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Going Nowhere 17th Nov 2013 04:44

Problems at Brindabella?
 
Brindabella Airlines grounds planes for 'maintenance review' | News.com.au

Looks like quite a few of their planes have been out of service well before Friday

Fieldmouse 17th Nov 2013 05:09

Qantaslink has stepped in with 200's
 
on a couple of routes they codeshare, just to keep the punters happy.
I've heard the companies issues aren't all maintenance related either.
Fingers crossed they get it sorted quickly.

musicalaviator 17th Nov 2013 06:02

4 planes.

Sounds like the Jetstream 4100 fleet.

I'd reccon the Metro III and JS31 fleet are still running.

Going Nowhere 17th Nov 2013 06:10

VH-OTD ? FlightAware - Hasn't flown since 5/11
VH-OTE ? FlightAware - Hasn't flown since 7/11

OpsNormal 17th Nov 2013 19:09

And one of their Metros is sitting in Domestic 5 in Sydney with no tail feathers courtesy of a catering truck, next to one of the grounded JS32s (which has just had an engine change). I hear Fort Fumble have chucked a few extra conditions onto the 32's engine change before they will be happy....

Hope you good Brindy folk currently sidelined can get back into the air soon.

DutyofCare 17th Nov 2013 21:16

Who will do the TW run 1st ???
 
Gee Jeff, look what happens when you leave !!!
I think Gus had to act after so many engineering stuffups.
I think the only a/c flying is the 1s they are soon to scrap ???
Who will be the 1st to replace Brindys #1 route: the BN-TW run ?
Will it be Q or V ?
With the busiest month coming up in JAN ( due to the TW music fest ), I'm sure all the paperwork will be on CASAs table this morning !!!
The interesting thing will be crewing with Q & V: both of their recruiting systems have failed successfully & so much $/efforts has been cast to the breeze.
I'm thinking Q will be trying very hard for this high yielding run as their about to loose 20 odd return flts/week to Moranbah from BN next yr.
The other interesting thing is will CASA approve Q to the run after so many Q400 tailstrikes ???
Hmmm...

noclue 17th Nov 2013 21:42

Was Brisbane Tamworth a code share flight with Q??
If so wouldn't it make sense then that the Q keep that service running?..
It's a port they already operate into (from Syd).

Moranbah might be slowing, (had too many flights in the first place IMHO) Miles is about to start up though. Gas 'mines' seem to be growing, where as the growth we were seeing in coal has plateaued.

Too many?? I doubt your in a position to make that judgement, let alone publicly.

Going Nowhere 17th Nov 2013 22:42

DofC


The other interesting thing is will CASA approve Q to the run after so many Q400 tailstrikes ???
What's that got to do with TMW? For the record, QLink have had 1 tailstrike in the Q400 and up until that point were just about the only Q400 operator in the world not to have had one, which given the size of the fleet and the amount of sectors they fly isn't too bad.

Axe to grind? Sour grapes? Got the thanks but no thanks email?
Hmmm... :E

DutyofCare 18th Nov 2013 03:23

Correction
 
For the record, QLink have had 1 tailstrike in the Q400 and up until that point were just about the only Q400 operator in the world not to have had one, which given the size of the fleet and the amount of sectors they fly isn't too bad.

Sorry, that's just wrong !

Why the new SOP to push forward on the yokes by the NFP ???
The Dept are all over this issue with Q, not to mention the amount of $ spent on extra engineering inspections.
No axe to grind here...

Going Nowhere 18th Nov 2013 04:38

Pushing forward on the yoke? Must've missed that FOAB... :confused:

NowThatsFunny 18th Nov 2013 07:57

"The ATSB annotated while there have been many tail strikes of DH8Ds around the planet partly with substantial damage, this was the first encounter in Australia."

I guess all of the other tail strikes DofC is talking about must have been in PNG???:ok:

Waghi Warrior 18th Nov 2013 08:22

Q400 tail strikes in PNG???? Interesting statement, can you substantiate with operators involved and locations? :eek:

The Q400 operator in PNG has a good safety track record, second to none actually especially given the environment they operate in..................

Check_Thrust 18th Nov 2013 10:40

Waghi Warrior,

I think NowThatsFunny was having a dig at DutyofCare's statement on tail strikes by saying that because there has only been one in Australia by Qlink that the rest that have supposedly have happened must have ooccurred in PNG on their Cairns - Port Moresby run, not to insinuate that a PNG Q400 operator has been having tail strikes.

NowThatsFunny 19th Nov 2013 07:24

Correct CT. Sorry for the confusion WW.

Perhaps DofC can elaborate on his Sorry, that's just wrong !

Cactusjack 19th Nov 2013 10:25

My concern is this - Almost every time that CAsA is getting lined up for a potential bullet they come out flexing their muscle and usually just happen to ground an airline, issue a 'show cause' or ensure that the heat is deflected off them on to an operator of sorts, by showing that they truly are a capital 'R' regulator. I hope this is not the case here?

Horatio Leafblower 19th Nov 2013 21:30

Oh come now Cactus Jack.

Brindabella's media release says they grounded the aircraft themselves and advised CASA that they had done so.

Hi LDL-Low HDL 20th Nov 2013 10:30

A few Rumours:

The previous owner of Brindy is stil owed a significant sum, and there is a significant amount of maintenance outstanding on his Metros;

There are two J32s pushed against the fence for a lack of Maintenance, or money to complete it;

They are paying cash for fuel at Narrabri;

There is no evidence of a Hot Section Inspection being completed on one of the J32s- 1500 hours overdue - CASA grounding 1.

There are several ADs significantly overflown on the J41s - Groundings 2 and 3.

None of the Ground Handlers have been paid.

It is a pity that the ex-Aeropelican commercial management have now done to Brindy's what they first did to Aeropelican, and were aparrently doing to each other all along :=

falconx 20th Nov 2013 10:55

All those are true and correct!

Horatio Leafblower 30th Nov 2013 19:38

Max Hazelton's take on Brindy
 
Brindabella will fly away from Orange forever: Hazelton | Central Western Daily

It seems that Orange, much like NBR & MDG & MOR, have hsd enough of the product offered. Pelican had the same person running "yield management" as they had running customer service. This is the result.

Have we heard the pitter patter of little Ducs yet?

megle2 1st Dec 2013 00:52

This all sounds pretty serious to me
Are Casa being gentle with Brinda rather than apply the Barrier treatment


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