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What time is it?
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only. (Boz – A tale of two cities).
There are three (in total) Matters of Privilege before the committee. No one knows who or what is involved, clues are hard to find, information even harder. This is unfair of course, the public service has a duty to leak, but, alas, not this time. There are a few well founded speculative arguments, my personal choice is the tricky business with the Pel Air inquiry, which drags White and Chambers into the funny coloured light of the MoU, unsigned NCN, the gross insults to Ben Cook and Mal Christie which led to resignation. Couple of bright, highly qualified, skilled, dedicated honourable men cannot tolerate or be associated with an aberration such as CAIR 09/3 and other 'manipulated' documents. If the Senate have uncovered any sort of skulduggery, there'll be hell to pay and ferry fares to find.
ATSB cop a straight right from the Air Force Chief, not entirely a surprise, considering the ATSB 'report'. For an outfit determined not to lay blame, point the bone or take any sort of stand; they have certainly ruffled the RAAF feathers. Makes you wonder though; I mean if they are going to 'come out' and start shouting the odds, they could have picked a slightly less prickly target. Beyond all Reason strikes again.
Then the ATSB appear again, the picture Sarcs posted is priceless. Beaker looks like a Beagle puppy, caught pissing on the mat; the other two with 1000 yard stares, desperately trying to disassociate. Why would you blame them, the chance to escape from the apron strings, do some real work and generate 'factual' reports, which people will appreciate is why these two highly qualified men are in their field. Real investigation, real reports and a chance to use their not inconsiderable skills. Bonus, no Beaker and a chance to work with real agencies, with teeth and muscles.
We have Boyd, doing his policeman at Herne Bay imitation. On his Pat Malone, awaiting his summons to the high table. If the murky Machiavellians have their way, the expression don't take a knife to a gun fight, will take on new significance for Boyd. 5-1 is the expected score line and if the DAS is the 'right stuff' it will be 6-1. We will have to wait (again) to see how much 'management' the miniscule is going to allow in stacking the board. Boyd could of course go see the miniscule, bang on table to wake him up and like Oliver, ask for more. Cup of tea, chocolate Monte, lots of nodding and smiling, warm handshake and out the door a.s.a.p. Once the door is closed, the minders move in and the hypnotic, will sapping whispering begins again.
Last, but by no means least – the CVD tribe – who's woes are set to continue, unabated. Seems McComic is determined to continue his assault on the industry he loathes until the last minute. Driven by only the gods know what and terrified of 'liability' issues (not medical but legal it seems), he continues to use his willing accomplice to present the 'real' issues. The fact that Pooshams tenuous hold on any sort of reputation will be totally destroyed; whichever way it turns out is of no importance to the 49'ers Nemesis. I doubt the PMO can see past his well flattered ego and work this out. Word on the street is some of the McComic acolytes already carry 'show cause' notices and are facing a 'grim' future, banished from the Sleepy Hollow sheltered workshops; perhaps the PMO can join them, maybe they will care about his woes...
Aye; I'd like to think Karma was real and active. Anyone got her number?, someone should ring and tell her there's real work to be done in the sun burnt country, lots of it.
Selah.
Whistles up dogs and happily goes vermin hunting. Bats in the belfry, rats in the barn and bloody rabbits – everywhere..._._
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Side profile of the miniscule.
Kharon:
Also spoilt for choice on your post "K"...
Hmm..but let us start with the miniscule's recent OBs.
Warning: The following pic may cause unpredictable, adverse, physical and/or psychological side effects.
Sometimes (much like the photo of Beaker and his boys
) a picture is worth a thousand words...
Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss this week. Source: Getty Images
Despite the fact that the miniscule has been sighted this week upright (& presumably with a pulse) doesn't he have an uncanny resemblance to Blinky Bill...
This photo accompanied an article from SC at the Oz, which more than proves that not only does the DPM have a pulse but he is also very much aware of the growing number of Boardroom & aviation elephants in the room..
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So miniscule has a pulse & is aware of the growing number of IOS/aviation elephants in the room - CHECK.
Paragraph 2 of the "K" post on the 'MoP Stakes' perhaps deserves a 'Selleys moment' post on the Senate thread, so I'll flick past para 2. Likewise para 3-5 but para 6 and the despicable FF take/attack on CVD pilots still very much troubles me...
Throughout the history of the Oz aviation regulator, exposure to possible 'liability' has nearly always been the underlying primary concern, under the 'iron ring' this concern has manifested itself to an extreme level of 'liability paranoia' and consequently negatively effects all the decision making processes by FF in their administration & regulation of aviation safety in this country.
However with the Avmed 180 on CVD pilots I think there is an additional element, that was previously merely paid lip service to by the iron ring, that is ICAO compliance.
Incidentally the CVD pilot matter is not the only regulatory issue that CAsA suddenly appears to have had an attack of the ICAO guilt's..
Recent examples can be seen in..the draft of CAAP 235A (Multi-Engine Aeroplane Minimum Runway Width); CAAP 235-2(2) (Child carriage/restraint in aircraft); draft of Manual of Standards Part 61 – Flight Crew Licensing; and perhaps certain sections of the NPRM 1202OS – Fatigue Management for Flight Crew.
Much like the CVD matter the CAsA/media announcements on these policy/regulatory changes almost always starts with the words.."in line with...or alignment of..ICAO"
Example from a couple of days ago:
All passing strange indeed..
..from a regulator who normally couldn't give a rat's arse about being compliant with ICAO (refer the huge list of notified differences H18/14)...
MTF..
ps Surmising..could it be that RED has got wind of a pending friendly visit from ICAO to perhaps review the progress of his much laboured over & beloved SSP (Annex 19)..
