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Old 24th Jun 2014, 03:54
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If they just build the natural gas pipeline direct to the airport it should even keep the Greens happy!
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 04:16
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A 3000m strip 600-odd nm from one of the most remote major airports in the world; ideal for a Cat3b alternate?
No, not ideal, but where else would you suggest?
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 05:35
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An interesting point someone has made about alternate fuel and lack of revenue. I suppose its already been done, but it would be good to see an analysis.

Another words an integrated cost per year loss to revenue per airline. It would then be put against the cost of a reasonable alternate and or better ILS. Could make a good case for you scratch my back I'll scratch your sort of things, another words put our fees up by x amount etc.
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 05:40
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No, not ideal, but where else would you suggest?
I'm suggesting that it is (sort of) ideal.
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 05:45
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Ok, well how about we used tried and tested methods.......
File:IWM-CH-15271-FIDO-Lancaster-Gravely.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And replace with......

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bradthomas/5567532382/
I remember my Dad talking about the FIDO system at Blackbushe (near Camberley) back in the late 1950's when it was London's third airport. Apparently it took a while to heat up and cost heaps to run, but was very effective.
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 05:49
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I'm suggesting that it is (sort of) ideal.
Ahhh, sorry!!
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 06:20
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Pearly white,

Yes I remember old friends from the bygone era talking of similar!

Maybe something these days could be designed that is more environmentally friendly, but surely a trent 900 at TOGA burns more fuel in a go around than one of these systems? Food for thought....

On further research, FIDO used roughly 250,000 (close enough to 1,000,000 litres) gallons of fuel per hour. It took 15 minutes to burn the fog off. Thus, we'd burn 250,000 litres to remove the fog........put in a 3C ils at those rates!

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Old 24th Jun 2014, 08:46
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It is well known that viz fluctuates in fog, and for what it's worth, I was taxiing out at around that time and the viz was significantly better at the terminal than down the southern end (03 for departures). I do not pretend to know what the viz was to the north of the airport (DA for 21).
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 09:29
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Eclan the ones I have witnessed two have been at the holding point then lined up behind and the other taxiing past the landing and we could hardly see the aircraft.

Very different from the original poster who sitting at the Terminal some 1-2KM away. In this instance I don't think anyone could comment unless they lined up behind the landing aircraft.

Claiming to know what the other pilots saw and did is infantile, ignorant, small-minded, embarrassing and slanderous
Except that when you line up behind them landing and you can't see squat would bring into question what they saw at the minima some 500m behind you!
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 09:48
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the reality is that Perth is like flying to Christmas Island or Lord Howe Island.
it is a very remote airfield.
Almost. Geraldton is 199nm to the North, Kalgoorlie is 291nm to the East and Busselton is 109nm to the South. We can ignore Pearce 16nm to the North also.
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 10:20
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Eclan, whatever ya reckon!

Iccy, we're talking about real jets here. Them big ones that come in over the water, not our two-pot light twins that can go anywhere (and land in the fog anywhere! ).
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