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has Casa not closely supervising Airservices caused problems with traffic control?
However, they do closely monitor Executive bonuses, overseas travel calendars, staff emails, the Ministers hotline etc.
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Gents, RTO ... well for me that means rejected take off, but in this case they're talking about Registered Training Organisation.
They haven't looked at the training school etc rather than this two hour thing.
Yeah! they don't want the training looked at too hard, seeing as a long gone manager stuffed that all up with new age management practises which is fancy bean counting.
If you give the poor no bread, you can tell someone higher up that you saved on the food bill can't you.
They haven't looked at the training school etc rather than this two hour thing.
Yeah! they don't want the training looked at too hard, seeing as a long gone manager stuffed that all up with new age management practises which is fancy bean counting.
If you give the poor no bread, you can tell someone higher up that you saved on the food bill can't you.
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Relic old friend, wise words indeed. The CASA can't even get their own training area in order, let alone be in a position to understand or monitor what ASA does. Jeez, do they even know what the term or reference 'training' even means?? It's all bollocks run by pillicks.
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Gobbledock, you ain't in Alabama!
You must be here.
Management (everywhere) is like a bunch of teenagers.
They know everything because their mates keep 'em abreast of the latest thing.
Their parents know nothing... they're past it. It's a whole new world out there.
When they cock up; their mates leave 'em and hide and their parents have to sort the mess with their money and contacts.
When things are fixed, the teen struts around telling his mates, "They couldn't do nothin' too me. I wasn't scared."
Management cocks up and leaves for greener pastures and who fixes the mess?
The people on the ground.
A.S.A. ---- Pretend business with pretend managers!
You must be here.
Management (everywhere) is like a bunch of teenagers.
They know everything because their mates keep 'em abreast of the latest thing.
Their parents know nothing... they're past it. It's a whole new world out there.
When they cock up; their mates leave 'em and hide and their parents have to sort the mess with their money and contacts.
When things are fixed, the teen struts around telling his mates, "They couldn't do nothin' too me. I wasn't scared."
Management cocks up and leaves for greener pastures and who fixes the mess?
The people on the ground.
A.S.A. ---- Pretend business with pretend managers!
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Industry proposal #362436.
(Consultation is available, please see attached form; conditions apply).
1) That a suitably large paddock fenced to OH & S standards be leased.
2) That a Round up of all 'Crats be conducted and the whole mob yarded (in said paddock).
3) That the yarded 'crats be suitably equipped with (i) a Yellow Safety jacket and (ii) a large orange flag with the word "Safety" printed on it (in really big letters).
4) That a pensioner be hired to ride a push bike around the enclosure perimeter twice a day.
Operational overview) Every time the pensioner appears, the intent is that the yarded ones will stand, raise their flags, wave vigorously whilst robustly chanting "safety before profit". Thus, when the 'ride around' is complete, the yarded ones can return to limelight basking, troughing and perusing the provided scatology literature.
Operational aim) To yard the silly buggers, while humanely providing useful employment and shelter (UN policy) which will then allow the industry to get on and sort out the bloody mess left behind.
End view) Any dopey politician who even looks like opening its trap may be arbitrarily yarded for the duration of the clean up: N.B. they must provide their own flags; not made of money you know.
All those in favour say Aye.
1) That a suitably large paddock fenced to OH & S standards be leased.
2) That a Round up of all 'Crats be conducted and the whole mob yarded (in said paddock).
3) That the yarded 'crats be suitably equipped with (i) a Yellow Safety jacket and (ii) a large orange flag with the word "Safety" printed on it (in really big letters).
4) That a pensioner be hired to ride a push bike around the enclosure perimeter twice a day.
Operational overview) Every time the pensioner appears, the intent is that the yarded ones will stand, raise their flags, wave vigorously whilst robustly chanting "safety before profit". Thus, when the 'ride around' is complete, the yarded ones can return to limelight basking, troughing and perusing the provided scatology literature.
Operational aim) To yard the silly buggers, while humanely providing useful employment and shelter (UN policy) which will then allow the industry to get on and sort out the bloody mess left behind.
