Emirates busts Sydney curfew 3 times
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Yep, really. Why take off after the curfew then……..? You're kidding yourself if you think that expats operate under the same attitudes as they would at home. No union or employment law protections. fact.
It might be law that your not allowed to T/off after curfew but seeing as there is a penalty in monetary terms that's tantamount to saying "but". Taking off after curfew hrs is not a safety related law, it's political promulgated by morons!
'KB' that's pretty hypocritical there "you don't have much sympathy for law breakers'.......our roads have speed limits, they are law also yet they are broken by 99% of the population daily. These are safety related laws yet still only fines apply (mostly). By you speeding ( I bet you do) yr essentially telling the law makers to stick it up their ass, you can't have a bet each way here.
Personally I hope this court case shows to the world how backward we are..........then again you would have had to drop out of the sky from another planet not to know this already!~!
The law is an ass in pretty much most things in life.
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'KB' that's pretty hypocritical there "you don't have much sympathy for law breakers'.......our roads have speed limits, they are law also yet they are broken by 99% of the population daily. These are safety related laws yet still only fines apply (mostly). By you speeding ( I bet you do) yr essentially telling the law makers to stick it up their ass, you can't have a bet each way here.
Personally I hope this court case shows to the world how backward we are..........then again you would have had to drop out of the sky from another planet not to know this already!~!
The law is an ass in pretty much most things in life.
Wmk2
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How about if curfew is busted by more than say five minutes the airline concerned has to cancel the next service (or ten)
That would change the managements ideas about flaunting rules, justified or not!
That would change the managements ideas about flaunting rules, justified or not!
It's all well and good to claim that there were various external factors that weighed into the Emirates situation that led them to break curfew but surely those same factors affected all other operators on the day.
According to the article no other operator had been fined since Jetstar in 2007. So for 5 years these sort of issues would have affected every other operator at SYD but they managed to obey the rules but Emirates HAD to break them 3 times in 14 months.
Seems more like a tactical decision by EK rather than they were left with no other option.
According to the article no other operator had been fined since Jetstar in 2007. So for 5 years these sort of issues would have affected every other operator at SYD but they managed to obey the rules but Emirates HAD to break them 3 times in 14 months.
Seems more like a tactical decision by EK rather than they were left with no other option.
Why isn't PIC charged?
Is there any reason why a PIC hasn't been charged?
The 'operator' can have any turkey in the office try to tell the PIC what to do but at the end of the day the PIC must operate the aircraft within the applicable law.
I remember hearing rumours about the Jetstar incident.
PIC told to go and ops will pay the fine.
So how far do PICs let office staff tell them to break the law?
The 'operator' can have any turkey in the office try to tell the PIC what to do but at the end of the day the PIC must operate the aircraft within the applicable law.
I remember hearing rumours about the Jetstar incident.
PIC told to go and ops will pay the fine.
So how far do PICs let office staff tell them to break the law?
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What about the duty ATC manager? for knowingly allowing their controller to issue a clearance that violates the law......that could be construed as a conspiracy or at the very least entrapment.
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I would say that if it's an operator's decision to go then it's the operator who should be prosecuted. That is a decision made by the prosecuting authority and I would suggest that they understand that little would be gained by prosecuting the PIC.
Family member awaiting an arrival at Sydney Apt advises that a QF flight from Brisbane just missed the curfew and is now heading back. I wonder why they didn't bust the curfew a la Emirates as, being a Friday night, the flight would have been fairly well patronised. It also leaves QF tomorrow with a fleet unit out of position.