Word of advice RED until your FF/ATsB minions understand the concept of 'Just Culture' & are willing to embrace this philosophy, you can write all the flowery words you like in your SSP manual but it will continue to amount to 'Just Words' instead of 'Just Culture'....
It's been a busy week for the IOS, what with one thing and the other. Spoiled for choice – Joyce. Now I know the minuscule is only vaguely aware that we do have aircraft now in Australia also that they are a long way down his list of priorities and apart from winning the Qld elections, time for trivial matters is hard to find. Perhaps some one could check to make sure he still has a pulse then gently waft some paperwork in his direction and get it signed before the medication wears off. He is going to need to stay awake at least long enough to be briefed on the little bombshell ticking away in the Senate.
Hmm..but let us start with the miniscule's recent OBs.Warning: The following pic may cause unpredictable, adverse, physical and/or psychological side effects.
Sometimes (much like the photo of Beaker and his boys
) a picture is worth a thousand words...Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss this week. Source: Getty Images
Despite the fact that the miniscule has been sighted this week upright (& presumably with a pulse) doesn't he have an uncanny resemblance to Blinky Bill...
This photo accompanied an article from SC at the Oz, which more than proves that not only does the DPM have a pulse but he is also very much aware of the growing number of Boardroom & aviation elephants in the room..
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New faces at CASA, Airservices
A SEARCH for a suitable replacement for outgoing Civil Aviation Safety Authority head John McCormick still has “some time to run,’’ according to Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss.
A recruitment company is putting together a short list of candidates for interview by a panel of CASA board members and the head of the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development Mike Mrdak.
Some aviation organisations have been pushing for a total renewal of the CASA board and the recent Aviation Safety Regulatory Review recommended sweeping reforms at the regulator after accusing it of adopting “an across-the-board hardline philosophy’’.
CASA caused a stir recently when it revealed without a formal announcement the that former Brindabella Airlines owner Jeff Boyd had been appointed the authority’s deputy chairman.
Mr Truss said there had been a good response to Mr Boyd’s appointment. “I think the remaining appointments, I’m hoping, will be equally favourably received,’’ he said. “What the previous board perhaps lacked was the practical aviation experience and we’ll be dealing with that in the appointments yet to come.
“But you still need to have *people with the skills to run a large organisation and with the kind of background that’s necessary to ensure that it works properly as a business as well as a regulator.’’
Mr Truss on Friday announced that former Brisbane Airport Corp CFO Tim Rothwell and ex-Australian Rail Track Corp chief ex*ec*utive David Marchant would join the board of Airservices Australia. He also appointed existing board member Tony Matthews, currently chairman of Airservices’ safety committee, as deputy chairman.
A director of the Regional Aviation Association of Australia, Mr Matthews has more than 40 years’ experience in the industry and has worked as a manager and pilot with organisations such as the Royal Flying Doctor Service and Qantas regional airlines. He has been a member of the board since June 2012.
“Mr Mathews’s significant aviation experience makes him well suited to serve as deputy chair building on his important role as the chair of the board’s safety committee,” Mr Truss said.
Mr Rothwell was CFO at Brisbane Airport for almost 20 years before his departure last year and has been on various boards.
Mr Marchant chaired the Rail Industry Safety and Standards Board and was a managing director for Lend Lease Infrastructure Services and director of the *Hunter Valley Coal Chain Co-*ordination Co.
Mr Truss said both Mr Marchant and Mr Rothwell brought extensive expertise in transport, infrastructure investment, fin*ance, governance and risk management to the board.
A SEARCH for a suitable replacement for outgoing Civil Aviation Safety Authority head John McCormick still has “some time to run,’’ according to Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss.
A recruitment company is putting together a short list of candidates for interview by a panel of CASA board members and the head of the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development Mike Mrdak.
Some aviation organisations have been pushing for a total renewal of the CASA board and the recent Aviation Safety Regulatory Review recommended sweeping reforms at the regulator after accusing it of adopting “an across-the-board hardline philosophy’’.
CASA caused a stir recently when it revealed without a formal announcement the that former Brindabella Airlines owner Jeff Boyd had been appointed the authority’s deputy chairman.
Mr Truss said there had been a good response to Mr Boyd’s appointment. “I think the remaining appointments, I’m hoping, will be equally favourably received,’’ he said. “What the previous board perhaps lacked was the practical aviation experience and we’ll be dealing with that in the appointments yet to come.
“But you still need to have *people with the skills to run a large organisation and with the kind of background that’s necessary to ensure that it works properly as a business as well as a regulator.’’
Mr Truss on Friday announced that former Brisbane Airport Corp CFO Tim Rothwell and ex-Australian Rail Track Corp chief ex*ec*utive David Marchant would join the board of Airservices Australia. He also appointed existing board member Tony Matthews, currently chairman of Airservices’ safety committee, as deputy chairman.
A director of the Regional Aviation Association of Australia, Mr Matthews has more than 40 years’ experience in the industry and has worked as a manager and pilot with organisations such as the Royal Flying Doctor Service and Qantas regional airlines. He has been a member of the board since June 2012.
“Mr Mathews’s significant aviation experience makes him well suited to serve as deputy chair building on his important role as the chair of the board’s safety committee,” Mr Truss said.
Mr Rothwell was CFO at Brisbane Airport for almost 20 years before his departure last year and has been on various boards.
Mr Marchant chaired the Rail Industry Safety and Standards Board and was a managing director for Lend Lease Infrastructure Services and director of the *Hunter Valley Coal Chain Co-*ordination Co.