End view) Any dopey politician who even looks like opening its trap may be arbitrarily yarded for the duration of the clean up: N.B. they must provide their own flags; not made of money you know.
All those in favour say Aye.
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Airservices conducted a review of the incident on 12 February this year and that review did not identify any evidence of a systemic problem but rather reflected on individual performance and Airservices has taken action to prevent a recurrence of the event.
And the winner is?
Breakdown of legal services costs...
You guessed it...hmm wonder what % of the 2.144 million was used for employment disputes?
Rural & Regional Affairs and Transport Legislation Committee
ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
Budget Estimates May 2012
Infrastructure and Transport
Question no.: 04
Program: n/a
Division/Agency: (CORP) Corporate Services
Topic: Legal Fees
Proof Hansard Page/s: 16 (23/05/12)
Senator McKENZIE asked:
Senator McKENZIE: I want to ask something on notice. It goes to the legal fees of the department and the agencies. From my rough calculations to a question on notice, we have over $10 million being spent on legal fees. I would like that broken down. We have $2 million from Airservices Australia. We have $1.7 million from Airservices Australia for another issue. The department has spent $1.2 million with the Australian Government Solicitor. Could I have further detail for the over $1 million in legal bills in the answer to question on notice 25?
Mr Mrdak: Certainly. We obviously have a number of legal actions which we deal with, I think, which are predominantly the areas covered by those larger expenditures. Obviously we appear in a number of corporate processes at a time. But I will get you some more detail in relation to those.
Answer:
Department of Infrastructure and Transport
Service category Cost
Commercial (contracts, property and construction,
procurement, grants and funding, intergovernmental
agreements and corporate law)
$380,896
Litigation and dispute resolution (debt recovery, tribunal and
court proceedings, employment law and enforcement)
$191.282
General advice (statutory interpretation, legislative drafting,
employment law and financial law)
$1,122,699
Australian Maritime Safety Authority
Service category Cost
General legal advice $605,268
Legislative drafting $477,453
New policy- National System $360,350
Airservices Australia
Service category Cost
Staffing and office support costs for Airservices Office of
Legal Counsel. $1,720,000
Service category Cost
External Legal costs covering such things as property,
employment and commercial matters. $2,144,000
Civil Aviation Safety Authority
Service category Cost
Salaries for 14 staff $1,014,909
Leave and employer super $234,359
Other overhead costs $309,190
ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
Budget Estimates May 2012
Infrastructure and Transport
Question no.: 04
Program: n/a
Division/Agency: (CORP) Corporate Services
Topic: Legal Fees
Proof Hansard Page/s: 16 (23/05/12)
Senator McKENZIE asked:
Senator McKENZIE: I want to ask something on notice. It goes to the legal fees of the department and the agencies. From my rough calculations to a question on notice, we have over $10 million being spent on legal fees. I would like that broken down. We have $2 million from Airservices Australia. We have $1.7 million from Airservices Australia for another issue. The department has spent $1.2 million with the Australian Government Solicitor. Could I have further detail for the over $1 million in legal bills in the answer to question on notice 25?
Mr Mrdak: Certainly. We obviously have a number of legal actions which we deal with, I think, which are predominantly the areas covered by those larger expenditures. Obviously we appear in a number of corporate processes at a time. But I will get you some more detail in relation to those.
Answer:
Department of Infrastructure and Transport
Service category Cost
Commercial (contracts, property and construction,
procurement, grants and funding, intergovernmental
agreements and corporate law)
$380,896
Litigation and dispute resolution (debt recovery, tribunal and
court proceedings, employment law and enforcement)
$191.282
General advice (statutory interpretation, legislative drafting,
employment law and financial law)
$1,122,699
Australian Maritime Safety Authority
Service category Cost
General legal advice $605,268
Legislative drafting $477,453
New policy- National System $360,350
Airservices Australia
Service category Cost
Staffing and office support costs for Airservices Office of
Legal Counsel. $1,720,000
Service category Cost
External Legal costs covering such things as property,
employment and commercial matters. $2,144,000
Civil Aviation Safety Authority
Service category Cost
Salaries for 14 staff $1,014,909
Leave and employer super $234,359
Other overhead costs $309,190
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Tomorrow!.
