Qantas Announcement: 28 AUG 14
Another ground breaking reality show featuring "tech savvy" twenty year olds doing normal everyday stuff whilst being made out to be dealing with major dramas every four hours?
Keg,
From Fragrant Harbour Cx & Ka are hoping China Southern make a heavy investment in Qf. I dont mean that in a good way either. CSA have some very heavy investments re fleet expansion, routes etc. If they invest in Qf, that is a good thing as seen from up here. (Takes the heat off them).
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From Fragrant Harbour Cx & Ka are hoping China Southern make a heavy investment in Qf. I dont mean that in a good way either. CSA have some very heavy investments re fleet expansion, routes etc. If they invest in Qf, that is a good thing as seen from up here. (Takes the heat off them).
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In The Australian this morning GREENS Senator Brandt blamed our Prime Minister for the current debacle at QANTAS
Always worth a giggle the greens crazy world view eh!?!? One day the Aust voting public will wake up to them...then again maybe not....
That said....it is worth remembering that the current senior QF management and board members are significant donors to the Abbott government (Or 'Gummint' in Tony Abbott speak).....and clearly the 'Gummint' (TA speak again) is well and happy to endorse the actions of AJ & LC, as long as they contribute handsomely to Liberal party coffers.....
Or as Sunfish would say..."to put that another way"........Clearly Joyce's and the QF Board actions are entirely supported by the Abbott 'gummint'....happy to take the cash and the lifelong chairman's club memberships on offer!!!!
You cannot tell me that behind closed doors, Abbott, hockey, Clifford and Joyce are not having a right giggle at the predicament they are setting you up for!!!
Always worth a giggle the greens crazy world view eh!?!? One day the Aust voting public will wake up to them...then again maybe not....
That said....it is worth remembering that the current senior QF management and board members are significant donors to the Abbott government (Or 'Gummint' in Tony Abbott speak).....and clearly the 'Gummint' (TA speak again) is well and happy to endorse the actions of AJ & LC, as long as they contribute handsomely to Liberal party coffers.....
Or as Sunfish would say..."to put that another way"........Clearly Joyce's and the QF Board actions are entirely supported by the Abbott 'gummint'....happy to take the cash and the lifelong chairman's club memberships on offer!!!!
You cannot tell me that behind closed doors, Abbott, hockey, Clifford and Joyce are not having a right giggle at the predicament they are setting you up for!!!
From the Virgin announcement thread.
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I liked JB when he said, "we are not a slash and burn airline"
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As a non airline person apart from that of consumer, I have to note the difference in the way JB presents and his positive manner and the appearances of AJ at the Qantas presentation.
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Seriously
Seriously, how can anyone, shareholder, Institution, Employees or the General Public believe a word Alan Joyce says....like Jetstar is loosing money hand over fist, why would you put a fuel efficient long range 787 in a low cost model, when you can get a far great return on the produce in a premium sector...Hello look across the water, Air New Zealand!!!
Now they have a management team and a strategy...
I am afraid unless they remove Joyce and the Board Qantas with the blood sucking leech Jetstar will continue to loose money!
It time to go Joyce, we have continuously heard the same crap over and over...you have had 6 years and produced an Airline that has continuously strunk!
Now they have a management team and a strategy...
I am afraid unless they remove Joyce and the Board Qantas with the blood sucking leech Jetstar will continue to loose money!
It time to go Joyce, we have continuously heard the same crap over and over...you have had 6 years and produced an Airline that has continuously strunk!
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Qantas has never been the same (in the eyes of the public and staff) since AJ famously shut down the Airline back in 2011.
Absolutely speechless, How much more of this incompetence do we have to tolerate?
Absolutely speechless, How much more of this incompetence do we have to tolerate?
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In The Australian this morning GREENS Senator Brandt blamed our Prime Minister for the current debacle at QANTAS
Always worth a giggle the greens crazy world view eh!?!?
Always worth a giggle the greens crazy world view eh!?!?
Personally I't say AJ and the Board managed to do a perfectly good job of destroying the brand all by themselves without the need for any outside help.
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Qantas won't be making any profit from me, they are the last airline I'd fly, due to their atrocious service, snarly attendants, hitler attitude checkin chicks, constant delays, and stranding me on the other side of the world.
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The arrogance and rat cunning of these people are best shown by the complete lack of acknowledgement of anything they did was wrong or contributed to the absolutely disastrous results that anyone but them would have hung their heads in shame. Forget the asset right downs what about the underlying results.
