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Old 14th Dec 2013, 01:17
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All services temporarily suspended...
Beginning of the end??

This posted on the Brindabella Airlines Website:


BRINDABELLA AIRLINES - TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF SERVICES

Brindabella Airlines regret to advise that it will temporarily suspend operations with immediate effect. In the interim Brindabella Airlines will not accept any further reservations and all services have been cancelled until further notice.
Brindabella Airlines sincerely regret the concern and inconvenience this action will cause to its customers.
Further updates will be provided on the news section of this website on Sunday 15th December 2013 at 4pm
CANBERRA 1300HRS SATURDAY 14 DECEMBER 2013
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Old 14th Dec 2013, 01:32
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What's going to happen to the SY - MOR service is QLINK going to resume the service again?


Not sure why they were taken off it in the first place.
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Old 14th Dec 2013, 02:45
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Very sad day indeed. This has been coming for a while now. I'm surprised they lasted this long. No surprises with the CEO and CCO fleeing the country - Snakes the both of them. Wouldn't trust a word that came out of either of their mouths. Anyone looted the office in CBR yet?
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Old 14th Dec 2013, 02:51
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Where is CASAs consistency??

I know of a turboprop operator over here who deserves to be shut down for maintenance indiscretions, and CASA are aware of them.
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Old 14th Dec 2013, 02:53
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Why would Skytrans hire those crews. The routes out of Brisbane are problematic in money making terms . A dash 8 is not cheaper to run than a J41.
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Old 14th Dec 2013, 04:38
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From the Sydney Morning Herald:


There are fears regional NSW carrier Brindabella Airlines could be in a precarious financial position now that eight of its 10 aircraft are grounded by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) for maintenance reviews.
Commonwealth Bank of Australia has a fixed and floating charge over the airline's assets and forensic accounting firm KordaMentha is understood to be closely monitoring the situation.
Brindabella has licences to operate as the monopoly carrier on key regional NSW routes providing services between Sydney and the towns of Cobar, Moree, Mudgee, Narrabri and winter-only services to Cooma.
The Canberra-based airline's owners, Business Air Holdings, have not lodged accounts with the corporate regulator in recent years.
Qantas Airways last month revoked a codeshare with Brindabella after CASA initially grounded four of its Jetsream planes because engine inspections were overdue. Two of those aircraft are now back in service, but CASA on Thursday grounded a further six Jetstream and Metroliner planes.
Transport for NSW said it was working on alternative transport arrangements for communities impacted by action taken by CASA including additional NSW TrainLink coach services between affected communities and other regional airports.
"[The CASA] action is likely to have significant impact on the airline's schedule on licensed routes," a Transport for NSW spokeswoman said on Friday.
She said Transport for NSW had formally requested Brindabella address concerns surrounding the provision of air services as outlined in its air licence.
Brindabella on Friday said the additional inspections ordered by CASA would "undoubtedly result in some disruption" in its network.
"Brindabella look forward to restoring scheduled services very shortly and apologise to any of its loyal customers who may have been affected," the airline said.
It added flights scheduled to operate on Friday and over the weekend had not been affected. The airline has cancelled dozens of flights in recent weeks and temporarily suspended its services between Sydney and Orange, which is not a monopoly route.


Read more: Planes grounded: fears for Brindabella Air

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Old 14th Dec 2013, 08:47
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Twobags....... Is your info accurate and are you positive about that?!?
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Old 14th Dec 2013, 14:22
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'Tis done-

A notice on the Brindabella website reads:
Brindabella Airlines regret to advise that it will temporarily suspend operations with immediate effect. In the interim Brindabella Airlines will not accept any further reservations and all services have been cancelled until further notice.

Brindabella Airlines sincerely regret the concern and inconvenience this action will cause to its customers.

Further updates will be provided on the news section of this website on 15th December 2013 at 4pm.

Flights from/to Sydney Airport, Newcastle Airport & Brisbane Airport from/to Camberra, Newcastle, Tamworth, Cobar, Orange, Moree, Mudgee, Narrabri, Snowy Mountains, Coffs Harbour by Brindabella Airlines
Damn shame it took a historic company like "The Duck" with it.
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Old 14th Dec 2013, 22:09
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Very sorry for the staff, I know a few that have been through this before.