Mr Truss said both Mr Marchant and Mr Rothwell brought extensive expertise in transport, infrastructure investment, fin*ance, governance and risk management to the board.
Paragraph 2 of the "K" post on the 'MoP Stakes' perhaps deserves a 'Selleys moment' post on the Senate thread, so I'll flick past para 2. Likewise para 3-5 but para 6 and the despicable FF take/attack on CVD pilots still very much troubles me...
Throughout the history of the Oz aviation regulator, exposure to possible 'liability' has nearly always been the underlying primary concern, under the 'iron ring' this concern has manifested itself to an extreme level of 'liability paranoia' and consequently negatively effects all the decision making processes by FF in their administration & regulation of aviation safety in this country.
However with the Avmed 180 on CVD pilots I think there is an additional element, that was previously merely paid lip service to by the iron ring, that is ICAO compliance.
Incidentally the CVD pilot matter is not the only regulatory issue that CAsA suddenly appears to have had an attack of the ICAO guilt's..
Recent examples can be seen in..the draft of CAAP 235A (Multi-Engine Aeroplane Minimum Runway Width); CAAP 235-2(2) (Child carriage/restraint in aircraft); draft of Manual of Standards Part 61 – Flight Crew Licensing; and perhaps certain sections of the NPRM 1202OS – Fatigue Management for Flight Crew.Much like the CVD matter the CAsA/media announcements on these policy/regulatory changes almost always starts with the words.."in line with...or alignment of..ICAO"
Example from a couple of days ago:
...Australia Brings Helicopter Landing Site Guidance in Line with ICAO
Jul 21, 2014 - 15:39 GMT
Australia has released new guidance material on helicopter landing sites as part of its efforts to bring standards in line with those of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). The new guidance material is also designed to help helicopter operators transition to new Australian regulations that are under development as part of the country’s lengthy regulatory reform…
...New guidance material from CASA on helicopter landing sites has been released as part of a transition to new regulations and alignment of Australian standards with those of ICAO. The new material encourages the adoption of the new standards in new landing site construction but does not require upgrade of existing helicopter facilities...
Jul 21, 2014 - 15:39 GMT
Australia has released new guidance material on helicopter landing sites as part of its efforts to bring standards in line with those of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). The new guidance material is also designed to help helicopter operators transition to new Australian regulations that are under development as part of the country’s lengthy regulatory reform…
...New guidance material from CASA on helicopter landing sites has been released as part of a transition to new regulations and alignment of Australian standards with those of ICAO. The new material encourages the adoption of the new standards in new landing site construction but does not require upgrade of existing helicopter facilities...
..from a regulator who normally couldn't give a rat's arse about being compliant with ICAO (refer the huge list of notified differences H18/14)...MTF..
ps Surmising..could it be that RED has got wind of a pending friendly visit from ICAO to perhaps review the progress of his much laboured over & beloved SSP (Annex 19)..
Word of advice RED until your FF/ATsB minions understand the concept of 'Just Culture' & are willing to embrace this philosophy, you can write all the flowery words you like in your SSP manual but it will continue to amount to 'Just Words' instead of 'Just Culture'....
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sarcs this is all total codswallop.
if these people really bring so much experience to the board why don't we ever see any evidence of it?
why are CAsA so perpetually stupid that the only safe flying option is to ignore all their waffle and get on with it.
if CAsA and the ATSB ceased to exist tomorrow for at least 6 months would anyone notice?
it is like the airfields in england with control towers that aren't manned on sundays. more flying occurs on sundays than the entire rest of the week.
as the chinese say, the mountains are high and the mandarin is a long way beyond them.
(meaning that they ignore his overbearing presence totally)
to think that Truss is so stupid that he actually thinks that the current direction CAsA is taking is actually desired.
What a fckuwit you are Truss. you've blown 300,000,000 dollars so far. how much more can the country afford?
if these people really bring so much experience to the board why don't we ever see any evidence of it?
why are CAsA so perpetually stupid that the only safe flying option is to ignore all their waffle and get on with it.
if CAsA and the ATSB ceased to exist tomorrow for at least 6 months would anyone notice?
it is like the airfields in england with control towers that aren't manned on sundays. more flying occurs on sundays than the entire rest of the week.
as the chinese say, the mountains are high and the mandarin is a long way beyond them.
(meaning that they ignore his overbearing presence totally)
to think that Truss is so stupid that he actually thinks that the current direction CAsA is taking is actually desired.
What a fckuwit you are Truss. you've blown 300,000,000 dollars so far. how much more can the country afford?
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A SEARCH for a suitable replacement for outgoing Civil Aviation Safety Authority head John McCormick still has “some time to run,’’ according to Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss.
A recruitment company is putting together a short list of candidates for interview by a panel of CASA board members and the head of the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development Mike Mrdak.
A recruitment company is putting together a short list of candidates for interview by a panel of CASA board members and the head of the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development Mike Mrdak.
Anybody know when the senators get their Mops heard? Could just cause some ripples. Need to get beer and popcorn.
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Who's up who, and who's paying.
HMHB "Hard to believe this is taking so long. Were they expecting an internal candidate to get the gig? Thought it was a 5 year appointment expiring August?
The selectors really do need to get it right, because if the lid comes off when the FAA or ICAO are paying attention and the world is very focussed on matters of aeronautical safety – things can go pear shaped very quickly. That you can bet on and this gummermint doesn't need that level of aggravation, noise and publicity. What price Qantas then, Australia relegated to ICAO Cat 2?, and ICAO do need a scalp or two right now, being very sensitive to public comment on their past ancestry, present value and future worth. Now that is a big apple cart to upset.
