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Virgin to expand Long Haul

Old 2nd Nov 2014, 14:00
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Mate it'll be Ejet ex CBR to Wellington or Auckland. On the embraer that could be classified long haul. Hence the PER base closure, freeing up ejets for Tasman flying. Why do you think embraer has been working on EDTO 120 for the ejets?
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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 14:08
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EK 2 x pilot SIN-BNE/MEL, KUL-MEL, BKK-SYD. Don't go to 3 pilot until flight time >10hrs based on seasonal average hence 3 x pilot (1 x CA and 2 FO) DXB-PER.
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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 21:46
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I think the two crew thingy at Virgin will be for a return trip of about 14 hours. That is what they are complaining about.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 00:54
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Don't they (73) already do DPS returns and SYD-PER-HKT?
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 01:06
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Mate it'll be Ejet ex CBR to Wellington or Auckland. On the embraer that could be classified long haul. Hence the PER base closure, freeing up ejets for Tasman flying. Why do you think embraer has been working on EDTO 120 for the ejets?
F100 would be cheaper.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 03:42
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Don't they (73) already do DPS returns and SYD-PER-HKT?
No.

Unless you mean DPS-PER-DPS and even then cabin crew pax one/operate one. Pilots fly both.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 04:10
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The longest duty possible at VAA is 13:15 for 2 sectors. With a 90 min sign on and turn around time I don't think a return to any of the speculated destinations would be doable.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 06:42
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EK 2 x pilot SIN-BNE/MEL, KUL-MEL, BKK-SYD. Don't go to 3 pilot until flight time >10hrs based on seasonal average hence 3 x pilot (1 x CA and 2 FO) DXB-PER.
So local starting time is not a consideration? 10 hours two crew red-eye is starting to push it a bit.

Guess it helps that the regulator owns the airline
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 07:10
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They operate in accordance with CAP371 (or whatever the new Euro name is for it) Trojan. Two tables, one for acclimatised the other for not acclimatised. Not nearly as clandestine as you seem to think.


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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 12:27
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Unless you mean DPS-PER-DPS and even then cabin crew pax one/operate one. Pilots fly both.
That sounds pretty tough, what is the flight time and turn around time?
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 13:25
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1310 - 2320 sign on - sign off with an hour in Perth to turn around.

If you call it ardous then I think you should give the game away.

Overall the VAI 'lifestyle' is pretty good.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 22:43
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Ahh it's not as bad as I thought then. Thanks for the info. As for

If you call it ardous then I think you should give the game away.
what a strange statement to trot out. Very strange. I think I'll carry on if it's all the same to you
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 10:54
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Silkair brings quality to Cairns and underserved FNQ | Plane Talking

Expansion you say? Forgetabowtit!
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Old 6th Nov 2014, 00:38
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Good for CNS to have a direct service to SIN again since JQ pulled out years ago. Broome maybe their next port in Australia for Silk air, great to see expansion happening. They should go for a TSV to SIN service another unserved market.
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Old 6th Nov 2014, 04:43
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Strange that Silkair will run "tag" sectors between Darwin and Cairns. They won't be able to fill those seats with domestic travellers. But if VA was doing the run for them they could.
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Old 6th Nov 2014, 06:43
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yes but they could sell DRW/CNS/AKL or DRW/CNS/another international destination from CNS. I think the rule is they must connect within 24 hours.
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