Fun and Games on QF32
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Fun and Games on QF32
From today's Sun Herald:
A QANTAS pilot is under investigation over a mile-high scandal with a female passenger during a long-haul flight to Australia.
Passengers in the first class section of QF32 from London were stunned at the pilot's amorous antics with the woman, the Herald Sun reported.
He was seen sitting on her lap during the flight in the luxurious premium section of the Qantas A380 jet before things became quite steamy, sources told the Herald Sun.
The seat has privacy walls and reclines to become a bed. The pilot was off-duty and not in uniform at the time of the incident.
He was scolded twice by crew as passengers became annoyed at the public display of affection, sources said.
After the flood of complaints, the pilot shifted to economy.
Qantas said an investigation was under way that could cost the pilot his $240,000-a-year job.
The female passenger left the flight in Singapore and the pilot returned to the first-class cabin.
It was unclear whether the pilot knew the woman before boarding the flight, or if he was intoxicated.
First-class passengers are entitled to a range of wines, spirits and beers.
The pilot stayed on the flight, which landed in Sydney at 8.10pm on Friday.
A Qantas spokeswoman confirmed there was an incident.
"Qantas is aware of an incident involving a travelling crew member on board QF32. The matter is being investigated internally in line with Qantas policy," the spokeswoman said.
"Interaction of that nature is something that wouldn't be sanctioned."
The Australian and International Pilots Association has vowed to defend the pilot.
AIPA vice-president Captain Richard Woodward said he was aware of the incident and was gathering more detail.
"The rights of this member, like any other, will be defended by AIPA should the need arise," he said.
It is not the first time that amorous behaviour on a Qantas flight has hit the headlines.
Actor Ralph Fiennes was sprung in a tryst with former Qantas hostess Lisa Robertson in January 2007.
A QANTAS pilot is under investigation over a mile-high scandal with a female passenger during a long-haul flight to Australia.
Passengers in the first class section of QF32 from London were stunned at the pilot's amorous antics with the woman, the Herald Sun reported.
He was seen sitting on her lap during the flight in the luxurious premium section of the Qantas A380 jet before things became quite steamy, sources told the Herald Sun.
The seat has privacy walls and reclines to become a bed. The pilot was off-duty and not in uniform at the time of the incident.
He was scolded twice by crew as passengers became annoyed at the public display of affection, sources said.
After the flood of complaints, the pilot shifted to economy.
Qantas said an investigation was under way that could cost the pilot his $240,000-a-year job.
The female passenger left the flight in Singapore and the pilot returned to the first-class cabin.
It was unclear whether the pilot knew the woman before boarding the flight, or if he was intoxicated.
First-class passengers are entitled to a range of wines, spirits and beers.
The pilot stayed on the flight, which landed in Sydney at 8.10pm on Friday.
A Qantas spokeswoman confirmed there was an incident.
"Qantas is aware of an incident involving a travelling crew member on board QF32. The matter is being investigated internally in line with Qantas policy," the spokeswoman said.
"Interaction of that nature is something that wouldn't be sanctioned."
The Australian and International Pilots Association has vowed to defend the pilot.
AIPA vice-president Captain Richard Woodward said he was aware of the incident and was gathering more detail.
"The rights of this member, like any other, will be defended by AIPA should the need arise," he said.
It is not the first time that amorous behaviour on a Qantas flight has hit the headlines.
Actor Ralph Fiennes was sprung in a tryst with former Qantas hostess Lisa Robertson in January 2007.
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QF must be feeling the heat, crappy story wheeled out by OW to discredit pilots again. The Pilot who was off duty and not in uniform, geez how did the media pick this story up I wonder.......
You would expect the bloke to suffer the same treatment as BB, promotion and a very large pay increase.
Btw I thought all Qantas pilots were on 500K a year , why is he only on half that much?👮
Btw I thought all Qantas pilots were on 500K a year , why is he only on half that much?👮
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How'd the pax know he was a pilot if he was off duty and out of uniform? How do they know the woman wasn't his partner? And most of all, who gives a crap if he was sitting on her lap, seriously Quite different to taking a hostie into the lavatory a la Fiennes...
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Buy that man a beer!!
I know that many will shocked at my comment but 'Mr Pilot, well done'!
Why not I say? I mean seriously, big deal, if you can get a shot away why not? Hell, if I had been a pax I would have enjoyed the show, much better than IFE or listening to kids crying.
This is 2011, life is short and stress reigns supreme, we all need a little 'QF 32' in our lives!! Well done Mr Pilot you brought a smile to my face and a tingle to my.......
Everybody, live life and enjoy life, when the urges of nature call then go for it. Maybe society in general don't approve and nor do QF management, but who cares. Everyone go forth and have a 'QF 32'!
Why not I say? I mean seriously, big deal, if you can get a shot away why not? Hell, if I had been a pax I would have enjoyed the show, much better than IFE or listening to kids crying.
This is 2011, life is short and stress reigns supreme, we all need a little 'QF 32' in our lives!! Well done Mr Pilot you brought a smile to my face and a tingle to my.......
Everybody, live life and enjoy life, when the urges of nature call then go for it. Maybe society in general don't approve and nor do QF management, but who cares. Everyone go forth and have a 'QF 32'!
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If he was out of uniform and off duty is it really such a big deal?
Just a reminder:
Qantas inquiry into first-class footsies - Travel - theage.com.au
A SENIOR Jetstar executive has been accused of engaging in 'funny business" with a woman on a fold-down seat in the first-class cabin of a flight from Melbourne to Los Angeles on Friday.
Bruce Buchanan, the airline's commercial general manager, was on Qantas Flight 93 to the US when the incident allegedly took place. After the lights went down on the 14-hour trip, a woman apparently moved to share his seat.
