QEPM just a Guideline
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: krypton
Age: 43
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
QEPM just a Guideline
Well there you have it. In the words of Mr Harris the policy and procedures don't need to be followed they are just a guideline.Although a CASA requirement all can be ignored. YIPEE !
Theft of company property policy - ignore
Equal opportunity & Harrassment policy - ignore
Drugs and Alcohol policy - ignore
Cardinal Rules - ignore
OH&S policies - ignore
The guys been out of his depth for years, now he's proved what we've known all along. QF have never followed their own procedures, they make them up as they go.
Can someone wake up CASA, or are they in the chairmans lounge.
Theft of company property policy - ignore
Equal opportunity & Harrassment policy - ignore
Drugs and Alcohol policy - ignore
Cardinal Rules - ignore
OH&S policies - ignore
The guys been out of his depth for years, now he's proved what we've known all along. QF have never followed their own procedures, they make them up as they go.
Can someone wake up CASA, or are they in the chairmans lounge.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Skating away on the thin ice of a new day.
Posts: 1,116
Received 14 Likes
on
8 Posts
He's saying that the proc's manual only applies to some employees who stuff up, not management if and when they choose not to follow it for whatever reason.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Alabama, then Wyoming, then Idaho and now staying with Kharon on Styx houseboat
Age: 61
Posts: 1,437
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
He's saying that the proc's manual only applies to some employees who stuff up, not management if and when they choose not to follow it for whatever reason.
As a rough guess, I assume it has something to do with:
Qantas under pressure over alleged breaches - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Qantas under pressure over alleged breaches - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bexley
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Qantas has not followed it's own procedures related to Change Management. It forms part of the new CASA Safety Management System that sits in various Qantas Procs manuals.
For Engineering it is the E & M Procs and in all cases requires management to attain a commitment from all stakeholders after consultation and before endorsing the change. The stage puts a fresh set off eyes on human factors issues, training etc... and ensures that all persons associated with the change understand why it is taking place and do not get really fkn pi$$ed off and do bad stuff that could ground an airline.
It is all supported by ISO and EASA standards and is compulsory. So, lets see if CASA also think like Qantas who told us it was just a guideline. The Minister may have to remind them why they put Regs in place.
For Engineering it is the E & M Procs and in all cases requires management to attain a commitment from all stakeholders after consultation and before endorsing the change. The stage puts a fresh set off eyes on human factors issues, training etc... and ensures that all persons associated with the change understand why it is taking place and do not get really fkn pi$$ed off and do bad stuff that could ground an airline.
It is all supported by ISO and EASA standards and is compulsory. So, lets see if CASA also think like Qantas who told us it was just a guideline. The Minister may have to remind them why they put Regs in place.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Alabama, then Wyoming, then Idaho and now staying with Kharon on Styx houseboat
Age: 61
Posts: 1,437
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Elliot Ness and Co
Nobody at QF will get pinged. QF have also spat in the face of the Regulator on matters to do with just about every part of their SMS, just culture, and change management of course.
CASA would not even think of blinking in QF's direction without permission from Albaneses office first, and as If he would give Skull and Co the nod? No chance in hell.
Anybody who doesnt believe QF are untouchable needs their head read.
CASA would not even think of blinking in QF's direction without permission from Albaneses office first, and as If he would give Skull and Co the nod? No chance in hell.
Anybody who doesnt believe QF are untouchable needs their head read.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: On the chopping board.
Posts: 929
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
2 Posts
One thing thats really starting to get on my nerves is where exactly is QSRM in all of this. For an example, look at the A380 modelling. How many B2 guys are there compared to the original system. You train up a few framies who then supposedly know it all in regards to the aircraft, yet the real experienced guys are under-utilised in order to save a couple of bucks. And the same will eventually happen with type-A licences and us B1's. And then there is this LAME-less tarmac fiasco.
I guess it's more important these days to go around auditing toolboxes.....
I guess it's more important these days to go around auditing toolboxes.....
Last edited by Ngineer; 24th Feb 2012 at 00:46.
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: here and there
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
the analogy between the modern bmw and an 800 or 330,
as told by joyce, has clowns like billy shorten and shadow
minister abetz sprouting the same crap through the media.
worse than that, it's comming down the line via nassen into
lmo management ffs. way out of touch with coalface reality.
any news on the qf / casa 'discussions'?
as told by joyce, has clowns like billy shorten and shadow
minister abetz sprouting the same crap through the media.
worse than that, it's comming down the line via nassen into
lmo management ffs. way out of touch with coalface reality.
any news on the qf / casa 'discussions'?