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QF 9 Loads hemorrhaging

Old 23rd Oct 2013, 23:32
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QF 9 Loads hemorrhaging

The QF 9 is leaving Melbourne with an average of 300 spare seats in economy some days well over that and is less then half full in business and 1st. Is the beginning of the end for this service?

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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 23:34
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Where does QF9 operate to & from?
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 00:16
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In fairness, there are two legs. MEL DXB & DXB LHR.

which is hemorrhaging?

Both presumably code shared with EK.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 00:19
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Why don't you worry about your own role as CSM and stop drawing dramatic conclusions from AHB like the rest of that awful base.
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A friend of mine, a very successful businessman in a non-aviation field, recently asked me what I considered a very good question.

He said if he had started a partnership with someone else in his field, the last thing he would do is move his prime business into his partner's market. Instead he would look to use the partnership to expand, with the joint resources of his partner, into new markets.

His question? Why then does Qantas solely operate to Europe via Emirates Dubai hub, when the Qantas/Emirates partnership already has that market well and truly covered? Why not use their joint resources to expand Australia to various European ports via other markets?

The question arose as he can no longer fly on a Qantas aircraft from Brisbane to Europe; something he used to do almost once/month in 1st Class where available.

The equality of the Qantas/Emirates partnership also rated a mention.

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Old 24th Oct 2013, 01:21
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ah, the 'amazing' transformation continues............
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 01:46
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Why don't you worry about your own role as CSM and stop drawing dramatic conclusions from AHB like the rest of that awful base.
I haven't done the 9 for a while, but I have no reason to doubt the load drop. It doesn't matter what job people have, it doesn't take a lot of grey matter to understand that Qantas would be managed better by a box of fish than the current pile of 'leaders' who seem to look upon Qantas as Michael Williamson saw the HSU.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 03:11
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Originally Posted by A380-800R
The QF 9 is leaving Melbourne with an average of 300 spare seats in economy some days well over that and is less then half full in business and 1st. Is the beginning of the end for this service?
Thanks for the tip!

Nice easy upgrades in there now!!
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 03:39
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BITRE statistics telling a different story

Flew the route with the said carrier last week full across all cabins.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 03:41
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To be fair it is now the quiet season... loads ex Australia will likely stay down until mid November when Uni breaks up, school finishes etc etc.
How does that figure compare with other carriers?? SQ/CX/TG etc?
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 09:40
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well I must have picked a bad day in september, cause the bloody thing was chockers! No upgrades in sight

Same with the 10 coming back.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:05
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EY doing well out of Melbourne, this route they achieve their highest load factor across their network and out of all international carriers to/from Australia.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:48
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As some others have posted here, also the opposite experience.

Trying to redeem Business awards recently on QF1/2 or QF5/6 gives almost no availability....

Managed to get availability on BA15/16 via SIN

(was using a Qantas oneworld award in which EK is not an option)

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Old 24th Oct 2013, 12:18
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Hmmm gee lets see who would I choose between EK and QF? Tough choice that one!
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 20:20
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Been this way for a couple of weeks now with the odd more full day here and there.
Coming back it's full as a state school, quiet season as has been suggested.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 01:22
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QF for sure.. all the business class emirates trips i have done have been nothing short of miserable with over worked under appreciated crew.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 02:54
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recommend adjustments to the Qantas international network, including timing and capacity, to maximise profitability and/or minimise cost
Isn't it easier to say shrinking to grow?

Interesting the job description doesn't mention the word growth.
Another win for HR!

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