Another first-class passenger complained to a flight attendant, according to people in the cabin at the time.
Sources on the flight said it was not clear what was going on but there was no suggestion the pair were having sex. "It was just funny business," one source said.
It is unclear whether cuddling constitutes a breach of strict behavioural guidelines which apply to airline employees but the incident was enough for staff on the flight to prepare a report for Qantas management.
It raises questions about the behaviour of Jetstar employees, including senior executives such as Mr Buchanan, travelling on discounted staff flights.
Staff must wear "appropriate" clothes, not jeans, and show exemplary behaviour.
Last week Qantas, the parent company of Jetstar, was forced to reinstate
a cabin supervisor sacked for breaching policy by taking chocolate-covered macadamia nuts from a flight.
The cabin steward, Philip Woodward-Brown, had been stood down immediately after the offending nuts were discovered on his person during a routine security check in Tokyo last year.
When the incident took place on Friday, Mr Buchanan was travelling to Los Angeles for a holiday.
A Jetstar spokesman confirmed last night the incident was being investigated but said the airline was yet to speak to Mr Buchanan about the complaint.
"We do not believe the event was of a serious nature. A full investigation will take place but we obviously want to hear Mr Buchanan's side of the story," the spokesman said.
Qantas also confirmed that it was investigating the incident but said it did not appear to be a serious offence.
Mr Buchanan, who could not be reached for comment, is due back from his holiday next week.
Bruce Buchanan, the airline's commercial general manager, was on Qantas Flight 93 to the US when the incident allegedly took place. After the lights went down on the 14-hour trip, a woman apparently moved to share his seat.
Another first-class passenger complained to a flight attendant, according to people in the cabin at the time.
Sources on the flight said it was not clear what was going on but there was no suggestion the pair were having sex. "It was just funny business," one source said.
It is unclear whether cuddling constitutes a breach of strict behavioural guidelines which apply to airline employees but the incident was enough for staff on the flight to prepare a report for Qantas management.
It raises questions about the behaviour of Jetstar employees, including senior executives such as Mr Buchanan, travelling on discounted staff flights.
Staff must wear "appropriate" clothes, not jeans, and show exemplary behaviour.
Last week Qantas, the parent company of Jetstar, was forced to reinstate
a cabin supervisor sacked for breaching policy by taking chocolate-covered macadamia nuts from a flight.
The cabin steward, Philip Woodward-Brown, had been stood down immediately after the offending nuts were discovered on his person during a routine security check in Tokyo last year.
When the incident took place on Friday, Mr Buchanan was travelling to Los Angeles for a holiday.
A Jetstar spokesman confirmed last night the incident was being investigated but said the airline was yet to speak to Mr Buchanan about the complaint.
"We do not believe the event was of a serious nature. A full investigation will take place but we obviously want to hear Mr Buchanan's side of the story," the spokesman said.
Qantas also confirmed that it was investigating the incident but said it did not appear to be a serious offence.
Mr Buchanan, who could not be reached for comment, is due back from his holiday next week.
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Drat. I'd always wanted save the Bruce Buchanan defence for something that I had done wrong and this guy is going to go and use it up. I reckon the response should be 'guilty your honour, I'll take the same punishment that Bruce Buchanan got'. I mean, QF is all about 'natural justice'.
Mind you, it's disgraceful that something like this gets into the press.
Mind you, it's disgraceful that something like this gets into the press.
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Wait until it gets really dramatised and we read about the 'giant airliner hurtling to oblivion through the stormy tropical skies after the pilot changed into plain clothes and abandoned his post at the controls to enjoy fun and games with a female passenger half his age .....'
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Pull Up Terrain said "If he was out of uniform and off duty is it really such a big deal?"
This person must have been a QF Captain since they are the only Pilot group able to buy staff travel First class. When a QF Capt pays a little over $1000 for a return flight to LHR in F class, and then de-values the product by behaving in such a manner, well, I'm afraid he/she certainly deserves to get sacked and the Company should now review who is entitled to F class. Even a full fare F class pax would find themselves in trouble, let alone staff travel pax. What a mentality on the part of that Pilot and its further evidence that some QF Pilots think the sun shines out of their ass!
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This person must have been a QF Captain since they are the only Pilot group able to buy staff travel First class. When a QF Capt pays a little over $1000 for a return flight to LHR in F class, and then de-values the product by behaving in such a manner, well, I'm afraid he/she certainly deserves to get sacked and the Company should now review who is entitled to F class. Even a full fare F class pax would find themselves in trouble, let alone staff travel pax. What a mentality on the part of that Pilot and its further evidence that some QF Pilots think the sun shines out of their ass!
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A Qantas spokeswoman confirmed there was an incident.
"Qantas is aware of an incident involving a travelling crew member on board QF32. The matter is being investigated internally in line with Qantas policy," the spokeswoman said.
"Qantas is aware of an incident involving a travelling crew member on board QF32. The matter is being investigated internally in line with Qantas policy," the spokeswoman said.
This person must have been a QF Captain...... What a mentality on the part of that Pilot and its further evidence that some QF Pilots think the sun shines out of their ass!
Not even the wirthless spokesmodel said anything about Staff Travel!
Now let's hear more about BB's escapades. What's good for the Bruce is good for the remainder.
What a mentality on the part of that Pilot and its further evidence that some QF Pilots think the sun shines out of their ass!
I would suggest also that the ratio of those that believe they're responsible for the sunrise and those that haven't even given that a thought, is no greater in Qantas than any other organisation.
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So if that's what this is all about, why would the pilot involved supply such easy ammunition to the company? Especially when the pilots union is in current negotiations regarding access to entitlements which include first class!
Was he being deliberately provocative to the process, or just dumb??
Was he being deliberately provocative to the process, or just dumb??