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QF to use JQ A320s to Fortescue mines

Old 15th Oct 2014, 10:59
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I thought Sky West did FDF. Did they loose the contract? Seems QF are the kings in WA.
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 12:29
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Ted Nugent:
I think JQ reluctantly abliged QF's request, this isn't JQ's doman and it isn't as simple as "yeah let's take a 320 into a mine site"

Wow, do you really think a pilot couldn't land on a fully serviceable, Tarmac laid runway? You must be on flight sim a little too much.

Yes, any pilot with half a freakin brain can fly to a mine site. No body is asking him to drive the truck or dig for gold, they're asking him/her to land on a runway. Job done, fly the next load home. Why over complicate things?!
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 12:38
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Take aircraft...land on runway. Unload pax. Fly back home. What is so hard about it?
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 12:47
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Unloading the ULD's for one. The VARA A320's aren't containerised from memory. So that's an extra expense/issue to deal with.

Other than that, a single-class 180 seat jet would seem to be the perfect charter vehicle in the West if the client needed the capacity.
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 12:50
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Ultergra, calm down mate!

I was referring to current company ops in general, NOT pilot ability! i.e. flying bogans to the Goldy and Bali, not high vis to a hole in the ground!
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 13:52
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Going Nowhere, JQ A320s don't require the containers.
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 14:25
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I'd love to see how you're going to plug it into the iPad without doing a manual trim sheet.

No can loaders equals turn around pain. I'm sure the little fokkers will show the boys how to do it.

Yes, most JQ crew cut their teeth flying FIFO. I was a skipper on just such a vessel albeit with a lower wing. Qlink crew could never transition to jets from such a basic machine.

It's just beyond their capability.
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 15:11
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Qlink crew could never transition to jets from such a basic machine.

It's just beyond their capability.
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 16:23
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I am constantly amazed at the arrogance of QF pilots on this site who denigrate the capabilities of their JetStar/VA or other LoCo colleagues.
In UK LoCo crews are trained to the same standard as for example BA. Do QF crews get extra training in Aus, or perhaps its needed!
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 03:13
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Offshore Cabin Crew due Charter not RPT
How does the difference affect working visa requirement. Anyway Part 121 ops?

KTA to DPS very close
There are no CIQ facilities at KTA, are they being added?
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 05:02
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memo to the ground staff:
When the first load of fluro comes back from Cloudbreak, Solomon etc... DO NOT repeat DO NOT spill them back into the sterile area. Hopefully you learned the error of your ways last time.
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 06:33
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I am constantly amazed at the arrogance of QF pilots on this site who denigrate the capabilities of their JetStar/VA or other LoCo colleagues.
In UK LoCo crews are trained to the same standard as for example BA.
Obviously Cessnapete doesn't have a secure grip on the style of SOH around here...

Originally Posted by YPJT
memo to the ground staff:
Relevance?

Originally Posted by EBT
A source in the know told me a while back that the A320 is better suited to some mines with narrower runways over the 738s, hence why VARA will hold on to theirs for some time.
Please explain?
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 07:22
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VARA will be doing Cocos in the A320, allegedly due to Govt requirement, and pavement issues. Zip to do with mines.
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 07:59
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Capn, just repeating what a senior official in VARA told me. Could be complete bunk, but that is why they say they are going to hold onto the A320s instead of just relying on VA's 738s. I know they did use those for a short time at Dave Forrest before XR got their A320s.

QF says that FMG requested a larger aircraft than the 738, which is why the JQ A320 fits the bill. I guess it beats flying two F100s/717s instead. Indications are that it will be flying to the two sites out until the end of the contract in two years.
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 11:40
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Seems to me that this may be just an absolute stroke of genius by Jetstar..

Jetstar Announces 'Bogan Miles' Scheme to FIFO Workers

Cheap Flight Specials and Airfare Deals in Australia and Abroad | Jetstar Airlines Australia

To celebrate the arrival of Jetstar providing FIFO services to several Western Australian mine sites we are proud to announce our new frequent flyer scheme called 'Bogan Miles".

Workers who transit on Jetstar aircraft as part of their FIFO contracts will be eligible to receive points towards their next trip to Bali, Thailand or the Gold Coast and special discounts on accommodation when booking through the Jetstar website.

A Jetstar spokeswoman has confirmed that Jetstar FIFO services will be scheduled to provide seamless connection for those workers connecting onto our Bali, Thailand and Gold Coast flights in Perth and a worker checking his bags in at the mine site will be able to check them all the way through to their international destination.

For a small fee any FIFO worker will be able to join the new loyalty program and earn points towards their next Jetstar experience.


Methinks this may usher in a new era of FIFO contracts and the stuffy, sterile services we've seen for many years may soon be replaced by a multitude of orange stared aircraft criss crossing the country in support of our important mining industry and the men and women who drive it
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 17:06
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I must be getting old.

When did methinks become a word?

Is the correct response 'youthoughtedwrong'?

Just asking.....
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 19:59
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Not old enough unseen.

From the AOD

METHINKS

(archaic) or (joc.) it seems to me.

Origin: old English.
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 21:44
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You are old enough now, and yet methinks you lose.
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Blueskymine:
I'd love to see how you're going to plug it into the iPad without doing a manual trim sheet.
I assume JQ use the standard Airbus loadsheet iPad app, and if so, it ain't that hard.
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Old 18th Oct 2014, 00:25
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Hang on, are you suggesting Comyplylot (or whatever he calls himself) reads Shakespeare??
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