Qantas:After The Dust Has Settled
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Qantas kicks another goal.
Surely this would be the last thing you'd want? Does the union have deep enough pockets for a protracted legal headache? Will the union come out un scathed during the Discovery?
As some of you are waking up to Qantas have clearly been plotting these union smashing tactics for some time it seems and are well prepared. Looks like they are working too.
The general public are now viewing the unions as 'millitant' too, which can hardly help.
When all of the fist pumping rhetoric and threats die down you have got a major court case on your hands.
Can Qantas kick another goal?
As some of you are waking up to Qantas have clearly been plotting these union smashing tactics for some time it seems and are well prepared. Looks like they are working too.
The general public are now viewing the unions as 'millitant' too, which can hardly help.
When all of the fist pumping rhetoric and threats die down you have got a major court case on your hands.
Can Qantas kick another goal?
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Maybe JST. They have the money, power and have used unbalanced laws to their advantage.
The senate inquiry and any conclusions may make the industrial battle more interesting.
Arbitration takes into account the willingness of the parties to negotiate in good faith and current agreements amongst other factors. It wont be a one way battle and I hope not one of financial attrition. That should not be part of the law but sadly can often be so.
The senate inquiry and any conclusions may make the industrial battle more interesting.
Arbitration takes into account the willingness of the parties to negotiate in good faith and current agreements amongst other factors. It wont be a one way battle and I hope not one of financial attrition. That should not be part of the law but sadly can often be so.
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The TWU need to tone it down a little and follow the lead of the Apia and lame's because they will get the public offside and all three will be tarred with the one brush.
This is exactly what has been happening so far. And it will not work.
This is exactly what has been happening so far. And it will not work.
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Why would Tony Sheldon what to tone things down when his sole aim is to ensure his nest is well feathered and thus ensure he reaches his goal of entering politics at the highest position he can possibly achieve.... at the expence of the union members who pay their dues expecting representation of "their" cause, not Tony's.
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The union you would think would have their house in order? Qantas clearly have theirs sorted. You don't employ tactics like they have without clean hands.
Someone will receive a very public dacking it seems. I just hope it doesn't cost too many jobs.
Someone will receive a very public dacking it seems. I just hope it doesn't cost too many jobs.
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Hi guys,
How's the trolling going? If I may, you probably need to brush up on a few things
The Subtle Art of Trolling
Also, I think to be an effective troll, you need to include an element of truth in your posts. Things like
and you've already lost the audience. You guys have the whole Qantas PR machine at your finger tips, so it shouldn't be hard to dig up something factual. Oh ... ok, well just try and tone down the bull$hit.
Now, go back and try again.
PS
Shouldn't be too many, the CEO and Board should just about do it.
How's the trolling going? If I may, you probably need to brush up on a few things
The Subtle Art of Trolling
Also, I think to be an effective troll, you need to include an element of truth in your posts. Things like
The union you would think would have their house in order? Qantas clearly have theirs sorted.
You don't employ tactics like they have without clean hands.
The general public are now viewing the unions as 'millitant' too, which can hardly help.
Now, go back and try again.
PS
I just hope it doesn't cost too many jobs.
Nunc est bibendum
I just hope it doesn't cost too many jobs.
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Hi JST,
How's the trolling going? I think you might need to brush up a bit. Try and include some element of truth in your posts. Things like
and you've immediately lost your audience. You guys have the whole Qantas PR machine at your finger tips so try and dig up something accurate and truthful to include in your posts. Oh .... ok, well just tone down the bull$hit then.
PS
Shouldn't be too many. The CEO and Board should just about do it.
How's the trolling going? I think you might need to brush up a bit. Try and include some element of truth in your posts. Things like
The general public are now viewing the unions as 'millitant' too, which can hardly help.
The union you would think would have their house in order? Qantas clearly have theirs sorted.
You don't employ tactics like they have without clean hands.
PS
I just hope it doesn't cost too many jobs.
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As a professional in main stream media I have to tell you your views are and I'm sorry to be blunt, utter BS.
Kremin, note carefully the "professional in the main stream media" - perhaps not a journo, but a spin doctor. I wonder if this professional is using a male pseudonym for reason? Do we have Olivia in the house?
Its all about mis/dis-information & misdirection.
Surely this would be the last thing you'd want?
Does the union have deep enough pockets for a protracted legal headache?
Will the union come out un scathed during the Discovery?
As some of you are waking up to Qantas have clearly been plotting these union smashing tactics for some time it seems and are well prepared. Looks like they are working too.
The general public are now viewing the unions as 'millitant' too, which can hardly help. Can Qantas kick another goal?.
Congratulations. Nice Job.
Qantas makes hash of tweet campaign
Alicia Wood
November 22, 2011 - 1:51PM
A hijacked hashtag is the latest PR disaster to hit Qantas.
At midday, the Qantas PR team operating the @QantasAirways twitter account, sent out a call for luxury flying experiences.
