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Old 1st Mar 2014, 04:09
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I reckon the 747 won in this round, looks like it managed to even take a bit of the 380 with it in the chompers there!
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 04:30
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May be a naïve question, but doesn't insurance cover this sort of hiccup?

Insurance will cover any cost of repair over and above the excess/deductible. QF insurers will then fight it out with the handling company's insurers if the handlers weren't QF. Could add a complication if a QF LAE was supervising.


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I would doubt very much if QF self insure the A380 hulls, the older B747s maybe, it depends what the book value is, the B747 may have been written down to zero or near to it. They certainly won't self insure their third party liabilities, (billions of cover), or their passenger legal liabilities. They may self insure the staff PA scheme and possibly baggage claims but that would be about it.
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 04:53
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The aircraft were and probably still are insured thru JLT (Jardine Lloyd Thomas)

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Old 1st Mar 2014, 05:13
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Is "no habla ingles" on the part of the ground handlers potentially a factor here?
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 06:51
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The ground handling agent will have their own liability insurance which would cover damage caused by them. If, on the other hand (and this parenthetical observation is purely hypothetical) they were acting under the direction or supervision of a QF employee or other party then it can obviously become a lawyer's feeding frenzy.

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Old 1st Mar 2014, 11:09
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Quick fix on 747 VH-OEI - presently operating QF108 due into SYD Sunday morning.
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 11:14
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A few rolls of silver tape and it's all good...


I herd it was Menzies driving, they love hitting ****, like when the virgin a330 ran over the jetstar a330 dude didn't even know until he towed it on line
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 23:00
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The aircraft were and probably still are insured thru JLT (Jardine Lloyd Thomas)

I suspect that JLT are the holding broker in Australia and the bulk of the business will be a re-insurance through the London market.
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Old 2nd Mar 2014, 00:41
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Looks like they have passed their quality assurance in being able to replicate their process, done it again with a 767 and A330 at a different airport.
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Old 2nd Mar 2014, 01:02
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JLT are the brokers in London, it's not placed with JLT in Australia and the insurers are a panel of well known and established aviation insurance companies based in France, the UK and elsewhere in the world. All aircraft if the Qantas fleet are insured and all are subject to an excess. Excess varies according to type. Jet aircraft have what is called Deductible Insurance which lowers the excess to $100,000.

Qantas will claim on their insurers and they in turn will seek recovery from the ground handler's insurers subject to the limitations of the Ground Handling Agreement in place. Lawyers will be involved and it will go on for years.
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Old 2nd Mar 2014, 18:21
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indamiddle quote: "Fantastic timing, an A380 and a 747 had a clash of wing tips at LAX. A380 wing apparently looks it was attacked by a shark, 747 wing tip not flash either. Both flights cancelled. Let the conspiracy theories begin,"

Who cares?!!
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 00:20
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Old mate up in Brisvegas has heard there is a damaged "Qantas Group" A320 hiding in a hangar there. Something to do with ground handling. Rumour or trumour?


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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 00:52
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they get punched all the time by the loaders

im not at work today, but ill find out on tomorrow from eng

so orange star a320 in BNE?
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 01:24
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There's been a 320 nose poking out of Hangar 3 for about 3 days now.

Parked next to a JQ A330.

It did look kinda ironic seeing a QF hangar full of JQ aircraft!
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 05:40
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The 380 will be flying again before most of you have your next bonk!
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 06:04
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Considering its due to land in SYD in approx 1.5hrs, I'd say you are right!
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 03:11
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The a320 in bne was hit by a loader
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 20:20
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Well at least there are plenty of spare A320s floating/sitting around. No doubt bonus's all round for having organised all those hot spares.
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