CASA Chess Game

[NZScion]

I've said it before: there's a perfectly functioning and capable civil aviation authority already operating in this part of the world. Its called CAANZ, and I'm pretty sure they could do the job. Joint regs, joint education, do it all under one roof.

You could disband CASA, and have CAANZ take over the roles, retaining the good bits of CASA, and throwing out the bad.

It's already been done in other areas, See Here for example. There's no reason why it couldn't be done in aviation too...

[Flyingblind]

NZScion. Almost a case of "All your base belong to us" perhaps?

You never know, it just might have merit, may I suggest you conduct a poll to see PPRuNer's views?

[aroa]

Top idea...

NZScion..! CAA NZ would do very nicely. Think of the benefits.!!!

1. The existing CASA is so mendacious and dysfunctional its a total waste of space.
2. Think of the savings..!!!!! Billions in taxpayer dollars not urinated away on bodgy schemes, programs, trips and task forces, etc...that yield no positive results.
3 Would fulfil an obligation for Trans Tasman reg equality.

AND..I am quite sure NO other outfit could be as hidebound and moribund as CASA is, EVER.

Time for the BIG change.
But what do WE do to bring it on.?

[Frank Arouet]

A Federal election mate;

Piss the current encumbants off and promote anybody but The Greens, Independants, or others who can't firmly place their preferences to their electorates on their ballot paper how to vote blurbs.

We can possibly deal with Truss, but nobody alive can deal with Albo.

CAA NZ or CAA PNG can be sub contracted to do the job for a year or two.

[Dangly Bits]

Makes sense to me Frank.

I'm still seeing RA-Aus aircraft doing mustering out west, people flying unserviceable aircraft, "Pretend" charter companies etc! We still need an independent group to do the policing, licensing etc.

Interesting times ahead.

DB

[Algie]

And what was CASA's response when you made reports with dates, places, people, tail numbers etc on the "RA-Aus aircraft doing mustering out west, people flying unserviceable aircraft, "Pretend" charter companies etc!"

I have a few contacts in there. PM me copies of your reports and I'll ensure they get followed through.

Look forward to hearing from you. We all know that bar-room anecdotes are no substitute for real information.

[Up-into-the-air]

casa - We are here To Help You

Just send it on in!!!

[Dangly Bits]

Only one problem with that Algie. CASA has no idea how to keep you anonymous when you make a complaint.

I'm not going through that again.

DB

[Up-into-the-air]

casa and the numbers

From the 2011 annual report, casa say:

"CASA has a direct regulatory relationship with approximately:

▪ 34,300 pilots
▪ 14,360 owners of aircraft
▪ 850 Air Operator’s Certificate holders
▪ 7,000 licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineers
▪ 700 maintenance organisations
▪ 900 air traffic controllers
▪ 300 operators of certified and registered aerodromes
▪ 22 aerodrome rescue and firefighting service providers.

CASA is also indirectly connected with more than 100,000 people who are involved in the Australian aviation industry, and with the many millions of passengers whose safety is CASA’s primary concern.

People

At 30 June 2011, CASA employed 786 ongoing and non-ongoing employees in offices around Australia (see page 168)."

Well can you relate the following?

Flight crew licences current at 30 June 34,308 Table B.10
Australian flight crew licensing examinations 20,660 Table B.11
Medical certificates issued 25,259 Table B.12
[in 2007 there were 47,254 medical certificates]

Just have a look at the number of valid licences vs. medical certificates??

Last time I looked all valid licences required a medical certificate.

It would be interesting to see how many of these now are private!!!

Any answers Mr. casa

[Frank Arouet]

I would bet the 34,300 pilots include itinerates. There are probably 20,000 less those without medicals. Ask someone with a new licence what his number is. (although that's probably been corrupted).

14,300 owners would include airlines but probably not those registered in The Cayman Is. Even the Gov't BBJ's are rented from Qantas who lease them from some other entity.

Most GA owners would be pilot's as well making the figures a bit "bouncy".

300 airports wouldn't be that if not for CASA making heaps registerable by decree which included those airports that "had the capability" of RPT using them. Temora comes to mind as one now needing radio to get into and out.

22 RFS providers. Probably counted those controlled by Airservices and those on RDO's.

These figures probably passed muster with our auditors, but what did ICAO say about them?

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Hi Frank,
Re your
'ask someone what his licence number is'

Doesn't work any more.

In the Original 'Good Ole Days' of consecutive numbers for licences.....

