Hero pilot Richard de Crespigny takes sides with Qantas in IR war
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8 % of what ??? And for how many hours. You want it ?? Then go, you can have it. 90 + hours a month, one night in Houston or New York after a 14 hours flight...... To end up living in a crappy place where your wife goes crazy from boredom.....you're going to love it.
I've worked in Dubaļ, I fly there all the time and anyone living in Oz has to be ttalky skull fractured to go and work there.
First class on duty....'no , only too normal....... and no, they get buisiness.......once a year when flying back home. The rest is stand by cattle class.
Bonus ???? Guess what ? The compagny made money !
I've worked in Dubaļ, I fly there all the time and anyone living in Oz has to be ttalky skull fractured to go and work there.
First class on duty....'no , only too normal....... and no, they get buisiness.......once a year when flying back home. The rest is stand by cattle class.
Bonus ???? Guess what ? The compagny made money !
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Hope your first act after shutdown and brakes parked is to erase the voice recorder for your sake dutchroll! Private cockpit conversations could be damaging in these times.
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Hope your first act after shutdown and brakes parked is to erase the voice recorder for your sake dutchroll! Private cockpit conversations could be damaging in these times.
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8 % of what ??? And for how many hours. You want it ?? Then go, you can have it. 90 + hours a month, one night in Houston or New York after a 14 hours flight...... To end up living in a crappy place where your wife goes crazy from boredom.....you're going to love it.
I've worked in Dubaļ, I fly there all the time and anyone living in Oz has to be ttalky skull fractured to go and work there.
First class on duty....'no , only too normal....... and no, they get buisiness.......once a year when flying back home. The rest is stand by cattle class.
Bonus ???? Guess what ? The compagny made money !
I've worked in Dubaļ, I fly there all the time and anyone living in Oz has to be ttalky skull fractured to go and work there.
First class on duty....'no , only too normal....... and no, they get buisiness.......once a year when flying back home. The rest is stand by cattle class.
Bonus ???? Guess what ? The compagny made money !
So tell me, how are pilot T & C's part of the lower cost base of both Emirates & Singapore Airlines?
First class on duty....'no , only too normal....... and no, they get buisiness.......once a year when flying back home. The rest is stand by cattle class.
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"What about the PI standing behind you?"
Utter garbage. Even if that was true, what would be the point? QF management are under no illusions as to the majority opinion of their pilot employees. Whilst they are pretty good at wasting money on full page ads and other expensive PR, they don't need to waste money on private investigators.
Utter garbage. Even if that was true, what would be the point? QF management are under no illusions as to the majority opinion of their pilot employees. Whilst they are pretty good at wasting money on full page ads and other expensive PR, they don't need to waste money on private investigators.
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Aussie Tabloid Media calling him a hero. Did he put his life on the line to save others. I doubt it.
By all accounts he did a good job and landed the plane safely and justified his high salary.
What a thing for him to say to the media.
I trust his A380 command is safe and will continue to be based in Australia, on his legacy salary he has recieved for his XXX number of years hes worked for QF. While he thinks its time EVERYONE ELSE to take a huge pay cut and live in Asia for the remainder of their working careers.
Unbelievable attitude, who is this guy?, sounds like hes been scripted by joyce. Does he get an extra pay check for his comments.
By all accounts he did a good job and landed the plane safely and justified his high salary.
What a thing for him to say to the media.
I trust his A380 command is safe and will continue to be based in Australia, on his legacy salary he has recieved for his XXX number of years hes worked for QF. While he thinks its time EVERYONE ELSE to take a huge pay cut and live in Asia for the remainder of their working careers.
Unbelievable attitude, who is this guy?, sounds like hes been scripted by joyce. Does he get an extra pay check for his comments.
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Interesting to hear what the gingerbeers have to say with his take on engineering
short flights long nights
Can someone post this article please?
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If you fully support the direction nob jockey then why not put your money where your mouth is and tell Allan you will be quite satisfied dropping your salary now to $60,000 p/a. to lower his cost base to save Qantas.
To not to would mean you have no integrity and are full of ****e !
To not to would mean you have no integrity and are full of ****e !
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Lucky it was on news.com site no one on the net will pay to read it all
Can someone post this article please?
Wow, lucky it was on a pay News com site, no one on the net will pay for it, to read the whole story anyway......
A birdie tells me the Australian's online hits have plummeted since the pay thing was introduced. Feels like a possible Qantas generated, News.Ltd in house collaboration to plant the story.... in a word, "setup..."
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Tony alder of Bribane Posted at 8:14 AM Today
Congratulations to Capt Crespigny. A brave man in saying what he felt was sensible and obvious to the outside world of International flying. I have been a pilot for 40 years and flown Internationally for some 25 of those years and agree totally that if Qantas pilots don't realize they live in a very competitive world, particularly within Asia they will eventually be naturally forced into unemployment. The aviation industry is one of the most difficult professions to be in and one can't rest on a "public service " type mentality in assuming that The world owes them the opportunity and security for a life time regardless of economic conditions. The Airline pilot is a professional, Qantas pilots need to set the example.