No, there may be a desire for an internal acolyte; but that can't happen. No amount of posturing, pressing the flesh and posing as qualified at RAS gatherings and other notable events can protect those who need it from a public thrashing. The bad apples have been clearly identified and if the new DAS won't throw them out then it becomes a matter for the consumer to deal with. Tick tock – indeed...
This is not an easy fix, both the Senate and miniscule's report confirm this. A band aid and an aspirin is no solution where major surgery is required, just won't do. From the heady heights of the board room, to the junior FOI visiting the smallest flight school, things must be seen to change, for the better.
By the by – Thursday 14 or Friday 15 for DAS announcement is heavily backed. Time is running short and needs must, when the devil drives.
Toot toot.
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Ferryman;
'K', could very well be. I haven't heard any internal talk about the announcement date, but a whisper coming out of the corridors is that they may announce a temporary internal DAS while they continue finalising the search and appointment of the new Kahuna. The Gov'mints issue apparently is that all three DAS's roles, the CAsA structure, and the Board are complete ****e. A lot more than the replacement of one DAS is required, so the Miniscule has much to do and his very robust supply of turd polish seems to have run very dry.
Tick tock
By the by – Thursday 14 or Friday 15 for DAS announcement is heavily backed. Time is running short and needs must, when the devil drives.
Tick tock
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"Is it just me – or does Truss look like Blinky Bill in that photo"
"I think the Miniscule looks more like a scrub turkey...gobble gobble"
Na Kharon & 004, look at the prominent eyebrows, the sloping back forehead, no neck, no chin...a few thousand years, some archaeologist digging up an ancient graveyard will conclude that Neanderthals lived amongst us!! we probably bred with them!!...Oh good grief..and people wonder why he's thick!! its in the genes!!
"I think the Miniscule looks more like a scrub turkey...gobble gobble"
Na Kharon & 004, look at the prominent eyebrows, the sloping back forehead, no neck, no chin...a few thousand years, some archaeologist digging up an ancient graveyard will conclude that Neanderthals lived amongst us!! we probably bred with them!!...Oh good grief..and people wonder why he's thick!! its in the genes!!
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A SEARCH for a suitable replacement for outgoing Civil Aviation Safety Authority head John McCormick still has “some time to run,’’ according to Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss. A recruitment company is putting together a short list of candidates for interview by a panel of CASA board members and the head of the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development Mike Mrdak.
And after the short list is ratified and internal interviews are undertaken, who will be on the internal selection panel? This guy perhaps;
http://au.linkedin.com/pub/roger-chambers/9/b7/80b
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Lots of interesting departures in 2010.
Passing strange how bullying and harassment keeps raising its head. Even CVD is looking at harassment.
Whoever becomes the next head of casa those with unsuccessfully resolved issues need to ask for reconsideration.
Passing strange how bullying and harassment keeps raising its head. Even CVD is looking at harassment.
Whoever becomes the next head of casa those with unsuccessfully resolved issues need to ask for reconsideration.
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Get on with it; for pities sake.
It's not really an Australian thing, but in the UK, November the fifth is 'Guy Fawkes night'. The fellah was 'not amused' by the delays and prevarication of the government, ran out of patience and thought it would be a fine thing to put a bomb under them; see if he could wake 'em up. (Not accurate but it will suffice).
I wonder how much longer the industry is prepared to be patient with the minuscule; before someone jumps out of the pipe and slippers cupboard; screaming with frustration just to see if they can wake him up. From the very top to the humblest of grass roots the industry is on 'tenterhooks', so many decisions in abeyance just waiting for him to blink. Part 61 is just one major change which needs to be addressed, and quickly. Because if it passes into 'law', as it stands; things are going to get really ugly, very quickly. The rule was written with the intention of doing away with subjective 'dispensation' and to remove the 'whim' of local FOI from the decision process. The way things are only those who are prepared to curry favour can secure a 'dispo' which leaves the whole thing wide open to the potential shout of corruption.
A decision on the WLR must be made – a dynamic industry cannot be held in stasis; everyone desperately wants the reform and the changes it will bring. Truss and his hypnotist know full well that the board and the top three layers of CASA management cannot be allowed to continue as they did when Albo gave McComic 'carte blanche' to become the big R regulator. Albo is, thankfully, along with his mate a thing of history; the minuscule has had more than enough time to sort out a plan, the materials are there so why FFS are we sitting about idle.
We are, normally, a relatively civilised, conservative crowd; Shirley we don't have to resort to the (turn your volume down)
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I wonder how much longer the industry is prepared to be patient with the minuscule; before someone jumps out of the pipe and slippers cupboard; screaming with frustration just to see if they can wake him up. From the very top to the humblest of grass roots the industry is on 'tenterhooks', so many decisions in abeyance just waiting for him to blink. Part 61 is just one major change which needs to be addressed, and quickly. Because if it passes into 'law', as it stands; things are going to get really ugly, very quickly. The rule was written with the intention of doing away with subjective 'dispensation' and to remove the 'whim' of local FOI from the decision process. The way things are only those who are prepared to curry favour can secure a 'dispo' which leaves the whole thing wide open to the potential shout of corruption.
A decision on the WLR must be made – a dynamic industry cannot be held in stasis; everyone desperately wants the reform and the changes it will bring. Truss and his hypnotist know full well that the board and the top three layers of CASA management cannot be allowed to continue as they did when Albo gave McComic 'carte blanche' to become the big R regulator. Albo is, thankfully, along with his mate a thing of history; the minuscule has had more than enough time to sort out a plan, the materials are there so why FFS are we sitting about idle.
We are, normally, a relatively civilised, conservative crowd; Shirley we don't have to resort to the (turn your volume down)
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Recommendation 12.
