JetStar A321 - insufficient stopping distance
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Proper perspective? Relatively minor incident?
Depends on your perspective and what if this A321 crew had needed to stop? Would they have got away with it?
Open reporting is far more beneficial to developing better airmanship amongst all aircrew rather than letting old dogs lie. Learning from our own and others mistakes hopefully avoids repetition.
What can we learn from incident/accident reports?
Seems PPRUNE mods have moved this and other flight safety related threads to Dunnunda or Jet Blast in recent days rather than given it a wider audience.
Open reporting is far more beneficial to developing better airmanship amongst all aircrew rather than letting old dogs lie. Learning from our own and others mistakes hopefully avoids repetition.
What can we learn from incident/accident reports?
Seems PPRUNE mods have moved this and other flight safety related threads to Dunnunda or Jet Blast in recent days rather than given it a wider audience.
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Why am I not surprised
Jetstar response=don't bookmark pages.
proper response= check ALL data correctly (do you think it is not possible for two pilots to turn to full length data page instead of B intersection page at 2am if both t'off points are often used and the crew are not in the practice of checking ALL data)
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Jetstar response=don't bookmark pages.
proper response= check ALL data correctly (do you think it is not possible for two pilots to turn to full length data page instead of B intersection page at 2am if both t'off points are often used and the crew are not in the practice of checking ALL data)
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Jetstar's response not to bookmark pages was I believe correct.
A colleague who had the joy of working pre that year one of the domestic carriers, said that they'd learned the hard way, that if the TOLD card was left in the page used for its completion, there was less chance that the use i=of the wrong page would be brought to light.
If it was good enough for them, then why not JQ?
And to say "check all data correctly", denies the fallibility of the human, regardless of race, colour, creed, or employer.
A colleague who had the joy of working pre that year one of the domestic carriers, said that they'd learned the hard way, that if the TOLD card was left in the page used for its completion, there was less chance that the use i=of the wrong page would be brought to light.
If it was good enough for them, then why not JQ?
And to say "check all data correctly", denies the fallibility of the human, regardless of race, colour, creed, or employer.
While we are on the subject of TO data miscalculations, the final report is out on the Emirates A340 tailstrike incident out of Melb:
Investigation: AO-2009-012 - Tailstrike and runway overrun - Airbus A340-541, A6-ERG, Melbourne Airport, Victoria, 20 March 2009
Planetalking is on to it as well:
Plane Talking
Investigation: AO-2009-012 - Tailstrike and runway overrun - Airbus A340-541, A6-ERG, Melbourne Airport, Victoria, 20 March 2009
Planetalking is on to it as well:
Plane Talking
