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Old 9th Jul 2014, 00:33
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This event itself is pretty much incidental what it does show however is that a major international drome can be brought to a complete halt due something as simple as this.
The security of any installation especially dromes are only as strong as their weakest link & in this case the chain mesh link fence.
Tulla is a joke security wise as it has miles of chain link fencing where some of it is obscured by trees/bushes very close to a major country Rd & at night where there is zero street lighting it's a haven for any nutter to get thru totally undetected.




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Old 9th Jul 2014, 00:37
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Bizarre that someone would drive through the fence and try to make it to the runway once, let alone twice. At the time we wondered if it were a dry run of sorts.
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A tripod mounted .50 cal would do the trick
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I was told by a pretty good source that it was an attempted suicide and she had planned to crash into a landing aircraft. That isn't confirmed though and should just remain a rumour for now. The incident, although serious, was not terrorist related in anyway, just a person who is a few slices short of a loaf.
It does highlight the fact that you cannot secure every inch of an airport and when it comes to vulnerability a chain wire fence is no protection. All the AFP, security personnel, security patrols, passenger/freight screening, bag scanning and body scanning and ASIC's won't prevent a loony in a car crashing through a ****ty fence and reaching a runway or parked aircraft in under 20 seconds........it's a fact of life.
It does give you some food for thought and a reality check as to how vulnerable aviation is. Now we also have drones in the hands of idiots and we have places like Botany Bay where you can park a kayak and walk onto a runway, yet we pay millions upon millions for "security" and peace of mind? Folly.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 01:16
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Agree. Nice field of fire at Brisbane as well


Cactus,

You are correct.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 05:14
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They need some good quality strong boundary fences like we have in HKIA.

I've walked around the fence there many times and there is no way anything smaller than a Tank could bust through.....

I've got some photos of the fence but cannot upload them here.

The fence has about 3 feet of concrete at the bottom, an open area covered with detectors and cameras then another smaller fence. The concrete at the bottom would stop a car or truck. ( maybe not a tank!! )

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Old 9th Jul 2014, 06:51
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And yet we still get our flight bag tested for explosives, lose our deodorant when the lid goes missing and get our 110gm tube of toothpaste confiscated
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and they took away my small tin of tuna.....:-(
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 07:10
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And we can lose an entire 777...........
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 07:29
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Imagine the excitement if you had an exact copy of the std cockpit crash axe in yr flt bag going thru the scanners, you'd be locked up for life yet an axe awaits the pilot guy next to you that skipped thru without one in his bag never having to worry about getting caught.

I've said it a few times over the years, the terrorists have done their job well as they need never step aboard a plane again for the tyranny is there for life!

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Old 9th Jul 2014, 07:42
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Don't forget the "Nuttela"!!!
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 08:18
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I had.an EMPTY 500ml coke bottle taken off me !
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 09:04
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I had them tell me (through body scanning) that my wings were a sharp object and constituted a threat to aviation. They would be confiscated before I'd be allowed through.

After a tense period and speaking to the supervisor while dialling crewing saying I would have to offload myself from the flight due to non compliance with company uniform policy they let me through.

Idiots.


Yet someone drives onto the Tarmac costing millions in diversions through a pissy cyclone fence and bypasses the entire security theatrics.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 09:27
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Very hard to stop a committed person getting through a boundary fence, especially with a vehicle.
Can see it now; government engages consultants at $5 million each, who decide that all cars should be parked 5 km from airport and all passengers/crew/visitors made to walk to terminal. Naturally there will be an exemption for politicians, who can park at the front door of the terminal.........
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 09:36
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aviation security in australia: second best in the world. just like the atc. and the regulator.

ha ha ha
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 10:10
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The woman obviously didn't realise the Aircraft cross the threshold at 50ft , not gonna hit your car there.
Once they caught the woman couldn't they clear the runway and let aircraft land , why all the theatrics. Priorities (Aircraft).
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 10:49
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The fence has about 3 feet of concrete at the bottom, an open area covered with detectors and cameras then another smaller fence. The concrete at the bottom would stop a car or truck. ( maybe not a tank!! )
There's a Defence facility not far from YSCB with a fence of that type, which despite a car full of idiot youths hitting it at high speed barely has a scratch on it.

Problem is a fence like that is very expensive, and airport operators are only interested in making money from DFO's and car parks and $8 coffees in the terminal
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 11:11
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the 2nd part bankrunner forgot is that they dont bear the cost of diversions, nor does it matter to their bottom line if they are not cat111 either. unlike their customers.

all a bit backwards really.

a wonder then that airlines dont start a consortium to buy airports.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 11:17
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I had them tell me (through body scanning) that my wings were a sharp object and constituted a threat to aviation. They would be confiscated before I'd be allowed through.
Blue

That is the best one I have seen
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 11:24
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As someone mentioned a while ago on another thread, don't Emergency gates have one lock in case Emergency Services have to drive through them ?
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