The Civil Aviation Safety Authority delegates responsibility for the day-to-day operational management of airspace to Airservices Australia, including the designation of air routes, short-term designations of temporary Restricted Areas, and temporary changes to the classification of airspace for operational reasons.
The Civil Aviation Safety Authority delegates responsibility for the day-to-day operational management of airspace to Airservices Australia, including the designation of air routes, short-term designations of temporary Restricted Areas, and temporary changes to the classification of airspace for operational reasons.
Air routes are to assist flight planning and ATC traffic handling, and temporary restricted areas tend to be for such things as police sieges and other short notice emergency situations, which one would think should be handled by ATC as part of their real-time airspace management.
Midnight:
Why should CASA be involved? Simple really, because it creates jobs for CASA staff and management positions for CASA managers.
That includes:
I would have thought however that according to the aerodrome owners, such staff could be better used visiting aerodromes on a regular basis.
Have heard a rumour CASA may not support this recommendation, though why staff in their airspace regulation office in CBR would be involved in the designation of air routes and short term designations of temporary restricted areas I don't know.
That includes:
Executive Manager
Airspace and Aerodrome Regulation Division
Airspace and Aerodrome Regulation Division
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Ask not for whom the bell tolls:
Good catch Midnight – I just wonder if CASA are going to be allowed the freedom to pick and choose what they may or may not accept; without questions being asked and serious explanations being given. McComic and his crew have pretty much destroyed CASA credibility along with the self perpetuated myth of never being able to be challenged.
For airspace, Greg Hood is a very able man and more than capable of sorting out the 'airspace' issues, even the vexed military controlled airspace questions. Should he and his military counterpart sit down to an an open, honest dialogue, practical, sensible solutions could be found; unhindered by 'expert' opinion from the Sleepy Hollow sheltered workshop that is.
What CASA can't seem to accept is that major change is demanded and industry expects those changes; but the concept is alien to them. They have become very used to, and good at ignoring the likes of coroners, ATSB, FAA and ICAO; but this time the step from the sublime to ridiculous trod on a lot of toes. Since Pel Air and the Forsyth report, the way in which government perceive CASA, particularly in the Senate has changed. Make no mistake – the winds of change are indeed heading towards the ivory tower, like it or not.
In short, perhaps CASA will no longer be able to thumb their nose at industry, Senate and the recommendations of 'other' organisations; not with impunity anyway. CASA have, by a fair minded, impartial jury of peers been weighed, measured and definitely been found wanting. Speculating, but I reckon the Rev. Forsyth wisely allowed to overseas guru's enough latitude to form their own opinions; without his input. Their considered, expert opinion fully justified the Senate findings on the Pel Air ditching. CASA~have arrogantly been the architects of their own demise and must now attempt to be reconciled with industry as the WLR demands.
The only area of concern is Truss, but as an astute politician, one could reasonably expect him to follow the wishes of the majority. We pay, in one way or another, a lot of money for the service CASA provides to industry; it is perhaps time CASA learned that lesson; once and for all. Staring with the DAS and finishing with some of the purblind fools let loose to dictate terms to industry experts, before someone else gets hurt attempting to follow their amateurish vision of how to get the job done.
Come on Warren, get on with it. The sky won't fall in; honest, it won't....
For airspace, Greg Hood is a very able man and more than capable of sorting out the 'airspace' issues, even the vexed military controlled airspace questions. Should he and his military counterpart sit down to an an open, honest dialogue, practical, sensible solutions could be found; unhindered by 'expert' opinion from the Sleepy Hollow sheltered workshop that is.
What CASA can't seem to accept is that major change is demanded and industry expects those changes; but the concept is alien to them. They have become very used to, and good at ignoring the likes of coroners, ATSB, FAA and ICAO; but this time the step from the sublime to ridiculous trod on a lot of toes. Since Pel Air and the Forsyth report, the way in which government perceive CASA, particularly in the Senate has changed. Make no mistake – the winds of change are indeed heading towards the ivory tower, like it or not.
In short, perhaps CASA will no longer be able to thumb their nose at industry, Senate and the recommendations of 'other' organisations; not with impunity anyway. CASA have, by a fair minded, impartial jury of peers been weighed, measured and definitely been found wanting. Speculating, but I reckon the Rev. Forsyth wisely allowed to overseas guru's enough latitude to form their own opinions; without his input. Their considered, expert opinion fully justified the Senate findings on the Pel Air ditching. CASA~have arrogantly been the architects of their own demise and must now attempt to be reconciled with industry as the WLR demands.
The only area of concern is Truss, but as an astute politician, one could reasonably expect him to follow the wishes of the majority. We pay, in one way or another, a lot of money for the service CASA provides to industry; it is perhaps time CASA learned that lesson; once and for all. Staring with the DAS and finishing with some of the purblind fools let loose to dictate terms to industry experts, before someone else gets hurt attempting to follow their amateurish vision of how to get the job done.
Come on Warren, get on with it. The sky won't fall in; honest, it won't....
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Kharon, you forget the old saw:
I feel that Truss may fall for this tactic delivered by Mr. Mrdak. However unless heads roll, nothing can change.
"Minister, this changes everything!"
"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning
to form up into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later
in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing;
and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress
while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization."
to form up into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later
in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing;
and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress
while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization."
"Minister, this changes everything!"
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A recruitment company is putting together a short list of candidates for interview by a panel of CASA board members and the head of the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development Mike Mrdak
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Strainer - Would this be the same recruitment company that gave us McComic? FFS. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
RED: "Miniscule the elephants are multiplying!"
