Qantas Sacking Tarmac Engineers
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The 'tone' of the Texan's email is of .... reluctance.
He's not happy about this, but who cares. No mention of the LAMEs returning to duties. Perhaps, too little significance.
Why does every bone in my body sense, caution.
Steve and team, 'thanks for all you do'.
He's not happy about this, but who cares. No mention of the LAMEs returning to duties. Perhaps, too little significance.
Why does every bone in my body sense, caution.
Steve and team, 'thanks for all you do'.
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Fedsec......why is it that tony is full or praise for the new EBA in his emails but makes no mention of the CR guys coming back??? Are they shaking your hand with one and holding a knife with the other behind their backs? Call me cynical but something stinks.
Hey Fed Sec ---
If your office closes after hours unlike your members, why not consider off shoring your staff?
This would save you costs, allowing you to operate your office for longer hours, whilst at the same time increasing your member service level.
You may even be able to pass on the cost savings by reducing your member fees.
If your office closes after hours unlike your members, why not consider off shoring your staff?
This would save you costs, allowing you to operate your office for longer hours, whilst at the same time increasing your member service level.
You may even be able to pass on the cost savings by reducing your member fees.
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JETTRONIC, was thinking exactly the same as you, no mention of the CR guys coming back? i hope there is no smoke and mirrors happening.
Imagine Tony and co saying how good they are by cutting engineering staff and implementing a pay freeze etc
Imagine Tony and co saying how good they are by cutting engineering staff and implementing a pay freeze etc
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JET and Krispy - On which occasion (in the last 8 years while Steve and Paul have been running the show) has the ALAEA lead you astray, given you false info, or cut a deal and ended up being blind-sided? They have a great track record. I think they know what they are doing.
As for the CR guys coming back, if the EBA vote gets up, you'll see them in a week; if the vote doesn't get up, you won't see them in Q uniform again.
As for the CR guys coming back, if the EBA vote gets up, you'll see them in a week; if the vote doesn't get up, you won't see them in Q uniform again.
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Hey guys,
The company cannot legally link the EBA vote to the return of the sacked LAMEs. If they were to talk about it in the same notice or document, it could fall into the category of adverse action/coercion.
They do know however that if Texan Tony was to renege on the deal, not too many aircraft would be leaving the ground. He's been cut out of the loop anyway and has been told to pretend he is in favour of the deal. Just ignore him.
One EBA meeting was yesterday. 15 minutes later it was concluded with an agreed document. Will circulate shortly.
cheers
The company cannot legally link the EBA vote to the return of the sacked LAMEs. If they were to talk about it in the same notice or document, it could fall into the category of adverse action/coercion.
They do know however that if Texan Tony was to renege on the deal, not too many aircraft would be leaving the ground. He's been cut out of the loop anyway and has been told to pretend he is in favour of the deal. Just ignore him.
One EBA meeting was yesterday. 15 minutes later it was concluded with an agreed document. Will circulate shortly.
cheers
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Hope the deal is water tight.Not like when we voted on exactly the same EBA that originally was voted down only to lose first class travel.
I wouldn't trust anything from Texas or Nasty.
I wouldn't trust anything from Texas or Nasty.
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Hey Fedsec, thanks for the info and only hope as that as tony leaves nastystien is right behind him.
I've been advised that the company will soon be contacting the cr boys and bringing them in for an interview. Is their going to be a fair process for them or are they only going to be further screwed into corner. I'm sorry but don't trust the company in doing the right thing by them. None of them have heard from the company in the past week as to see how they are going. Will they be able to take their positions back from were they lost them?
I've been advised that the company will soon be contacting the cr boys and bringing them in for an interview. Is their going to be a fair process for them or are they only going to be further screwed into corner. I'm sorry but don't trust the company in doing the right thing by them. None of them have heard from the company in the past week as to see how they are going. Will they be able to take their positions back from were they lost them?
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Yes, Qantas never had 1st Class for travel for Engineers, even if they were rushing overseas for a urgent recovery.
Steve, as the EBA is agreed and the guys are coming back to work does that mean we are free to not spend so much time with our families?
Steve, as the EBA is agreed and the guys are coming back to work does that mean we are free to not spend so much time with our families?
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first class travel
have not been on in some time....but thought I might clear up the issue of First class travel.....Duty travel on QF before the merger was always J-class upgraded to First when avail...but only on QF aircraft.When the merger happened all went to this so domestically we travelled j-class as there was no first.On international duty travel you got upgraded to first if there was space and you met the requirements...like years of service and so on....now along comes the EBA and we want the to have access to First Class HOLIDAY travel....meeting with Geoff Dixon during the EBA on a weekend and a fed ex member who I wont name was very out of line with the CEO of the time{should mention that we should not have to bow down to them ...but} and as a result we were refused access to First class....I was told some time later that the CEO was heard to say that " they want this guy sitting next to a full paying first class pax ....I don't think so"...read into this want you want but this is the way it went down.....The Rim
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Fair dinkum,blokes livelihoods and the future of how we handle a/c in Australia from an engineering perspective are on the line and ya worried about first/business class duty travel!
Mate there are some far more pressing issues me thinks........great job Steve and the union feeling proud to be associated with you blokes!
Now back on topic!
Mate there are some far more pressing issues me thinks........great job Steve and the union feeling proud to be associated with you blokes!
Now back on topic!
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SMH report the 4 year deal commences 1 Jan 2015, a pay freeze for 18 months then 3% per annum thereafter. Sorry fellas, but it ain't a 3% per annum deal. It's 3% p.a. from Jul 16 - Jul 17 and Jul 17 - Jul 18. Then it's 1.5% for the remaining 6 months of the deal: that's 0.75% per annum, not 3% per annum
For it to be a 18 month pay freeze, then 3 + 3 + 1.5 deal, the pay rise in the last year needs to be 3% for 6 months, not 1.5% for 6 months!
For it to be a 18 month pay freeze, then 3 + 3 + 1.5 deal, the pay rise in the last year needs to be 3% for 6 months, not 1.5% for 6 months!
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Sorry Monster you are incorrect about it not being 3% per annum after the 18 month wage freeze. There are many members who are incorrectly reading the EA offer document and talking about things that aren't correct.
The freeze is for 18 months then 3% per annum. That is -
3% to cover the period 1 July 2016 to 30 June 2017.
3% to cover the period 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018 and
1.5% to cover 1 July 2018 to 31 Dec 2018. (it is just half a year therefore half the rise)
You would negotiate your new rise to apply 1 Jan 2019. The above is 3% per annum and I cannot understand how anyone could see it differently.
The freeze is for 18 months then 3% per annum. That is -
3% to cover the period 1 July 2016 to 30 June 2017.
3% to cover the period 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018 and
1.5% to cover 1 July 2018 to 31 Dec 2018. (it is just half a year therefore half the rise)
You would negotiate your new rise to apply 1 Jan 2019. The above is 3% per annum and I cannot understand how anyone could see it differently.