I understand that as recently as a month ago they still had lifelines available to them, however the Pommie owners/managers were either too ignorant to know they were drowning or too arrogant to take the options.

Interesting article in the SMH from 10 July 1981

The Sydney Morning Herald - Google News Archive Search

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Old 15th Dec 2013, 01:24
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Interesting article in the SMH from 10 July 1981

Nothing has changed except the regulator and airports have created an even worse environment. We now have another two airline policy...
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 05:28
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BRINDABELLA AIRLINES RECEIVERS AND MANAGERS


BRINDABELLA AIRLINES RECEIVERS AND MANAGERS

David Winterbottom and Sebastian Hams of KordaMentha were today appointed Receivers and Managers of the Canberra-based regional airline Brindabella. The group consists of five companies including Brindabella Airlines Pty Ltd, Aeropelican Air Services Pty Ltd, M/V Purchasing Company Pty Ltd, Business Air Holdings Pty Ltd and Trand Holdings Pty Ltd (‘Brindabella’) (‘the Group’). This follows the Group’s decision yesterday to ground all aircraft not already grounded by the recent CASA directive and to cease all passenger flights.
Mr Winterbottom advised that Brindabella would no longer be accepting bookings, and all further flights will be suspended indefinitely. Mr Winterbottom also indicated the Receivers would be calling for immediate expressions of interest in the sale of the business, however the business would not continue to operate whilst the sale process is conducted.
Mr Winterbottom said that Qantas had commenced providing additional services on some of Brindabella’s usual routes and the Receivers were in urgent discussions with the NSW Government and regulatory authorities regarding sourcing other replacement services.
Mr Winterbottom added: “Given the approaching Christmas and New Year period we will be working very hard to minimise the inconvenience to customers and importantly, enable alternative travel options.” Brindabella, formed in 1994, operated up to 250 sectors a week, with services from Canberra, Sydney and Brisbane to regional destinations including Newcastle, Cobar, Coffs Harbour, Moree, Mudgee, Narrabri, Newcastle, Orange and Tamworth.
It has 140 employees and operates five US-built Metroliners and seven British-built Jetstreams. Recently Brindabella have experienced significant maintenance and regulatory issues which have impacted aircraft availability and services.
Brindabella Airlines senior management are working with KordaMentha and are assisting with any requests made of them.
Mr Winterbottom said it was too early to predict the ultimate future of Brindabella or to be precise about the reasons for the Group’s problems, however the competitive nature of the airline industry, regulatory and maintenance issues and the financial pressures this would have placed on the airline would certainly be significant factors.
Brindabella customers can find more information in the creditor section of Home, including contact numbers for further enquiries.
end_of_the_skype
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 05:32
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...and in come the receivers.

Vale Brindabella.
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 05:33
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No press conference at 4pm today as advised yesterday...
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 07:41
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Be interesting to see if the usual suspects blame CASA for this mess!!!
Anybody with any aviation business nouse could see this one coming for a while.
For once, I'd like to see either real businessmen or management with relevant experience operate an aviation business, not circus clowns!
Horatio LB..... handing over!
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 08:29
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Isn't it ironic that Korda Mentha get a second bite of the cherry with Aeroduck.

So sad indeed, all the good honest crew and guys at the duck slogged their guts
out to get it back up and running after the Ansett collapse.

You must be all gutted tonight.

Have a beer and be proud of what you all achieved.
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 08:30
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Brindy now officially in receivership

Announced today. This Canberra Times link gives a summary:
Brindabella Airlines put into receivership - flights suspended


The receiver is calling for expressions of interest to purchase the airline.

Staff will be advised of their fate on Monday.

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Old 15th Dec 2013, 17:59
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CASA.... Something to answer for? I doubt it very much. This was the result of a long chain of events that was set in motion in 2010 when Aeropelican was restructured with a new puppeteer and a whole new ensemble of marionettes were parachuted into the non-flying upper management roles.