While we continue to wait for the miniscule to blink the elephants in the room are happily putting on weight and some are reaching the end of a lengthy gestation period and about to multiply...
Recent arrivals to the miniscule elephant herd...
ATC/Defence elephant update: Apparently VIPA have made a donation to the feeding of this elephant, not that it was needed as this elephant was already off the scales in terms of weight gain:
International war zone overflight elephant: In typical miniscule style this elephant was summarily dismissed as being someone else’s problem:
However after the ICAO/IATA meeting yesterday there are now additional calls from IATA/ICAO for the miniscule to take custody of this fast growing baby Dumbo:
MH17 tragedy 'exposed gap' in safety procedures, admits aviation industry
IATA Chief Tony Tyler again:
Even the TWU is pointing the accusatory finger at the government, the miniscule & his Dept Head RED :
“The ultimate decision on air routes is being made by the airlines themselves,” he said. “And that means cost will always be calculated against risk. Air safety warnings should not be subject to this kind of economic calculation.”
TICK..TOCK miniscule, I mean really "how much can a Koala Bear??"
MTF…
{Side issue on airlines overflying war zones: Contrary to Emirates the Red Rat has decided to continue to overfly Iraq: Qantas to fly where Emirates fears to go, but for how long?
Which kind of places FF in an interesting conundrum after deciding to get involved in the media hype post MH17: Advice on Eastern Ukraine airspace}
Recent arrivals to the miniscule elephant herd...
ATC/Defence elephant update: Apparently VIPA have made a donation to the feeding of this elephant, not that it was needed as this elephant was already off the scales in terms of weight gain:
Virgin pilots call for air traffic control inquiry
One of the unions representing Virgin Australia pilots has called for a government inquiry into Australia’s air traffic control systems.
The Virgin Independent Pilots Association (VIPA) says federal infrastructure minister Warren Truss needs to hold a comprehensive and independent inquiry into the management of Australian airspace.
VIPA executive director Simon O’Hara says the government needed to look at the “extent that we may need to examine one traffic control system for Australian airspace”.
“VIPA is now calling on Minister Truss to review and replace the current ATC system with a new air traffic system which better manages the separation of aircraft in controlled airspace,” O’Hara said in a statement.
An Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) report released in October 2013 found a higher rate of loss of separation (LOS) incidents at airports where air traffic control was administered by military air traffic services (ATS).
“Military ATS were involved in a disproportionate number of loss of separation occurrences involving civilian aircraft in terminal area airspace relative to the amount of traffic they control,” the ATSB report said.
“Military ATS are responsible for about 25 per cent of the aircraft movements in terminal areas, but were involved in 36 per cent of LOS occurrences in terminal areas.”
O’Hara said VIPA was deeply concerned by the report’s findings, which highlighted a number of serious safety issues regarding Australia’s current ATC system.
“Safety is paramount for Australian airline passengers and the government cannot continue sit on this report for any longer,” O’Hara said.
“The Minister must act before it’s too late.”
One of the unions representing Virgin Australia pilots has called for a government inquiry into Australia’s air traffic control systems.
The Virgin Independent Pilots Association (VIPA) says federal infrastructure minister Warren Truss needs to hold a comprehensive and independent inquiry into the management of Australian airspace.
VIPA executive director Simon O’Hara says the government needed to look at the “extent that we may need to examine one traffic control system for Australian airspace”.
“VIPA is now calling on Minister Truss to review and replace the current ATC system with a new air traffic system which better manages the separation of aircraft in controlled airspace,” O’Hara said in a statement.
An Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) report released in October 2013 found a higher rate of loss of separation (LOS) incidents at airports where air traffic control was administered by military air traffic services (ATS).
“Military ATS were involved in a disproportionate number of loss of separation occurrences involving civilian aircraft in terminal area airspace relative to the amount of traffic they control,” the ATSB report said.
“Military ATS are responsible for about 25 per cent of the aircraft movements in terminal areas, but were involved in 36 per cent of LOS occurrences in terminal areas.”
O’Hara said VIPA was deeply concerned by the report’s findings, which highlighted a number of serious safety issues regarding Australia’s current ATC system.
“Safety is paramount for Australian airline passengers and the government cannot continue sit on this report for any longer,” O’Hara said.
“The Minister must act before it’s too late.”
The International Air Transport Association said this week governments needed to take the lead in reviewing how airspace risk assessments were made.
Chief executive Tony Tyler said airlines and governments were partners in supporting global connectivity, with governments and air navigation providers telling airlines the routes they could fly and with what restrictions.
He said airlines complied with that guidance and this was the case with MH17, which had been shot down “in complete violation of international laws, standards and conventions while broadcasting its identity and presence on an open and busy air corridor at an altitude that was deemed to be safe”.
However, Australia has been lukewarm on the FSF call, with Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss saying it is too early to make judgments. Mr Truss said he was not sure there was a lack of information and he believed it would be difficult to put in place rules and laws guaranteeing a greater level of security.
“If there are deficiencies in the current system presumably that will be identified to some extent in the inevitable inquiries that will follow this event,’’ he said.
Chief executive Tony Tyler said airlines and governments were partners in supporting global connectivity, with governments and air navigation providers telling airlines the routes they could fly and with what restrictions.
He said airlines complied with that guidance and this was the case with MH17, which had been shot down “in complete violation of international laws, standards and conventions while broadcasting its identity and presence on an open and busy air corridor at an altitude that was deemed to be safe”.
However, Australia has been lukewarm on the FSF call, with Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss saying it is too early to make judgments. Mr Truss said he was not sure there was a lack of information and he believed it would be difficult to put in place rules and laws guaranteeing a greater level of security.