Tony alder of Bribane Posted at 8:14 AM Today
Congratulations to Capt Crespigny. A brave man in saying what he felt was sensible and obvious to the outside world of International flying. I have been a pilot for 40 years and flown Internationally for some 25 of those years and agree totally that if Qantas pilots don't realize they live in a very competitive world, particularly within Asia they will eventually be naturally forced into unemployment. The aviation industry is one of the most difficult professions to be in and one can't rest on a "public service " type mentality in assuming that The world owes them the opportunity and security for a life time regardless of economic conditions. The Airline pilot is a professional, Qantas pilots need to set the example.
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Hero pilot Richard de Crespigny takes sides with Qantas in IR war 
Veteran Qantas pilot Richard de Crespigny, at his home in Sydney yesterday, says the airline's future lies in Asia and some jobs may have to go offshore. Picture: Alan Pryke Source: The Australian
HERO pilot Richard de Crespigny has broken ranks with his Qantas colleagues by calling for an end to "legacy practices" and declaring the airline's future lies in Asia.
The captain, who coolly landed a packed A-380 "super-jumbo" following an engine explosion after taking off from Singapore last year, has revealed that he has not joined in the pilots' industrial action against the airline, even though he belongs to the long-haul pilots' union.
As the pilot and engineering unions wage war with Qantas over job security, Captain de Crespigny told The Australian yesterday that "no pilot has job security", and he suggested that some maintenance work might need to be carried out overseas.
"I expect Qantas management to structure the business to enable a long-term competitive advantage," he said.
"If we have a higher cost base than our competitors, then we need to be more efficient. The opportunity to move some of the services into Asia where the market is booming, and have a hub and spoke (operation) out of Asia, makes sense. This growth will open up opportunities for pilots and engineers."
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Captain de Crespigny's comments clash with those of pilots union vice-president, Richard Woodward -- a fellow veteran Qantas captain -- who warned in August that "the road is paved with the tombstones of companies that have tried and failed, and we don't want Qantas to be one of them".
Captain de Crespigny said he believed 10 per cent of Qantas engineering was already done offshore, with Rolls-Royce carrying out the major servicing of engines in the A-380 fleet.
"I absolutely support Australian jobs but you can't necessarily expect 100 per cent of work to be conducted in Australia," he said.
"Some of the engineering practices we require are specialised and may need to be done overseas. Anyone who touches a Qantas aeroplane has an internationally recognised and audited licence so their qualification is of the highest standard."
A year ago, Captain de Crespigny saved 462 passengers and crew by safely landing a stricken Qantas A-380 aircraft after its engine blew up over an Indonesian island.
The pilots' union is citing the Qantas captain's "professionalism under pressure" in its current industrial campaign, which demands the airline always employs Qantas pilots.
The long-haul pilots' union yesterday launched a legal challenge to Fair Work Australia's termination of its protected industrial action, in which pilots have worn red ties and made in-flight announcements asking passengers to help "keep Qantas pilots in Qantas aircraft".
Captain de Crespigny said he was a member of the Australian and International Pilots Association, but did not take part in the industrial campaign.
"No pilot has job security," he said. "I never presume that I have job security. My job is to fly the plane so the passengers are safe.
"We must do the best we can to ensure the company benefits."
Captain de Crespigny refused to comment on last month's Qantas grounding or the dispute before Fair Work Australia, but said the airline had to "evolve" and "look at every cost".
"Qantas has been around for 90 years and we have to get rid of the old legacy practices," he said. "We don't use manual typewriters any more. We are flying the most modern aircraft in the world."
Captain de Crespigny said employees could not "take our business for granted".
"The rules have changed. Qantas operates overseas where the playing fields are not level in terms of politics, economics, industrial relations and exchange rates, so it's very difficult to maintain a sustainable competitive advantage.
"It's like a rugby game where both sides are playing using a different set of rules."
Captain de Crespigny said some Qantas pilots might wish to "transfer to Asia".
"I think there are good business reasons for using existing Qantas pilots who perhaps may wish to move to where the growth potential is," he said.
"There is no assumption that pay and conditions would change.
"The supply of pilots will not be sufficient in Asia to meet demand . . . there will be so much demand that I think salaries may go up . . . Qantas engineers and pilots are up there with the rest of the world and will be highly sought after."
- by: Natasha Bita, Consumer editor
- From:The Australian
- November 11, 201112:00AM
- 28 comments
Veteran Qantas pilot Richard de Crespigny, at his home in Sydney yesterday, says the airline's future lies in Asia and some jobs may have to go offshore. Picture: Alan Pryke Source: The Australian
HERO pilot Richard de Crespigny has broken ranks with his Qantas colleagues by calling for an end to "legacy practices" and declaring the airline's future lies in Asia.
The captain, who coolly landed a packed A-380 "super-jumbo" following an engine explosion after taking off from Singapore last year, has revealed that he has not joined in the pilots' industrial action against the airline, even though he belongs to the long-haul pilots' union.