This came after months of negative publicity stemming from industrial disputes with three unions, that resulted in the grounding of the entire Qantas fleet on October 29.
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The idea, it seems, was to reward a winning tweet with a Qantas first class gift pack.
The prize for tweeting good things about the embattled airline was a pair of Qantas pyjamas, and a "luxury amenity kit".
"To enter tell us 'What is your dream luxury inflight experience? (Be creative!) Answer must include #QantasLuxury."
Within an hour, the hashtag was trending across the country, but the tweets were not quite what management expected.
@GrogsGamut tweeted: "#QantasLuxury- when the passengers arrive before the couriers delivering the lockout notices do".
@aptronym said: "Getting from A to B without the plane being grounded or an engine catching fire. #qantasluxury".
And @the-aaron-smith said: "#qantasluxury is chartering a Greyhound bus and arriving at your destination days before your grounded Qantas flight".
Social media expert James Griffin from SR7 said that by about 1pm, Australians were sending out 51 tweets a minute on the hashtag. The majority of these were tweets making fun of the idea of #qantasluxury.
"Firstly, timing went completely out the window with this campaign," Mr Griffin said, referring to Qantas management walking away from negotiations with the Transport Workers Union and Australian and International Pilots Association yesterday.
"First and foremost, there should have been further consideration by the social media team about the sensitivities of the day," he said.
"This is a prime example of how consumers and the community can take control of a campaign or a brand through social media - evidenced by the speed and ferocity of tweets.
"Consideration should have been given to what Qantas and consumers have been through in the past couple of months."
Qantas has not responded to requests for comment.
Read more: #QantasLuxury Twitter campaign backfires on Qantas
Alicia Wood
November 22, 2011 - 1:51PM
A hijacked hashtag is the latest PR disaster to hit Qantas.
At midday, the Qantas PR team operating the @QantasAirways twitter account, sent out a call for luxury flying experiences.
This came after months of negative publicity stemming from industrial disputes with three unions, that resulted in the grounding of the entire Qantas fleet on October 29.
Advertisement: Story continues below
The idea, it seems, was to reward a winning tweet with a Qantas first class gift pack.
The prize for tweeting good things about the embattled airline was a pair of Qantas pyjamas, and a "luxury amenity kit".
"To enter tell us 'What is your dream luxury inflight experience? (Be creative!) Answer must include #QantasLuxury."
Within an hour, the hashtag was trending across the country, but the tweets were not quite what management expected.
@GrogsGamut tweeted: "#QantasLuxury- when the passengers arrive before the couriers delivering the lockout notices do".
@aptronym said: "Getting from A to B without the plane being grounded or an engine catching fire. #qantasluxury".
And @the-aaron-smith said: "#qantasluxury is chartering a Greyhound bus and arriving at your destination days before your grounded Qantas flight".
Social media expert James Griffin from SR7 said that by about 1pm, Australians were sending out 51 tweets a minute on the hashtag. The majority of these were tweets making fun of the idea of #qantasluxury.
"Firstly, timing went completely out the window with this campaign," Mr Griffin said, referring to Qantas management walking away from negotiations with the Transport Workers Union and Australian and International Pilots Association yesterday.
"First and foremost, there should have been further consideration by the social media team about the sensitivities of the day," he said.
"This is a prime example of how consumers and the community can take control of a campaign or a brand through social media - evidenced by the speed and ferocity of tweets.
"Consideration should have been given to what Qantas and consumers have been through in the past couple of months."
Qantas has not responded to requests for comment.
Read more: #QantasLuxury Twitter campaign backfires on Qantas
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Qantas:After The Dust Has Settled
The negotiations between Qantas and the three unions has been acrimonious But what of the relationship after arbitration is concluded?
The situation has soured to a point where redemption is seen by many as impossible.
Simply working to rule or not going the extra yard will have a negative effect on the business.Sick leave will surely rise.Fuel burn rates will increase.
Qantas may win the war but it will definitely lose rthe peace.
The airline relies heavily on the goodwill of its employees.That goodwill is now non existent
The situation has soured to a point where redemption is seen by many as impossible.
Simply working to rule or not going the extra yard will have a negative effect on the business.Sick leave will surely rise.Fuel burn rates will increase.
Qantas may win the war but it will definitely lose rthe peace.
The airline relies heavily on the goodwill of its employees.That goodwill is now non existent
Qantas is finished without a Board spill and the removal of at least Joyce.
Qantas demonstrated that it puts profit before people by the grounding. It can't be trusted ever again without maximum effort to restore trust - starting with removal of the Board.
Qantas demonstrated that it puts profit before people by the grounding. It can't be trusted ever again without maximum effort to restore trust - starting with removal of the Board.
Sunfish you are 110% correct. The question is when will the instos wake up and realise that if things dont change that $1.57 was a really good price and its all downhill from here. At next years AGM if these clowns are still running the airline what excuses will they wheel out. I know, its the unions!!!
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At next years AGM if these clowns are still running the airline what excuses will they wheel out. I know, its the unions!!!
