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Old 2nd Mar 2014, 16:30
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The EOI from early December to mitigate Avalon and SAM CR's seems to be stalled pending the 300 redundancies in the big plan over 3 years.
Is the new one announced to move to BNE heavy or PER lmo the only option for the Avalon and SAM lames?
Too many eoi's to keep track of. Do these dicks actually have a timeframe for who from where is moving on.
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 21:09
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To all you guys from Sydney International and Domestic that find yourselves being transferred to Base Servicing, take my advice. Don't bleat and moan about having to slum it over in the hangars like some have in the past. Just be happy to have a job and remember that other guys have been made redundant to make room for you there. Steve and the rest of the guys at the association will have their hands full saving jobs and don't want to deal with people upset about having to change to a different smoko room!
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 22:19
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Agree!!! What CoolB1Banana said!!!
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 06:35
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guys have been made redundant to make room for you there
Guys have been made redundant to allow a poor business model to run without going bankrupt. Not the employees fault.

SIO and SDO losing their work to SAM. All employees are feeling the same pain.
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 07:02
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I think the guys being made redundant will feel considerably more pain buddy.
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 07:47
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I think the guys being made redundant will feel considerably more pain
They will when it happens. There are redundancies in SIO and SDO also, they are being hit hard.

There is no disputing that whoever is made redundant will feel pain. That goes without saying.

I just find it objectionable if we start blaming each other for these redundancies. This is not the case, we are not at fault.

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Old 5th Mar 2014, 04:40
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Hey FedSec.

During your meetings with QF management (CN/TL) can you find out how many of the "A" Licensed Engineers are part of the total redundancy numbers?.I'm guessing....................0.
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Old 5th Mar 2014, 06:27
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some comedy relief

"A personal message for QANTAS CEO Alan Joyce".

Check this you tube video out , this guy doesn't hold back , some of his info is a little wrong , but it's hilarious. I think he's pissed.
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Old 5th Mar 2014, 20:35
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Qatar vacancies

For anyone that may be interested there is a vacancy notice on seek.com.au for qatar airways,they will be in melbourne on 17,18 & 19 march,all details on seek.com.au,good luck to anyone interested.
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Old 6th Mar 2014, 03:49
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For anyone that may be interested there is a vacancy notice on seek.com.au for qatar airways,they will be in melbourne on 17,18 & 19 march,all details on seek.com.au,good luck to anyone interested.

Also Etihad have advertised for Engineers on SEEK.


Good luck everyone, hope things work out as well as they can.


I am quite sure my number is up.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 08:37
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As a Servicing LAME, I fail to see how they can justify making me redundant when our department is becoming bigger. The way I see it, they are winding down the terminals to the demise of the guys in Servicing. It's unethical and would have to border on being unlawful. When they closed down Heavy Maint they didn't sack guys at the terminal to make way for Heavy guys. Obviously it comes down to licences but that doesn't make it particularly fair.

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Old 7th Mar 2014, 09:20
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That being the case, all the ex heavy guys that came to servicing post heavy shutdown, should get the flick before any of the servicing guys.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 09:37
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I don't get your point.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 10:38
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Joyce will win if the last two posts are anything to go by.
Stand together can't you see it's exactly why they want to divide and conquer.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 13:51
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That's great logic Lean Sigma - sack all the LAMES with the most collective experience !

Spoken like a true Base Servicing guru ! Done an A Check lately ? Oh thats right that's all you do !

Don't get me wrong I don't like what is happening as much as the next bloke , but people's true colors come out when the ****e is about to go down .
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 15:48
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How about keeping all the ex heavy Lames with the "most collective experience" and also save the terminal Lames at the expense of the servicing guys. That sounds more fair.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 20:04
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Do you mean stand together Griffin? Sounds more like stand aside and make way for the terminal guys.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 22:37
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Aren't we all LAMES ?
Whether domestic,international,base or heavy don't let this become a fight against each other.
Let the ALAEA deal with the process I'm sure Steve won't go down without a fight.

It's about time that the employees of QF marched on coward street and as for all the believers who voted on a level playing field guess you're realising now that you're just supporting lower t&c per the boards plans.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 23:13
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Sounds like the quickest and fairest way to do it is to put everyone from Sydney in the same bucket and then it's last on first off no matter what licences you hold.
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Old 7th Mar 2014, 23:17
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The numbers point to Qantas wishing to make redundant LAME's with 'legacy' licences. Nothing to do with years of experience or terminal LAME's kicking out base maint LAME's with their licences. Qantas makes this decision, not the guys themselves being displaced. From a business point of view and the estimated $50-100k (whatever it is) company expense to train someone for a new type, why would Qantas make redundant people it can make use of in the new world ? Harsh but that's reality.

Perhaps it is time to look at something which would've made this a non issue in the first place. Base especially has had training severely curtailed in the last 10 years but it has been a nationwide trend. The provisions in the EBA for pay rises for each licence has had a negative overall impact on the staff development. An unintended consequence. Why are new licences still linked to pay rises ?

It might not have stopped redundancies but at least the guys being made redundant would've at least had qualifications that were useful in the outside world instead of a geriatric 767/747 licence.
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