Arrest over cabin baggage dispute
Here is a convenient test for seat recline...
...or bad driving, or any other dumb stuff that impacts others:
Imagine that the other person is a dead-eyed bikie with prison tattoos. Tell me again how it's your right to bruise the knees of that guy. No? Not so much? Didn't think so. Approximately 1% of the population are psychopaths. Another 3% are disposed to violence. This is the world which airline managers have created, then asked us to both endure and manage.
Re checked baggage: last time was SYD-JFK. 1:55 for bags to appear on belt. Twenty minutes later it became apparent that many of us were waiting in vain. After another 82 minutes we were out of the airport, sans baggages. But hey! Four days later they arrived no problem!
Imagine that the other person is a dead-eyed bikie with prison tattoos. Tell me again how it's your right to bruise the knees of that guy. No? Not so much? Didn't think so. Approximately 1% of the population are psychopaths. Another 3% are disposed to violence. This is the world which airline managers have created, then asked us to both endure and manage.
Re checked baggage: last time was SYD-JFK. 1:55 for bags to appear on belt. Twenty minutes later it became apparent that many of us were waiting in vain. After another 82 minutes we were out of the airport, sans baggages. But hey! Four days later they arrived no problem!
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Yep, user pays.
If you buy a seat then you are entitled to use it how you see fit. It complies with all requirements. Seat pitches are designed to conform with the median height of the target market. Go to Japan and see what it's all about.
If you are tall, then that is not other peoples problems. User pays. Pay for extra room. We all pay for extras in our life. Why inflict discomfort on the majority of other peoples liberties by preventing them reclining through intimidation or use of 'illegal' seat clamps? If you're travelling a short distance and can't afford the upgrade, then cop the discomfort. If you're travelling long distances then pay more. Simples.
And what about the vast majority of people these days that genuinely suffer from back-pain at some point in their life? They need to recline somewhat to position their back in a way that relieves some of the pain.
Personally however, majority of times I tend to consider those behind me and 'try' to limit my recline amount and choose not to do it during meal periods. But that's my personal call. It doesn't have to be everyone's.
Also agree with Keg, you are altering the aircraft. Illegal. Full-stop. Cease -and-desist or I'll 'Bring in the Feds.'
If you buy a seat then you are entitled to use it how you see fit. It complies with all requirements. Seat pitches are designed to conform with the median height of the target market. Go to Japan and see what it's all about.
If you are tall, then that is not other peoples problems. User pays. Pay for extra room. We all pay for extras in our life. Why inflict discomfort on the majority of other peoples liberties by preventing them reclining through intimidation or use of 'illegal' seat clamps? If you're travelling a short distance and can't afford the upgrade, then cop the discomfort. If you're travelling long distances then pay more. Simples.
And what about the vast majority of people these days that genuinely suffer from back-pain at some point in their life? They need to recline somewhat to position their back in a way that relieves some of the pain.
Personally however, majority of times I tend to consider those behind me and 'try' to limit my recline amount and choose not to do it during meal periods. But that's my personal call. It doesn't have to be everyone's.
Also agree with Keg, you are altering the aircraft. Illegal. Full-stop. Cease -and-desist or I'll 'Bring in the Feds.'
And what about the vast majority of people these days that genuinely suffer from back-pain at some point in their life? They need to recline somewhat to position their back in a way that relieves some of the pain.
Having a pair of knees jammed hard into your crook back through the seat isn't going to make that pain go away....it is going to cause even more back pain. At least the Knee Defenders are going to prevent those hard knees from digging into your back.
Having a pair of knees jammed hard into your crook back through the seat isn't going to make that pain go away....it is going to cause even more back pain. At least the Knee Defenders are going to prevent those hard knees from digging into your back.
Well then failed, narrow-eyed bikies.
The ones who misplaced their drug money yet retained their injured sense of personal space. Tough room, this. 
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The ones who misplaced their drug money yet retained their injured sense of personal space. Tough room, this. .