Puts a whole new meaning on confronting doesn't it.
Puts a whole new meaning on confronting doesn't it.
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Thoughtful Opinion piece by Sandilands today on the - Plane Talking - blog. Worth a read if you get the chance.
I am afraid unless they remove Joyce and the Board Qantas with the blood sucking leech Jetstar will continue to loose money!
Oh and the investors, well why should they care? the majority of them are institutional investors who are playing with "your" money, not their own.
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Time to thank the taxpayers.......
Would it be fair to say the government and taxpayers of Australia are already subsidising this privatisation?
How much company tax has been avoided by this latest round of creative accounting?
Mr Hockey, hundreds of millions of dollars that could have gone to infrastructure, roads, or anything else we so desperately need. No enquiry, no forensic peek-a-boo at the books, and the infrastructure minister Mr Truss is out there singing praise of the driver of this $2.8B simulated train wreck.
Is the government in on this? You tell me.......
How much company tax has been avoided by this latest round of creative accounting?
Mr Hockey, hundreds of millions of dollars that could have gone to infrastructure, roads, or anything else we so desperately need. No enquiry, no forensic peek-a-boo at the books, and the infrastructure minister Mr Truss is out there singing praise of the driver of this $2.8B simulated train wreck.
Is the government in on this? You tell me.......
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Lets face it, Joyce is not going to go, why would he?
This is all part of an orchestrated plan. Make the airline look like a financial disaster by filling the books with expenditures, slash-rstructure and try get some government relief, then reposition the books back to profitability. The grand plan is past halfway to completion (minus the hoped government wishlists).
But at the end of the day what has been achieved through all of this? An airline temporarily shutdown, loss of some loyal customers, an Aussie brand tarnished, valued and experienced staff & procedures lost forever, millions of dollars wasted, loss of routes, and a share price the fracton of what it used to be (just to name a few things).
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Forget the asset right downs what about the underlying results.
Lets face it, Joyce is not going to go, why would he?
This is all part of an orchestrated plan. Make the airline look like a financial disaster by filling the books with expenditures, slash-rstructure and try get some government relief, then reposition the books back to profitability.
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Yes and where do those predictions of sub $1bn loss come from....no chance it was the managing of analyst expectations by the Rat and their angels do you think with some well placed strategic leaks or some quiet briefings to a select few as revealed in the Senate Committee hearings???
This write down of the fleet is an interesting accounting exercise that is designed for one major purpose, hit the current shareholders and set up a windfall for anyone coming in down the track if there is anything left by the time this lot finish with the carcass.
Shameful more than confronting except to our intelligence.
This write down of the fleet is an interesting accounting exercise that is designed for one major purpose, hit the current shareholders and set up a windfall for anyone coming in down the track if there is anything left by the time this lot finish with the carcass.
Shameful more than confronting except to our intelligence.
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Reliability?
Quote "Another year of excessive fuel burn, network disruption costs and maintenance costs on obsolete, unreliable and thirsty B744s."
The most labour intensive unreliable fuel burning aircraft are the A380 lemons...The B744 are constantly having to pickup due to some A380 breaking down....
The wrong aircraft, fly too slow, over weight and use way too much fuel....thats why smart airlines like Cathay, Air Newzealand and many other could see the A380 just isnt the right aircraft....too big, too heavy and too inefficent...constant manpower black hole...QF should get rid of them...
The most labour intensive unreliable fuel burning aircraft are the A380 lemons...The B744 are constantly having to pickup due to some A380 breaking down....
The wrong aircraft, fly too slow, over weight and use way too much fuel....thats why smart airlines like Cathay, Air Newzealand and many other could see the A380 just isnt the right aircraft....too big, too heavy and too inefficent...constant manpower black hole...QF should get rid of them...
Malaysians turn
Now Malaysian to slash 6000 jobs.
Malaysia Airlines to slash 6,000 jobs and cut routes as part of major revamp
Malaysia Airlines to slash 6,000 jobs and cut routes as part of major revamp
Nunc est bibendum
Even Joyce will admit from time to time that we've got the wrong long haul fleet and that hindsight would show the A380 call to be the wrong one. That said, the decision was made in 2000 under very different circumstances. Qantas though supposedly lauds its ability to respond quickly to changes. Doesn't appear so in this case.