maybe they are pulling names out of a hat? hah!
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Maybe you're right, but surely that can't be the case for several instructors at a large flying school.
Pilat, what do you propose one would say on such a phone call? "Just wondering why I haven't got a interview?" wonder how that would go down.
Pilat, what do you propose one would say on such a phone call? "Just wondering why I haven't got a interview?" wonder how that would go down.
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I have to agree with c100driver, HR these days exist purely to arrange the recruitment day and organise/liaise with everyone that's required to attend. I don't know the finer details of how they select who attends each recruitment, but one or two individuals scanning through probably thousands of applications doesn't make me feel very comfortable. I'd absolutely suggest a polite phone call, not an email! If you want an interview you're going to have to work for it, there are plenty of others waiting in line.
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The GM Pilots (currently also a B737 Capt) in consultation with the Chief Pilot and senior fleet managers (all current pilots) decide on the criteria they are looking for with respect to hours, education requirements etc for each round of interviews based on applicant pool. HR then select pilots from the list who meet the criteria specified from GM Pilots for interviews.
