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Old 27th Feb 2014, 08:51
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tech services to go from 278 down to 200.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 09:40
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AJ vs 54 unions.who wins
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AJ wanted to protect 35000 jobs,six months later 32000 now 27000 jobs ,very soon 21000 jobs by 2017 only 1 job.
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 23:05
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Joyce petition

Hi all
This is website has a petition to sack Joyce. I never signed the QF one because it was about offshoring jobs not raising foreign capital.
Let's get behind it and give the QF media team another headache. The link appeared in an earlier page of this thread.
Let the little slime ball know he can't fool everyone.
Come on do it for Qantas
Cheers
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http://www.change.org/en-AU/petition...-alan-joyce-2#
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Old 27th Feb 2014, 23:13
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Financial pundit Marcus Padley is gunning for J. Went out of his way this morning to say J has been in the job 5 years and doesn't expect he will make it 6.
Says that J was wrong man for the job as he lacks political touch unlike (as an example) Lord King.

Described his behaviour in shutting Qantas down last year as 'angry man' syndrome which alienated him from Canberra


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Old 28th Feb 2014, 00:57
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Financial pundit Marcus Padley is gunning for J. Went out of his way this morning to say J has been in the job 5 years and doesn't expect he will make it 6.
Says that J was wrong man for the job as he lacks political touch unlike (as an example) Lord King.

Described his behaviour in shutting Qantas down last year as 'angry man' syndrome which alienated him from Canberra
All this is expected from analysts who were interestingly silent in the lead up to the report. Everyone of them were reluctant to make meaningful comment nor take any meaningful action on behalf of their clients. It's been "Yes, knew that" or " .....saw this coming" or even supported the board's strategy having swallowed the "spin" hook, line and sinker.
None, of which I am aware, have even approached the board for comment to the obvious questions on performance, strategy or responsibility.
Even more disappointing, was question time after the presentation of the report. It was weak and seemed as though there were only cadet journos present instead of hardened veterans.
Are the investment and hedge fund managers just waiting for a takeover opportunity to rape and pillage the company now while it is vulnerable?
We'll have to wait to see.
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Fed Sec, is there going to be another EOI for VR opening up soon?
The last EOI closed on 18 Feb for 'early March' departure.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 03:00
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I just spoke to a mate with AMSA in Brissy and he said they have been asked to tender for some of the QF receipt/dispatch work in SYD. They are looking for more guys in SYD. CASR-66 or SAR-66 B1 fundamentals minimum.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 06:43
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These same pesky legacy folk who did the work to pay for Jetstars creation,
and all the ill-fated franchises in redq, Vietnam, Hongkong, Japan, barely floating
jetsar asia and jitconnect type operations, a list that goes on and on.
This legacy **** still breathes, kill what routes were not gifted to Jetstar and
get rid of their capacity. Fcuking ungrateful legacy airline holding the company back,
and causing this damned 65% war game of death.
Tony might think joyce is a genius, but it's time to go get a reality pill.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 07:20
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Reform on the tarmac. Texas Tony will be looking to farm out 744 turnarounds. AMSA and JHAS in the mix to take on the work.

Plenty, plenty of pain to come.

Company, to attending Unions, would not divulge where ALL of the 5000 will exactly come from, code, they will dismember the LAME population down the track. Numbers will be continually culled and they will say you were always part of the initial 5000.

It may be 300 now. It will be a lot more over time.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 07:30
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I doubt JHAS are in the mix, I thought they are just about fold.

Isn't AMSA full of strike breakers? They have come full circle.
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Tonight's news Denis Napthine promised help for all the Victorian Qantas workers and as the Avalon guys are included in these latest numbers one must wonder what he has done for any of them so far.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 10:22
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Try and forget all the rumours guys. We meet with them 11.30 Monday.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 11:04
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How many $multi-million towing incidents is that now in LAX?

I wonder if the pr1cks factor all that in when they tell us how much cheaper it is to get work done at Air-Nair.
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Just heard from a source that the 2 guys in CNS may have fallen on their sword. My understanding is the disposal of these two will go a long way to returning QF to profitability.
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When is the next cull at QF Engineering?

Just heard the 300+ jobs being made redundant in Engineering at present are extra over the announced 5000.

This management team are a nice bunch, real assassins. I bet that won't make the SMH or Australian. AJ couldn't even give the real figure because it is most likely going to be an ongoing operation to cut down unionised staff.
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Welcome to the Asian Fusion. Your Thai or Chinese for dinner comes at a price. QE must compete to be sustainable, the ALAEA can but delay the inevitable, they can't beat it.

They would be do better to understand the great challenge of this century which is the economic convergence between east and west and realise that being massively productive is the only alternative. If the ALAEA's members are as bright and enthusiastic as I believe, they will do everything in their power to ensure that waste is driven from their business and they are as efficient as possible. The choice is yours.
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 18:23
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Word is, the way they came up with the redundancy numbers for Base Servicing was: anyone without 380, 330 or 738 that's not a leading hand is gone. The list is already formulated and the union will just be told who is going. I just hope they do it fast so I can get on with my life.
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Your Thai or Chinese for dinner comes at a price. QE must compete to be sustainable
Unfortunately you summed it up mate. There is a definate choice here, and the choice is safety or cheap. Unfortunately for the travelling public it appears the scales are being tipped.

When I go out (yes I do get out occassionally), I still get asked very often by friends and people who travel, which airlines are safe to fly. I was ofen told "I only fly with Q....s because they are the worlds safest airline",

Now, as you pointed out BP, it seems the playing field is becoming levelled in this area. I even sat in a feedback meeting and heard GH state that we don't have the monopoly on safety anymore. Other MRO's are as safe as us (whatever the motives were for such a statement is beside my point). Many of our aircraft get heavy checks done overseas by other MRO's. EASA has reduced the standards required to carry out work in Australia.

We were the safest because of the way things were done. That was a niche. Now that doesn't seem important. What I am hearing is we need to be on par.

So BP2197, when we are simply on par with the rest of the world in the way we treat maintenance, what edge do we have in attracting those who flew because of our safety?
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Old 1st Mar 2014, 21:28
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So BP2197, when we are simply on par with the rest of the world in the way we treat maintenance, what edge do we have in attracting those who flew because of our safety?
Management would counter with - those other airlines/MRO's are safe. Planes are not falling out of the sky.That is true. But you never hear about the number of incidents and delays whilst the aircraft is on the line. Well, how do they really do it?

Inspect and find nothing. AMM calls for a consumable, don't have it, no worries nobody will know. If you find something, ignore it. At all cost deliver the plane to the client on time for the right price. These MRO's do exactly that or the client will not come back.

Imagine holding up a plane for a couple of extra weeks for corrosion removal, chasing that hydraulic leak, just can't quite rig those ailerons, the annunciator that flickers intermittently etc etc etc. You take your car for it's 100K service, you get it back on time and for the agreed price OR you're rung up in the morning and told this and this and this have been found, parts not available for a couple of days and it will cost over a thousand bucks and at the moment your car cannot be driven ie unroadworthy. How would YOU feel. I've always wondered why the analogy is not used more often with the media.

That is the dilemma facing aircraft maintenance. When the dollar is almighty and the place is run by bankers, mathematicians, accountants and piss weak ex-LAMEs in management, too afraid to make a case for good engineering, then what choice do most airlines make? She'll be right. It's the minimum requirement. It's cost effective. It's worlds best practise.

How can you argue? But what about our reputation for world beating safety, reduced incidents etc ? Just doesn't cut it in this 'modern' world.
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