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I think the point is every one of us stuffs up sometime, nobody has perfect judgement especially under pressure , late at night , personal issues (like being sacked) family troubles etc.
The mechanisms to keep those holes lining up are being reduced.
Pilots and engineers need to work together to reduce risks and keep a very close eye on what we all do.
We cannot afford to be divided.
Both groups have their problem children and I ask we put that minority aside for the real aim of working as pro's and keeping this game as a safe as we can. Exec's, hatchet men and thick headed pollies come and go, but we will carry the can if there is major incident.
The mechanisms to keep those holes lining up are being reduced.
Pilots and engineers need to work together to reduce risks and keep a very close eye on what we all do.
We cannot afford to be divided.
Both groups have their problem children and I ask we put that minority aside for the real aim of working as pro's and keeping this game as a safe as we can. Exec's, hatchet men and thick headed pollies come and go, but we will carry the can if there is major incident.
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Interesting discussion.
An aviation term that could very well be back with us in its true sense by the time the 20's come back round...
The clock is being turned back here and you really are flying by the seat of your pants. An aviaition term that in its true sense left us in the 20's.
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What is the point of this thread??
Are pilots doing the wrong thing? If so provide the evidence and report it to CASA.
If CASA aren't doing the right thing, report CASA to a higher authority.
If in fact the thread is designed to paint Qantas pilots as unprofessional to suit your industrial agenda, then the engineers should be looking for a new union leader.
Are pilots doing the wrong thing? If so provide the evidence and report it to CASA.
If CASA aren't doing the right thing, report CASA to a higher authority.
If in fact the thread is designed to paint Qantas pilots as unprofessional to suit your industrial agenda, then the engineers should be looking for a new union leader.
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Dash8 AirNuigini radios Maintenance Watch, " Props keep going out of sync, advise"
Short wait .... " Suggest shut down one engine"
Long Pause...." You do realise we are flying?"
No answer
Short wait .... " Suggest shut down one engine"
Long Pause...." You do realise we are flying?"
No answer
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What is the point of this thread??
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It's to let you know that breaches will be reported to CASA
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What breaches are you going to report ?
We are sick of Qantas relying on cowboys and those too scared to speak out. We will do it (report) ourselves, there are enough good members who send things to us. Don't think Engineers are immune, they are involved in many reports we submit.
I rarely see any breach that is not in part or totally attributable to management. Be it fatigue, pressure, stress, a norm they allow to develop, understaffing, direct threats ....... you name it.
ALAEA Fed Sec love your work and totally admire your endeavour!
Have been monitoring this thread for sometime now and thought the following Vasta/McKinnon v CASA in the AAT was particularly relevant to what it is you've all been banging on about:
Vasta and Anor and Civil Aviation Safety Authority [2010] AATA 499 (6 July 2010)
It is a particularly long decision by Member Taylor but is very much worth the read especially when Taylor basically tells CASA and Qantas management to stop being so precious...utterly priceless!
Have been monitoring this thread for sometime now and thought the following Vasta/McKinnon v CASA in the AAT was particularly relevant to what it is you've all been banging on about:
Vasta and Anor and Civil Aviation Safety Authority [2010] AATA 499 (6 July 2010)
It is a particularly long decision by Member Taylor but is very much worth the read especially when Taylor basically tells CASA and Qantas management to stop being so precious...utterly priceless!
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If pilots think they know better than the engineer, then by all means carry out as much or no write ups as you wish. After all it is you who will be in the smoking hole and not me. I just hope I'm not in the back when your ignorance catches up to your arrogant sky god mentality.
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Ok . Onya Steve . Be careful about glass houses mate , we are your only ally _
I hope readers can understand this.
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Steve - if a bug dies in my windscreen in mt Isa shall I write it up or should I wait till I get home ?