About 1400 EST tomorrow, marks the end of an era. It will quietly happen in the Senate and your comments on this subject have made it happen. Brava Ppruners, well done!, well done indeed.
I will not bang on about the sad state this industry is in, or the governmental agencies which have; in no small way, contributed to it's near demise. My thoughts, hopes and care for an industry I love, have been shared with some great folk here; infinitum; et tedium (and probably, ad nauseam).
My hope is that just for a short while, we can all stick together and rid ourselves of the invidious, often incestuous, expensive, non productive,. parasite on this industry, which has become our Civil Aviation Safety Authority.
Tomorrow is a start, the 22nd gives a slim (60/40 against) chance – the rest boys and girls; is really - up to you.
Selah – sleep well (if you can).
PS, the old man says Cheers (then rasps "about bloody time": Kilkenny rules. OK).
With the indulgence of T28 –
Macbeth:
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
I will not bang on about the sad state this industry is in, or the governmental agencies which have; in no small way, contributed to it's near demise. My thoughts, hopes and care for an industry I love, have been shared with some great folk here; infinitum; et tedium (and probably, ad nauseam).
My hope is that just for a short while, we can all stick together and rid ourselves of the invidious, often incestuous, expensive, non productive,. parasite on this industry, which has become our Civil Aviation Safety Authority.
Tomorrow is a start, the 22nd gives a slim (60/40 against) chance – the rest boys and girls; is really - up to you.
Selah – sleep well (if you can).
PS, the old man says Cheers (then rasps "about bloody time": Kilkenny rules. OK).
With the indulgence of T28 –
Macbeth:
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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Beware of the elephant
Anyone care to translate?
However, don't hold your breath as the spin doctors, purveyors of pony pooh, the lawyers, the witchdoctors and the pollies have seen this coming for a while and they will be there, armed with documents, spreadsheets, surprise announcements and holding a fist full of polished turds in an attempt to spin their way out of the spotlight. Some in CASA have spent decades dry humping the taxpayer troughs and they certainly won't go out without a fight.
It may be a somewhat robust afternooon, so grab a brewskie or two, some popcorn and even a tub of vaseline cos it may be exciting.
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The booths are open, step in and vote!
VOTE 1 SENATOR X PRIME MINISTER OF AUSTRALIA!
Senator X For PM!
Senator X For PM!
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Yesterday's hearings were a complete yawn.
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Airservices Controllers in Sydney
Question??
Yesterday, 20th October, there were in-bound flights held up by 5 controllers reporting in sick on Saturday.
Some regional areas were really bad with 5 hour delays at Albury
Anyone know anything??
Not to do with the hearing on Monday??
Yesterday, 20th October, there were in-bound flights held up by 5 controllers reporting in sick on Saturday.
Some regional areas were really bad with 5 hour delays at Albury
Anyone know anything??
Not to do with the hearing on Monday??
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Perhaps Greg needs to get his secretary to do a spell and grammar check before hitting the "send" button to his minions.
Since when have we had an "international day of the air traffic controller"? Whilst they do a great job, I thought these days were reserved for such important things as cancer days, "speak like a pirate" and "Cleanup Australia". (Yes, that was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek).
Pull the other one, Mr. Atkins
Since when have we had an "international day of the air traffic controller"? Whilst they do a great job, I thought these days were reserved for such important things as cancer days, "speak like a pirate" and "Cleanup Australia". (Yes, that was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek).
Pull the other one, Mr. Atkins
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This type of situation has become all to regular on weekends, so clearly some action will be taken.
Someones going to be called to the principle’s office. Cant give you to much info, but those of you dont get the hint are perhaps ignoring the rant’s of those who score the daily double: Leadership skills of a garden snail as well as illiterate.