They retained a couple of high calibre C+T staff and a good core of experienced crews but the rot began to creep in with perceived secrecy and a number of people elevated well beyond their competence level who actively cultivated a "them and us" attitude as it was to their liking and purpose. Had a bad feeling about the way it was being run right from the beginning after the great pineappling of 2010…

BAH then bought into Brindabella and transplanted said marionettes. Continual speculation after we were told of the merged workforce as to what the future might hold for the stable Newcastle employee group was never adequately addressed apart from "trust us, she'll be right..." The drop in pay (and a big question mark over the bond) to fly a larger type was, for some (including myself) unpalatable.

Jeff, I think history will show he was firmly pushed by a non-sympathetic business "partnership"...

... if (IF) the BBA engineering process is anything like their operating practices, it's no wonder things are 'confused'. The severely CASA influenced SOP make a meal of the simplest routine procedures, the PIC almost needing permission in triplicate to turn on the bloody wipers...
Rubbish. The Metro SOPs (I never flew the J41) were stringent and a little complex when I started with them, but were soon whittled down to where they needed to be. Like you Kharon I have also operated metros for other operators and the Brindy SOPs were in no way greatly differing to any other operator and IMHO were actually quite a step above some, especially as many of the F/Os that joined on the metro were flying their first pressurised multi turbine "multi crew" SOPs with that company. The way the FCOM suite was put together made it less of a saga to get a highly polished performance out of a relative new hire as long as they read the book....

The Brindy CP was always there and available if anyone had an issue that needed his input and is one person in this industry I am grateful I have worked for, along with Jeff, Lara and most of the old Brindys crews and at the good folk at the Duck: Paul, Em, Brian, Waz etc etc.

Raider, staff have been told to return all company owned gear already. Meetings with recievers today.
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 20:25
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Ho hum – (stifle yawn).

ON – "Rubbish. The Metro SOPs (I never flew the J41) were stringent and a little complex when I started with them, but were soon whittled down to where they needed to be".
No offence meant, just stirring the pot. I am pleased to hear you claim that good sense eventually prevailed– I was working with old data and simply wished to make the point that overly complex, rigid management systems can make a good starting place for unintended holes in the cheese.

ON –"Like you Kharon I have also operated metros for other operators and the Brindy SOPs were in no way greatly differing to any other operator and IMHO were actually quite a step above some," etc.
I beg to differ, however this is not the place for debate on semantic, pedantic SOP or the lack thereof:- nor the endless regurgitation of the AFM within the FCOM, rendering both nugatory. I will not to mention expanded procedure being used as operating 'law', rather than a part of training to reduce workload. The methodology for cooking engines, bogging and un-bogging aircraft is for each flight ops department to determine. This, whether the 'experienced' crews think (or realise) it's all bollocks – or not, is immaterial to the discussion here.

We don't know when the maintenance issues were first noted.

We don't know what the maintenance issues were.

We don't know who was notified of what, when or by whom.

Were these issues an AD or series of AD which went through to the keeper?, were they different multiple issues related to individual airframes? We may never know, and I dare say irrelevant now.

Many times been present when 'management' was notified a (singular) error had been discovered; the aircraft grounded until maintenance was complete, aircraft returned to service. I have even been there when the CASA Airworthiness boys were informed of the error (singular) and provided the 'fix' and root cause had been correctly identified and the system modified to prevent a possible reoccurrence, there never was any insurmountable problems raised from the CASA end. In fact they were a positive element on all those occasions, as helpful, sensible and practical as one could expect of a 'good' regulator.

At face value, this appears to have been a somewhat larger problem, i.e. chronic, across a fleet and all that entails. At the moment it is only one curiosity that that CASA appears to have allowed an extended 'period of grace'; but without facts, who dare comment. All too easy to say 'protected species', or 'management stuff up', but once again without facts it's pure speculative bollocks.

So, how about some data, rather than management (or CASA bashing) to work with. Who knows, perhaps there may be something learned from the history of this past event.

No hope – right. – Yawn - exit discussion without looking back.
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 22:06
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so who will fill Brindabella void ?

suspect some routes are apparently so low yielding that no one will even bother looking at them.
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Old 15th Dec 2013, 22:36
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I note that qlink have stated that they will step in and offer discounted fares to help out stranded pax as much as they can
I spose VB will as well. I mean, they reckon they want to be the airline that people turn to in times of need......waiting for the announcement .. Waiting..
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