As the pilot and engineering unions wage war with Qantas over job security, Captain de Crespigny told The Australian yesterday that "no pilot has job security", and he suggested that some maintenance work might need to be carried out overseas.
"I expect Qantas management to structure the business to enable a long-term competitive advantage," he said.
"If we have a higher cost base than our competitors, then we need to be more efficient. The opportunity to move some of the services into Asia where the market is booming, and have a hub and spoke (operation) out of Asia, makes sense. This growth will open up opportunities for pilots and engineers."
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Captain de Crespigny's comments clash with those of pilots union vice-president, Richard Woodward -- a fellow veteran Qantas captain -- who warned in August that "the road is paved with the tombstones of companies that have tried and failed, and we don't want Qantas to be one of them".
Captain de Crespigny said he believed 10 per cent of Qantas engineering was already done offshore, with Rolls-Royce carrying out the major servicing of engines in the A-380 fleet.
"I absolutely support Australian jobs but you can't necessarily expect 100 per cent of work to be conducted in Australia," he said.
"Some of the engineering practices we require are specialised and may need to be done overseas. Anyone who touches a Qantas aeroplane has an internationally recognised and audited licence so their qualification is of the highest standard."
A year ago, Captain de Crespigny saved 462 passengers and crew by safely landing a stricken Qantas A-380 aircraft after its engine blew up over an Indonesian island.
The pilots' union is citing the Qantas captain's "professionalism under pressure" in its current industrial campaign, which demands the airline always employs Qantas pilots.
The long-haul pilots' union yesterday launched a legal challenge to Fair Work Australia's termination of its protected industrial action, in which pilots have worn red ties and made in-flight announcements asking passengers to help "keep Qantas pilots in Qantas aircraft".
Captain de Crespigny said he was a member of the Australian and International Pilots Association, but did not take part in the industrial campaign.
"No pilot has job security," he said. "I never presume that I have job security. My job is to fly the plane so the passengers are safe.
"We must do the best we can to ensure the company benefits."
Captain de Crespigny refused to comment on last month's Qantas grounding or the dispute before Fair Work Australia, but said the airline had to "evolve" and "look at every cost".
"Qantas has been around for 90 years and we have to get rid of the old legacy practices," he said. "We don't use manual typewriters any more. We are flying the most modern aircraft in the world."
Captain de Crespigny said employees could not "take our business for granted".
"The rules have changed. Qantas operates overseas where the playing fields are not level in terms of politics, economics, industrial relations and exchange rates, so it's very difficult to maintain a sustainable competitive advantage.
"It's like a rugby game where both sides are playing using a different set of rules."
Captain de Crespigny said some Qantas pilots might wish to "transfer to Asia".
"I think there are good business reasons for using existing Qantas pilots who perhaps may wish to move to where the growth potential is," he said.
"There is no assumption that pay and conditions would change.
"The supply of pilots will not be sufficient in Asia to meet demand . . . there will be so much demand that I think salaries may go up . . . Qantas engineers and pilots are up there with the rest of the world and will be highly sought after."
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Up until now Capt De idiot has been allowed to get away with his little ego trip. Okay, he is a little crazy and hard to get along with, but he was the man of the moment and he has not hurt anyone, so who cares, Right?
Well after today, enough is enough!! He did not save the day in Singapore. The other pilots on the deck did. In particular the F/O. But did he get the recognition he deserved? No, hopefully now the truth will come out.
Use the substitution test on what happened. Would you have done what he has done and used the incident to your gain. Unless your name is Sullenberg then probably not. Even Sully says he does not deserve it. He did what he was paid to do.
The character of the man is demonstrated in a story that was told to me. Apparently he is briefing cabin crew that he is the pilot of the Singapre flight and that he would like the flight attendants to write poetry for him and the best piece presented to him gets a signed copy of his book!!! If you don't believe me ask the cabin crew.
He has also been a bottom dweller for all of his career in Qantas and these are not my words but others who know him and this little stunt fits the profile of someone who uses every means available to stay in the flight department good books. I say the word career, he had one, but he is prepared to let everyone below him go overseas to pursue their's. Well he can go to hell!!!
Well after today, enough is enough!! He did not save the day in Singapore. The other pilots on the deck did. In particular the F/O. But did he get the recognition he deserved? No, hopefully now the truth will come out.
Use the substitution test on what happened. Would you have done what he has done and used the incident to your gain. Unless your name is Sullenberg then probably not. Even Sully says he does not deserve it. He did what he was paid to do.
The character of the man is demonstrated in a story that was told to me. Apparently he is briefing cabin crew that he is the pilot of the Singapre flight and that he would like the flight attendants to write poetry for him and the best piece presented to him gets a signed copy of his book!!! If you don't believe me ask the cabin crew.
He has also been a bottom dweller for all of his career in Qantas and these are not my words but others who know him and this little stunt fits the profile of someone who uses every means available to stay in the flight department good books. I say the word career, he had one, but he is prepared to let everyone below him go overseas to pursue their's. Well he can go to hell!!!