“If there are deficiencies in the current system presumably that will be identified to some extent in the inevitable inquiries that will follow this event,’’ he said.
MH17 tragedy 'exposed gap' in safety procedures, admits aviation industry
IATA Chief Tony Tyler again:
“This is the responsibility of states,” he said. “There are no excuses. Even sensitive information can be sanitised in a way that ensures airlines get essential and actionable information without compromising methods or sources.”
“This is all far from the authoritative, accurate, consistent, and unequivocal information needed to support effective decisions on such an important issue,” Mr Tyler said. “Governments must do better.”
“This is all far from the authoritative, accurate, consistent, and unequivocal information needed to support effective decisions on such an important issue,” Mr Tyler said. “Governments must do better.”
:
Transport Workers Union national secretary Tony Sheldon, who represents aviation workers, said airlines should reroute flights away from world conflict zones and the government should ensure Australian aircraft complied with global safety warnings.
“The ultimate decision on air routes is being made by the airlines themselves,” he said. “And that means cost will always be calculated against risk. Air safety warnings should not be subject to this kind of economic calculation.”
MTF…
{Side issue on airlines overflying war zones: Contrary to Emirates the Red Rat has decided to continue to overfly Iraq: Qantas to fly where Emirates fears to go, but for how long?
Which kind of places FF in an interesting conundrum after deciding to get involved in the media hype post MH17: Advice on Eastern Ukraine airspace}
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Here is the link to ICAO's release today;
Joint Statement on Risks to Civil Aviation Arising from Conflict Zones
Sarcs, you can be rest assured that Fort Fumble will have a lineup of delegates also attending the next special convening in February 2015. But in the meantime will the Regulator and it's resident airspace executive Herr Cromarty be doing anything of value in relation to the current concerns? What do the Regulatory experts think about QF's decision? Not much I imagine. Even if they thought the Rat was making a bad call they don't have the testicular fortitude to take decisive action. Now, if it was a wayward Helo pilot, that would be different.......
CAsA will, as always, do very little, if anything. As for QF's decision, well that comes as no great shock. However I do wonder what the FAA would think of QF using that parcel of airspace with perhaps dozens of American citizens/tourists/business people/grey nomads onboard?
Tick tock Miniscule, the scene of the world is changing rapidly and you silly old plonkers are still stuck in the 1960's timewarp!
TICK TOCK
Joint Statement on Risks to Civil Aviation Arising from Conflict Zones
Sarcs, you can be rest assured that Fort Fumble will have a lineup of delegates also attending the next special convening in February 2015. But in the meantime will the Regulator and it's resident airspace executive Herr Cromarty be doing anything of value in relation to the current concerns? What do the Regulatory experts think about QF's decision? Not much I imagine. Even if they thought the Rat was making a bad call they don't have the testicular fortitude to take decisive action. Now, if it was a wayward Helo pilot, that would be different.......
CAsA will, as always, do very little, if anything. As for QF's decision, well that comes as no great shock. However I do wonder what the FAA would think of QF using that parcel of airspace with perhaps dozens of American citizens/tourists/business people/grey nomads onboard?
Tick tock Miniscule, the scene of the world is changing rapidly and you silly old plonkers are still stuck in the 1960's timewarp!
TICK TOCK
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Just so stories – Kipling, eat your heart out.
What is it with Transport miniscule's and elephants; that fool Albo let them breed as and where pleased, he even hired an trained expert to assist with process. You'd think Blinky Bill would have got at least some of the mess cleaned up by now.
It's all very well keeping elephants; we are always happy to have the Gobbledocks mighty beast to stay over when he's off on a secret mission for the IOS or Willyleaks; but the mess is appalling and takes some shifting.
It's also very cruel to keep them locked and chained in an office, even one with pot plants; perhaps the IOS should start a campaign to have the gu'ment elephants released after vet examination, that way the public could enjoy the show. I'm sure they would be delighted to see the produce of an intense, carefully managed breeding programme.
There now; nice new page for them as wants it.
Toot toot.-.
It's all very well keeping elephants; we are always happy to have the Gobbledocks mighty beast to stay over when he's off on a secret mission for the IOS or Willyleaks; but the mess is appalling and takes some shifting.
It's also very cruel to keep them locked and chained in an office, even one with pot plants; perhaps the IOS should start a campaign to have the gu'ment elephants released after vet examination, that way the public could enjoy the show. I'm sure they would be delighted to see the produce of an intense, carefully managed breeding programme.
There now; nice new page for them as wants it.
Toot toot.-.
Dougy is early but in the know??
004...
"...Hypothesising as to whether Wodger mentions MH17 during tonight's 'lecture'?.."
Good question perhaps we should ask the panel facilitator Dougy for an appraisal of Wodgers performance...:
Synopsis: On 19 July 1989 United Airlines Flight 232 experienced loss of all hydraulic systems as a result of the catastrophic failure of the number 2 engine. The crew and a check captain who was a passenger on the aircraft worked together as a team to exert a semblance of control over the aircraft despite not having been trained for the specific event, and subsequently made a somewhat controlled landing at Gateway Airport, Sioux City, Iowa. Despite the loss of 111 passengers and crew, 185 persons survived this event thanks to the teamwork of the crew.
On 1 June 2009, Air France Flight 447 experienced inconsistencies in air speed measurement over the Atlantic Ocean as a result of the pitot tubes being obstructed by ice crystals. The crew reacted incorrectly and ultimately the aircraft entered an aerodynamic stall which was not recovered. Tragically 228 persons lost their lives.
I also noticed that Dougy was early with his weekly insight..
