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Old 30th Nov 2012, 01:08
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PNF ghosting the controls....

Out of interest, with just a smidge of thread drift, and this is more for the Boeing/Fokker operators rather than Airbus fbw with independent stick movement;

Are there any company procedures out there today that require the PNF to follow through on the controls?

I have only come across it before when I was pre-solo and had heard stories of it used for obvious reasons in wartime helicopter landings in hot LZs.

Do any airlines require crew to do this??

Virgin, Skywest, Qantas, Jetstar, Tiger??

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Old 30th Nov 2012, 01:25
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Nope. Hands are close but not on. With a great big prong in plain view, it's pretty easy to see if the inputs aren't right even before the aeroplane reacts.
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Old 30th Nov 2012, 12:34
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I'm only speculating here but I would very much doubt that a go-around at that late stage of the landing would have been due to a predictive windshear alert.

A predictive windshear alert would have been based on windshear detected ahead of the aircraft - this aircraft was close to the flare.

It would have been more likely that the aircraft was either outside stable parameters, or received a hard GPWS based windshear alert, or the pilot was just not happy with the conditions.

They raised the gear straight away which also indicates that the go-around was not windshear related.

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Old 30th Nov 2012, 23:49
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They raised the gear straight away which also indicates that the go-around was not windshear related.
PWS does not require the gear to be left down, only a windshear warning requires it (at least on Airbus anway).

Does the Boeing inhibit PWS warnings below a certain height on approach?
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