Mid '64 - Student Lic No. 28,9** i.e. the 28,9**th student licence issued.
End '64 - PPL Lic No. 15,2**
Mid '66 - CPL Lic No. 6,1**

It was a 'thing' of those days to ask the newbie, 'and wots YOUR Lic. no.?'

Now it don't matter - I lost interest and some 'pride' in my lic. no when it was converted to an ARN of 0091**.

Just another number .....just another number.....who cares.....???

I Used To..!!

[Frank Arouet]

Mine went 21**5 to 021*** perhaps in 1984 when my green book is marked, "Permanently Valid". My original 1965 Student licence was five digits 32**8

All this aside the five digits went to six by the addition of a zero in front.

I'd be surprised if there are actually more than the 21,000 participating pilots with medicals which mine noted in 1967.

My FAI sporting licence is four digits at 1977.

It's all spin and getting worse.

[gobbledock]

Bishop mounts queen. No checkmate yet though.

And yet another update from Nupty Central. As already confirmed, Hood moved from EM Operations to EM Safety and Promotion after Sinclair pulled the pin. Cromarty takes over Hood's old role. Campbell has also been shuffled to a higher position courtesy of the recent changes including the sudden resignation of Mr Lloyd, EM Safety Oversight Branch.

Now the twist. It is rumored that the EM Operations was actually running a very good operation which was making a couple of the elderly more senior echelon look like complete twats (not hard to do really). So that is why he got shifted sideways. Mr Lloyd was outraged and had it out with Farqwitson over the matter and quit, literally, and on the spot.

So again, it would appear that the 'good guy's have been rogered by the old forces of evil. I would go further to suspect a potential ass kicking is headed their way in the not so distant future, probably care of the senate inquiry and other not so generous attention?

The lunatics are definitely in charge if the asylum.

[Kharon]

The slippery pole

GD - Bishop mounts queen. No checkmate yet though.

Can't see how you can compare the a game of chess, which requires a modicum of intelligence to the antics of the Golden West Mafia. Snakes and ladders seems to be the order of the day there; where the snakes control the ladders.

I have my popcorn ready and a moderate amount of booze saved in the fridge to watch the upcoming show, there's the Polar show, the Senate show and the Qld LNP show which is about to kick off.

Seems to me we should have whip round for minister for Marrickville to buy him a tin hat, he'll get no help from 'the lads'.

Tick tock indeed.

[Sarcs]

Tick tock indeed.

Yeah what has happened to GD's tick tock, has the clock ran out of 'tock' or has he forgotten to replace the batteries? Anyway "K" good post and I think it's my shout for the popcorn!

[gobbledock]

Back by popular demand...

I insist on shouting the next round of popcorn. I will donate the empty popcorn box, complete with oily residue, to the first Fuhrer who gets reamed at fort fumble.

Tick tock

[Kharon]

Little birdies

GD - And yet another update from Nupty Central. As already confirmed, Hood moved from EM Operations to EM Safety and Promotion after Sinclair pulled the pin.

Dateline Townsville – Refueller reckons Hood almost threw a con rod he was so cranky. Shame to see one of the "better" (pre lobotomy) operators being driven to where?; pause for thought here. Exactly what sort of performance could you reasonably expect as a tax payer from anyone under those conditions. Honour amongst thieves ?? .

Is it the voodoo that he do the hoodoo that we know so well working internally??. It makes me wonder, it really does.

[gobbledock]

Oink oink

Exactly what sort of performance could you reasonably expect as a tax payer from anyone under those conditions.

Perhaps all these highly technical issues can be raised at the Aviation law conference in NZ April 1 - 3? I hear those invited, which includes some of Australia's finest weiner champions and alleged regulatory heirachy, will be taking with them their panama hats, thesaurus, cigars and slippers, draft thesis and assorted intelectual pony pooh and play costumes (Hamlet and Macbeth will be reenacted).
Please don't forget the taxpayer funds that will be used to pay for this tomfoolery in the form of business class airfares, top notch accomodation, allowances and other assorted treats. Now who said us taxpayers are not a generous bunch?

Hot off the press !! Off site activities include -

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[flying-spike]

Art imitating life?

Good to see industry has all four feet firmly on the ground

[Kharon]

GD v Spike

Tough call fellah's - shear brilliance versus succinct satire.

We have 1 banana left, 1 cigar and 1 pineapple (reserved for Ministerial use) as prizes.

The vote is open to all (being a robust, democratic warden and all). Too close to call as they say.

Thanks for the smiles boys.