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Old 5th Nov 2013, 22:48
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On Wed we will be releasing the real workloads showing available work on Qantas aircraft. They say there is 44 weeks whitespace. We have re-adjusted their plan so it has been cut back to 4 weeks. That's right, they should be running Avalon with 4 weeks whitespace and that information will be made public on Wed.



Where can I see this information Fed Sec
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Old 5th Nov 2013, 23:44
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When did Sarah Henderson MP meet with Avalon employees and union chiefs as she claims in todays Geelong Advertiser .

Corangamite MP takes on Qantas chief over Avalon jobs | Geelong Advertiser

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Where can I see this information Fed Sec
In the notice we sent to all Avalon ALAEA members this arvo.


When did Sarah Henderson MP meet with Avalon employees and union chiefs as she claims in todays Geelong Advertiser .
Two weeks ago. She was at toolbox meetings and has met and spoken to union leaders. Trying to get to the important issues I notice. See if you can catch the local member out lying.

I'd be more worried about your job and trying to secure that.
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Read the notice SP, very interesting reading. As always you, PC and the team have cut through all the QF crap.
Must say your ternacity in fighting for AVA is quiet admirable considering the facility's track recording supporting ALAEA. Still we all know despite the high degree of management lackey's some good people also work there.
Can't wait to hear how Texas Tony responds.
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Old 6th Nov 2013, 08:12
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After loosing 2 maintenance base,AVA is a challenge and I am quite sure the media attention and politician are also on notice so is QF reputation about saving jobs in Australia.Good work Alaea team
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Thnx guys. We've pretty much done all we can. Sorry AWU members, we didn't incorporate the suggestion of your State Sec who said on ABC radio that they hoped "Qantas can replace the retiring 747 aircraft work with the bigger Boeing".

For those interested our full and abbreviated presentation can be viewed here -

ALAEA - Notice 33/2013 Qantas & Forstaff: Meeting Today Over Avalon Future
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Old 6th Nov 2013, 08:48
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Can I suggest that if AVA does survive it must be as QF facility not incorporating a labour hire company.
I think this is crucial to all QF engineering ops going forward. I know we can't force this but it is an important point.
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Old 6th Nov 2013, 09:01
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Can I suggest that if AVA does survive it must be as QF facility not incorporating a labour hire company.
I think this is crucial to all QF engineering ops going forward. I know we can't force this but it is an important point.
You can push something because you think it is an "important point" but at the end of the day, we aren't trying to score points or win arguments about something we think is important. We are trying to save people's jobs.

Right now as workers we have nothing to bargain with. We cannot threaten them or place excessive demands before them. What we can do is sell our virtues. The excellent safety record. Flexible work practices with rosters. Multiple hangars to work out of and ability to cross over many aircraft types.

If we demanded Labour hire go. It would and so would the facility. Some things are worth fighting for and others, you just have to live with.
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Old 6th Nov 2013, 09:44
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Nice Work Steve and the team

Your effort is evidenced and regardless of the outcome you can't be accused of not giving it your best shot!

Keep up your fantastic efforts but don't burn yourselves out!

Well done again - thanks!
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Totally agree.
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 08:05
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The Age
A spokesman for the airline said the key issue was that there were 22 months over the next four years where there was "no work [scheduled] in the hangar in Avalon". He said there were "significant issues with the [engineer association's] proposal".
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Uncredited journo has an article in todays Herald Sun Page 12 stated workers could maybe get work on Other Airlines Aircraft at Avalon .
Article writer failed to realise once Qantas is gone Forstaff is just left with a rented office some old furniture and box of paper clips that's it .
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 21:40
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The official announcement has been made:

Qantas announces outcome of Avalon Maintenance Review
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 22:35
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Why the hell would the Victorian government "support this decision"!?
Why would an arrogant Sydney based company give any thought as to what the Victorian Govt. might think? I've been on a trade mission with both executives from Avalon Airport and Victorian Government ministers. My observation is that they are earnest in their attempts to generate business for Avalon Airport.

Singapore is not a low cost country. The real question is how is it cheaper for Qantas? And, if Qantas has excess capacity, surely management with vision could either seek additional outside work or spin it off as a separate business which (like the Singaporean maintenance bases) could compete for other airline work.
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Old 7th Nov 2013, 23:40
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Having just done a project in a Malaysian MRO, yes the labour my be half the hourly rate - but when it takes 2 of them twice as long to do a job as an Aussie tradesman what are you really saving?

If you need a quick and dirty c check for end of lease - yes, send it to an Asian MRO, if you actually want it to be reliable in service, do it yourself.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 00:15
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Not quite right on Employees taking no pay leave, ALAEA put that forward and it did not get voted on but I can assure you it would not have made it.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 00:18
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Last couple of CEO's tried to get Avalon closed but our little Irish mate (loose word) has done it!!!!
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 00:27
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Yes standing at this speech I was a bit staggered when that was said, any questions was asked but the shock of closure was a bit mind numbing and not much discussed.
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 02:37
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TL did the dirty job for CN
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Old 8th Nov 2013, 03:35
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Right on the money with that statement.
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