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Virgin ATR grounded in Albury

Old 18th Apr 2014, 03:24
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Virgin ATR grounded in Albury

Interesting article by Ben Sandilands on Crikey:


Virgin Australia's leg breaker flight under double inquiry | Plane Talking


Anyone know what the story is?
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 12:20
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Exclamation padlock please

I don't think that it is advantageous to run two threads on this. Let's stick with http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...akes-vara.html
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 21:55
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Story I heard on the ground at Albury is that the tail of the aircaft was badly bent in the encounter with turbulence.
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 22:20
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My sources have told me that yes indeed the damage is much worse than was first thought. Of concern is how the aircraft could operate all those sectors post incident, without any damage detected?
The investigation by the ATSB and the actions of CASA yet again point to a pair of organisations that simply refuse to act in a transparent manner, but instead scramble to protect the 'big end of town'. This incident has the potential to turn into yet another complete clusterf#ck to add to the ATSB and CASA history pages. They just don't get it do they?
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 23:57
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VARA certainly aren't the big end of town and have been on shaky terms with our Canberra overlords for sometime now.

Not too sure what CASA could come out and immediately do - personally a bit of the ol' Tiger treatment would have been good to see, just to show that CASA weren't bullying Tiger a few years ago and they are trying to be consistent... But you're probably right, that big red virgin on the fin makes those decisions very hard to make.
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 08:35
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"CASA weren't bullying Tiger a few years ago"
Of course they were!!!
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 10:24
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You are right, the Virgin tail gets them across the line. No doubt people at CASA also have some association at Virgin.

If the tail was striped it would have been grounded quite some time ago...
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 11:20
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"CASA weren't bullying Tiger a few years ago"
Of course they were!!!
And I thought Tiger were trying to bully some terrain... With an A320.
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Old 20th Apr 2014, 02:46
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Is there any photos?
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Old 20th Apr 2014, 03:10
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E_A, yes mate, there are some photos. However they are under lock and key due to the sensitivity of the subject. Doing my best to source one or two, if I succeed I will post them.
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Old 20th Apr 2014, 06:41
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004 (welcome back BTW) you might need to have a chat to Para377 who also seems to have sources about the extent of the damage.
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Old 20th Apr 2014, 07:46
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Lookyloo, thanks for the warm welcome I missed you also. I would say para377 has a different source to myself, perhaps you can make your own contact, I'm not overly interested, but thanks anyway.
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Old 20th Apr 2014, 07:53
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How are CASA and the ATSB hiding things? I didn't realise they were the ones obligated to tell the press every time there was an accident or incident? Once the report is finalised, yes, but not during the initial investigation. I'd say they are probably doing their job properly behind the scenes - just because you, the pruner, doesn't know about it doesn't mean it's being handled poorly.

Which organisation handles the ATR's engineering in SYD?
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Old 21st Apr 2014, 03:14
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Cheers for the possible photo post.
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Old 21st Apr 2014, 06:11
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It wasn't turbulence....
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Old 21st Apr 2014, 06:36
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In this day and age, why is more info not forthcoming? The apparent secrecy surrounding these circumstances only serves to encourage discussion of a cover up. Methinks somebody porked it up, big time!
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Old 21st Apr 2014, 06:40
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^^^One needs to be careful in this day and age. Comments on public forums could get you the sack. I too, have seen photos and it is not pretty.
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Old 21st Apr 2014, 12:01
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This article has a photo of the aircraft in the hangar, but taken some distance away.

http://transform.fairfaxregional.com...h678_fcrop.jpg
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Old 21st Apr 2014, 12:45
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No leading edge on the horizontal in the pic...
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Old 21st Apr 2014, 23:44
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i dare say that would have been removed for inspection purposes TBM.....

The issue here is very much who did the post- overstress inspection and why wasnt the tail damage picked up then.
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