Air New Zealand Auckland to Sunshine Coast
not what the "experts" think...
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Devonport Tasmania Australia
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Yeah well good luck NZ - with the biggest nightmare of a fare structure in the world.
No bag, no food nothing - or - add the bags and no food - or - bags and food and everything else and so on. Following is a fare display from MEL CHC. Is there any wonder why I drink?
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 PSATUSS P X 124.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
NZ-NZC/SMARTSAVER-SB - SMART SAVER RULES PLUS BAG
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
2 KBAGUSS K X 149.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
3 XBAGUSS X X 168.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
4 GBAGUSS G X 190.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
NZ-NZC/SMARTSAVER-SW - SMART SAVER RULES PLUS THE WORKS
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
5 LWRKUSS L X 179.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
6 TWRKUSS T X 198.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
7 WWRKUSS W X 220.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
8 VWRKUSS V X 253.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
NZ-NZC/SMARTSAVER-SD - SMART SAVER RULES PLUS WORKS DELUXE
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
9 LDLXUSS L X 294.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
10 TDLXUSS T X 323.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
11 WDLXUSS W X 355.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
12 VDLXUSS V X 398.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
NZ-NZC/FLEXI-XW - FLEXI RULES PLUS THE WORKS
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
13 QWRKUF Q X 320.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
14 HWRKUF H X 411.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
15 MWRKUF M X 524.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
16 BWRKUF B X 661.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
17 YWRKUF Y X 832.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
NZ-NZC/FLEXI-XD - FLEXI RULES PLUS WORKS DELUXE
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
18 QDLXUF Q X 515.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
19 HDLXUF H X 636.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
20 MDLXUF M X 769.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
21 BDLXUF B X 906.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
22 YDLXUF Y X 1077.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
NZ-NZC/BUSINESS-BU - BUSINESS CLASS FARES
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
23 DRBIZ D X 1026.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH03
24 CRBIZ C X 1176.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH03
25 CRBIZ C X 1285.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
*** BELOW ARE YY NLX FARES MEL-CHC VALID ON NZ ***
YY MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
26 . HIF H R 1452.00 ---- - -/ - EH04
27 . HIF H O 944.00 ---- - -/ - EH04
28 . DIF D R 2776.00 ---- - -/ - EH04
29 . DIF D O 1805.00 ---- - -/ - EH04
And that is for a 3.20 run on a 160 odd seat aeroplane for stuff all return. Turns the old Shark Patrol into the Berlin Airlift.
What ****** in NZ marketing was clever enough to come out with a system that is so cumbersome that their Agency and Res dudes hate it and I am sure the "who gets what" must be a nightmare for the Cabin Crew.
Good luck on the Sunny Coast NZ, but do realise your biggest negative is your own fare structure.
Best all
EWL
No bag, no food nothing - or - add the bags and no food - or - bags and food and everything else and so on. Following is a fare display from MEL CHC. Is there any wonder why I drink?
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 PSATUSS P X 124.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
NZ-NZC/SMARTSAVER-SB - SMART SAVER RULES PLUS BAG
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
2 KBAGUSS K X 149.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
3 XBAGUSS X X 168.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
4 GBAGUSS G X 190.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
NZ-NZC/SMARTSAVER-SW - SMART SAVER RULES PLUS THE WORKS
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
5 LWRKUSS L X 179.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
6 TWRKUSS T X 198.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
7 WWRKUSS W X 220.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
8 VWRKUSS V X 253.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
NZ-NZC/SMARTSAVER-SD - SMART SAVER RULES PLUS WORKS DELUXE
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
9 LDLXUSS L X 294.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
10 TDLXUSS T X 323.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
11 WDLXUSS W X 355.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH01
12 VDLXUSS V X 398.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
NZ-NZC/FLEXI-XW - FLEXI RULES PLUS THE WORKS
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
13 QWRKUF Q X 320.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
14 HWRKUF H X 411.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
15 MWRKUF M X 524.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
16 BWRKUF B X 661.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
17 YWRKUF Y X 832.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
NZ-NZC/FLEXI-XD - FLEXI RULES PLUS WORKS DELUXE
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
18 QDLXUF Q X 515.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
19 HDLXUF H X 636.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
20 MDLXUF M X 769.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
21 BDLXUF B X 906.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
22 YDLXUF Y X 1077.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
NZ-NZC/BUSINESS-BU - BUSINESS CLASS FARES
NZ MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
23 DRBIZ D X 1026.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH03
24 CRBIZ C X 1176.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH03
25 CRBIZ C X 1285.00 ---- -/ -/ - EH02
*** BELOW ARE YY NLX FARES MEL-CHC VALID ON NZ ***
YY MELCHC.EH 20JUL12 MPM
V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
26 . HIF H R 1452.00 ---- - -/ - EH04
27 . HIF H O 944.00 ---- - -/ - EH04
28 . DIF D R 2776.00 ---- - -/ - EH04
29 . DIF D O 1805.00 ---- - -/ - EH04
And that is for a 3.20 run on a 160 odd seat aeroplane for stuff all return. Turns the old Shark Patrol into the Berlin Airlift.
What ****** in NZ marketing was clever enough to come out with a system that is so cumbersome that their Agency and Res dudes hate it and I am sure the "who gets what" must be a nightmare for the Cabin Crew.
Good luck on the Sunny Coast NZ, but do realise your biggest negative is your own fare structure.
Best all
EWL
EWL,
Operationally "seats to suit" works really well and is quite easy to manage. Yes is is more complicated but it is hard to argue with the improved results on the Tasman operation! It has gone from negative to positive cash flow
Operationally "seats to suit" works really well and is quite easy to manage. Yes is is more complicated but it is hard to argue with the improved results on the Tasman operation! It has gone from negative to positive cash flow
Actually, its the success of the fare structure thats allowed Air NZ to begin expansion again. It allows a variable number of class of seat, without dedicating X number of seats to any class.
Its actually a fairly clever concept with much more potential.
I have travelled extensively on the Tasman in the last few years. There were a number a teething problems for the first few flights. But from a consumer point of view its all fairly seamless now.
The cabin crew tell me the same.
Whether we like it or not, the world of aviation is continually evolving. Partly driven by shareholder expectation for a good return, partly passenger expectation for cheap flights. As long as were signed up for this model, the drive will continue and we need to find our way to embrace it or spend more time in the garden.
*I dont work for Air NZ!
Its actually a fairly clever concept with much more potential.
I have travelled extensively on the Tasman in the last few years. There were a number a teething problems for the first few flights. But from a consumer point of view its all fairly seamless now.
The cabin crew tell me the same.
Whether we like it or not, the world of aviation is continually evolving. Partly driven by shareholder expectation for a good return, partly passenger expectation for cheap flights. As long as were signed up for this model, the drive will continue and we need to find our way to embrace it or spend more time in the garden.
*I dont work for Air NZ!
From my experience as a Y class pax it is a headache for the CC.
Not to mention by the time I swiped my credit card to buy some Pringles and a Pie they were sold out ( all before top of climb!! ) The CC were embarrassed and used stock meant for the return sector.
Nightmare....
Not to mention by the time I swiped my credit card to buy some Pringles and a Pie they were sold out ( all before top of climb!! ) The CC were embarrassed and used stock meant for the return sector.
Nightmare....
