QF end Game???

[NewPiper]

Keg,

You are right, but sometimes, you just gotta buy when people are selling and vice versa. People on pprune that keep saying airline investors/traders are d!ckheads are probably the same morons that have threatened PIA whilst asking for out-dated practices and ridiculous job security to continue forever. Had they used some of those big PIA kahuna’s and bought some Qantas stock when because of their very own actions, the shares were selling for ‘buy one and get one for free’, they would be richer today, but for their tunnel vision, it wasn't to be!

NP

[Cactusjack]

Warren Buffet has some very interesting advice to offer on the topic of buying airline shares. You can research it yourselves, but as most know airline shares are ****e.
NewPiper you either a Troll from Mascot or you have been smoking too much ganja from an old pipe, either way you are a nupty, so toddle off now, and please give Livvy a kiss for me, that sexy mamacita who is pert, proud and pristine......I reckon her feet are probably size 7 and she paints her toenails 'gothic black', mmmmm I like that mama.

[QF94]

give Livvy a kiss for me, that sexy mamacita who is pert, proud and pristine......I reckon her feet are probably size 7 and she paints her toenails 'gothic black', mmmmm I like that mama.

Hmmmmm. Strange fantasy, but each to their own.

It would be wonderful if everyone at Qantas just point blank refused to go to work for these guys. Finish the brand on a high.

V-Jet, morale may be at an all time low, but the determination of the staff is at a level I have not seen in a long time. The "brand" is at an all time low, but the professionalism to get the job done is well and truly intact. All the staff I deal with in all sections have one thing in common. That is F**K AJ and the board, and may they choke on their ill-gotten gains.

There are many proud people in QANTAS that can hold their heads high, despite what happens. I just hope the board can find the same quality of employees at the discounts they are hoping to achieve, but seeing what we are losing and what is going to be acquired, this will not be the case.

Bye Bye Qantas. I have owed you everything. Thank you.

We're not gone yet, as there is still fight left in us yet. The Spirit of Australia is what the workers are about, and what has made QANTAS over the last 91 years. Not the dozen bad eggs that occupy Coward St in Mascot!

[Ka.Boom]

Money in Search of a Home

Despite the worlds financial woes there is still a lot of money around looking for a home.The New York based Capital Group obviously sees some upside in gaining greater equity in Qantas.Airline shares are notoriously poor performers and Qantas hasn't offered a dividend in years.Investments such as this tend to be long term so they are taking an informed punt and feel that over time Qantas is a good purchase.This probably means that they will lose less by parking funds here when viewed in terms of the alternatives
Joyce's new found strut tends to suggest good news maybe on the way.Good news for Joyce but not necessarily Qantas and its long suffering employees

[BP2197]

If QF Int made a $200m loss last year how is this year looking so far? And if it is worse what will be the implications of that?

[QF94]

If QF Int made a $200m loss last year how is this year looking so far? And if it is worse what will be the implications of that?

Hard to tell what the figure is so far or what it will blow out to next year according to AJ. But using his estimates that up until the AGM IA had cost $68million.

The "det by a tousand cuts" was supposedly costing $15million a week, but AJ's hissy fit was costing $20million a day.

Using the above figures, we're already well over the $100million figure for this financial year alone, of which the majority proportion will more than likely be allocated to QANTAS International.

How do I come to this conclusion? The same way AJ came to the conclusion that QANTAS International was losing $216million a year.

The implications will be QANTAS International shrunk to make way for JQ expansion.

[Sunfish]

I'm sick of this "airlines aren't a good investment" bullshyte.

Airlines are a very, very good investment if you can buy one CHEAP!

Qantas pulled a $500 million profit out of its backside. Whether that is "Good" or "bad" depends on what I paid to own the airline. For example, If I bought the airline for $2 billion and have no debt, then that profit is a 25% return!

Don't you understand? The "end game" involves the APA bidders buying the airline for a song and laughing all the way to the bank.

[fishers.ghost]

Fatcats Buy In

Qantas' low-flying stock appeals to its directors. Photo: Jason South
NEARLY half the Qantas Airways board has bought shares in the company this month.
Interests associated with John Schubert, a non-executive director, have been the latest buyer, spending $99,999, while Leigh Clifford, the chairman, last week boosted his stake threefold by spending $163,000.
Garry Hounsell spent $59,213, Paul Rayner outlaid $79,500 and at the beginning of the month Patricia Cross spent $31,800.
Do they have knowledge that the market doesn't?

[gobbledock]

Could be the old smoke n mirrors act. The execs buy a few shares, makes the investors think 'well if the execs are buying and are confident in the product it must be a good investment', hence they continue the game. The reality is the execs have only bought small parcels, and even if the share price tanks lower it doesn't matter as they are all going to hit paydirt when a buyer comes in and snaps up the airline.
It's all a game whatever the execs do, a game designed to male themselves excessively wealthy at the behest of anyone or anybody else.