..perhaps it had something to do with the upcoming evening's festivities...
Oh well since Dougy's piece is extremely topical, given the last couple of posts, I've decided to copy (almost) in full (apologies in advance DN have chopped the Airnorth correction and the plug for your mate..):
"The industry watches with great interest and not a little apprehension."
Certainly got that right...
MTF...
"...Hypothesising as to whether Wodger mentions MH17 during tonight's 'lecture'?.."
Good question perhaps we should ask the panel facilitator Dougy for an appraisal of Wodgers performance...
:Panel Discussion at 18:30
“Contemporary Aviation Safety Issues”
“Contemporary Aviation Safety Issues”
Panel facilitated by Doug Nancarrow, Editor Aviation Business
Although I somehow doubt whether MH17 would be at the forefront of Wodger's cranium as he seems to be stuck in the past and currently in the nines..:
:Synopsis: On 19 July 1989 United Airlines Flight 232 experienced loss of all hydraulic systems as a result of the catastrophic failure of the number 2 engine. The crew and a check captain who was a passenger on the aircraft worked together as a team to exert a semblance of control over the aircraft despite not having been trained for the specific event, and subsequently made a somewhat controlled landing at Gateway Airport, Sioux City, Iowa. Despite the loss of 111 passengers and crew, 185 persons survived this event thanks to the teamwork of the crew.
On 1 June 2009, Air France Flight 447 experienced inconsistencies in air speed measurement over the Atlantic Ocean as a result of the pitot tubes being obstructed by ice crystals. The crew reacted incorrectly and ultimately the aircraft entered an aerodynamic stall which was not recovered. Tragically 228 persons lost their lives.
..perhaps it had something to do with the upcoming evening's festivities...Oh well since Dougy's piece is extremely topical, given the last couple of posts, I've decided to copy (almost) in full (apologies in advance DN have chopped the Airnorth correction and the plug for your mate..
):
Editor's Insights 31st July 2014
30 Jul 2014
Doug Nancarrow
Interviews for the Director of Safety position at CASA are being held early next week and I understand there are five candidates. The appointment of the DAS was to be by the CASA board, but that’s not complete yet so it’s likely the Chairman and new Deputy Chairman will be representing the board on the interview panel. And there’s bound to be some Departmental representation. Maybe we can expect a quick decision on this critical appointment. The industry watches with great interest and not a little apprehension.
Media debate about Qantas declaring that it’s safe to fly over Iraq is bordering on the irresponsible. And calls for airlines to make public their flight paths are fair enough but it may be something that’s difficult to deliver. If the public expectation becomes absolute safety then how can that expectation be met? When is a zone of unrest acceptable at 33,000ft and when is it not? If there’s actual armed conflict of any degree? Routes between South East Asia and Europe are going to be hard to find if there’s total exclusion from areas of uncertainty.
I mean where does the need-to-know thing stop if we start to head in this direction? Should the captain’s medical record be made available to the passengers of a particular flight? What about the maintenance records for the aircraft?
We have to maintain a culture of confidence in our airlines so that they are trusted to make decisions in the best interests of all.
The thing that (hopefully) makes the MH17 case unique is the supply of hard-core anti-aircraft weapons by the Russian military (and hence government). Common sense and good judgement need to be utilised in making decisions about safe air routes. Let’s hope that‘s what the current powwow involving ICAO, IATA, CANSO and other groups on this subject takes into account.
We’re taking a thorough look at the regional airline industry in the next print issue of Aviation Business, which will be with you in early September.
Did you realise that 16 regional airlines have gone out of business in the last 10 years? I didn’t until I stopped to count them. That’s a pretty tragic toll and it’s surely worth looking at the state-of-the-nation for that industry sector. If you have a perspective you’d care to share with me I’ll be happy to consider including it in the coming report.
30 Jul 2014
Doug Nancarrow
Interviews for the Director of Safety position at CASA are being held early next week and I understand there are five candidates. The appointment of the DAS was to be by the CASA board, but that’s not complete yet so it’s likely the Chairman and new Deputy Chairman will be representing the board on the interview panel. And there’s bound to be some Departmental representation. Maybe we can expect a quick decision on this critical appointment. The industry watches with great interest and not a little apprehension.
Media debate about Qantas declaring that it’s safe to fly over Iraq is bordering on the irresponsible. And calls for airlines to make public their flight paths are fair enough but it may be something that’s difficult to deliver. If the public expectation becomes absolute safety then how can that expectation be met? When is a zone of unrest acceptable at 33,000ft and when is it not? If there’s actual armed conflict of any degree? Routes between South East Asia and Europe are going to be hard to find if there’s total exclusion from areas of uncertainty.
I mean where does the need-to-know thing stop if we start to head in this direction? Should the captain’s medical record be made available to the passengers of a particular flight? What about the maintenance records for the aircraft?
We have to maintain a culture of confidence in our airlines so that they are trusted to make decisions in the best interests of all.
The thing that (hopefully) makes the MH17 case unique is the supply of hard-core anti-aircraft weapons by the Russian military (and hence government). Common sense and good judgement need to be utilised in making decisions about safe air routes. Let’s hope that‘s what the current powwow involving ICAO, IATA, CANSO and other groups on this subject takes into account.
We’re taking a thorough look at the regional airline industry in the next print issue of Aviation Business, which will be with you in early September.
Did you realise that 16 regional airlines have gone out of business in the last 10 years? I didn’t until I stopped to count them. That’s a pretty tragic toll and it’s surely worth looking at the state-of-the-nation for that industry sector. If you have a perspective you’d care to share with me I’ll be happy to consider including it in the coming report.
Certainly got that right...
MTF...