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Jetstar may be bigger than Qantas one day.
Then again, maybe Qantas won't own JQ one day.
Everything Qantas management has done displays Jetstar to be the Ammaaaazing business it is.
Sell JQ to let's say an Asian Bank, another airline? Then see how it performs outside the umbrella of the Qantas group.
Then again, maybe Qantas won't own JQ one day.
Everything Qantas management has done displays Jetstar to be the Ammaaaazing business it is.
Sell JQ to let's say an Asian Bank, another airline? Then see how it performs outside the umbrella of the Qantas group.
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That's good to hear provided you're correct. The 'army if experts' to which I referred is that body of professional people that keeps Qantas ticking, day in, day out through thick and thin..
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Well there's your problem!
Just how many CEOs are we up to now? I've lost count.
And how many Chief Pilots are we up to now?
There's your problem.
Multiples of CEOs and Chief pilots more than is required and a huge layer of yes men, greasy pole climbers and sycophants telling the bloated upper management what a great job they're doing, while further insulating the coal face from those that are driving investment and policy.
Meanwhile you have a compliance industry hanging off the airline like a leach making millions out of their respective empires. Safety and Security being the main culprits. Not saying there isn't a place for both, but if I see another sign painted on a car park, or video telling me how to cross a road I'm going to choke someone. This is the reason it is so expensive to run a business in this country. Just how much does Qantas pay per annum to these parasites when our international competitors don't have to?
I don't know how much longer this can last. Even if the whole board and management were given their marching orders tomorrow, and a board and management with airline experience were parachuted in, I don't think it's possible to recover from here. We're beyond critical mass.
Start looking for jobs elsewhere.
And how many Chief Pilots are we up to now?
There's your problem.
Multiples of CEOs and Chief pilots more than is required and a huge layer of yes men, greasy pole climbers and sycophants telling the bloated upper management what a great job they're doing, while further insulating the coal face from those that are driving investment and policy.
Meanwhile you have a compliance industry hanging off the airline like a leach making millions out of their respective empires. Safety and Security being the main culprits. Not saying there isn't a place for both, but if I see another sign painted on a car park, or video telling me how to cross a road I'm going to choke someone. This is the reason it is so expensive to run a business in this country. Just how much does Qantas pay per annum to these parasites when our international competitors don't have to?
I don't know how much longer this can last. Even if the whole board and management were given their marching orders tomorrow, and a board and management with airline experience were parachuted in, I don't think it's possible to recover from here. We're beyond critical mass.
Start looking for jobs elsewhere.
100%.
A business that has totally lost any attachment to what it was set up to do.
A catastrophic failure of key components has occurred.
The change has been from 'provide what our customers want to the best of our ability' to 'provide what gives management the best financial reward possible'.
It is abhorrent.
A business that has totally lost any attachment to what it was set up to do.
A catastrophic failure of key components has occurred.
The change has been from 'provide what our customers want to the best of our ability' to 'provide what gives management the best financial reward possible'.
It is abhorrent.
Isdon,
I don't know what your background is but that is one of the most succinct summaries of the litany of failures that Qantas management (loose term) has foisted upon a very, very loyal workforce, that I have read.
And I totally agree. Get out now while you can still cut a reasonable deal for yourself. After the collapse (and whether it is total or not matters little) we will be a dime a dozen in the marketplace.
I am disgusted and appalled, but you speak the truth.
I don't know what your background is but that is one of the most succinct summaries of the litany of failures that Qantas management (loose term) has foisted upon a very, very loyal workforce, that I have read.
And I totally agree. Get out now while you can still cut a reasonable deal for yourself. After the collapse (and whether it is total or not matters little) we will be a dime a dozen in the marketplace.
I am disgusted and appalled, but you speak the truth.
Ok tidbin, get your point. BUT....
Jetstar IS the thread drift - the 787's are nothing to do with it!!
Oh the irony
Jetstar IS the thread drift - the 787's are nothing to do with it!!
Oh the irony
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OOL - NRT - can't do it with full load 
no worries, chunk up the donks!!!
oops…pylons not rated.
no worries, chunk up the pylons!!
oops…4 year lead in time. can be retrofitted after then.
anyone else, you'd be shocked. But the morons who run QF/JQ…its just comical.
Not to worry, someone will have received a nice bonus for all these amaaaaaaaaaaaazing decisions.
no worries, chunk up the donks!!!
oops…pylons not rated.
no worries, chunk up the pylons!!
oops…4 year lead in time. can be retrofitted after then.
anyone else, you'd be shocked. But the morons who run QF/JQ…its just comical.
Not to worry, someone will have received a nice bonus for all these amaaaaaaaaaaaazing decisions.
Its an operational spare
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Why Cairns when Jetstar has their very own wide body hangar in Melbourne ( nice when you can get big brother to gift you such infrastructure rather than pay for and build your own!) that often sits empty during the day with all the hangar lights blazing?
Good job somebody else is paying the bills!
Good job somebody else is paying the bills!
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So the "blue shirt boys landed heavy did they"?
The future of the Qantas Group no doubt!
How many man hours involved with ultra sonic inspection after such, on a carbon fibre structure?????
God help us!!!
The future of the Qantas Group no doubt!
How many man hours involved with ultra sonic inspection after such, on a carbon fibre structure?????
God help us!!!