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I heard a rumor today from a reliable source who is a gentleman and non vindictive individual that the airline in question has enough jam in the jam jar to feed them until the end of February.
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I heard a rumor today from a reliable source who is a gentleman and non vindictive individual that the airline in question has enough jam in the jam jar to feed them until the end of February.
The jam jar not quite as full as the reliable source had heard rumored??
I heard a rumor today from a reliable source who is a gentleman and non vindictive individual that the airline in question has enough jam in the jam jar to feed them until the end of February.
The jam jar not quite as full as the reliable source had heard rumored??
http://www.airaustralia.com/~/media/Files/Air%20Australia%20FAQs.ashx
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/travel/news/budget-airline-air-australia-placed-in-administration/story-fn32891l-1226273367460
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Very sad news indeed. If any of you are interested in coming over to Sri Lanka in order to keep flying PM me. I know the terms and conditions at SriLankan are not the best but it might be a good option until you find something else. We are hiring on the A320 / A330 and I can set you guys up with the recruitment people. I will not engage in the usual debate about SriLankan and not reply to any threads on that subject, this an offer from a pilot to his fellow aviators who are unemployed.
Good luck to you all.
Good luck to you all.
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Unfortunately this is for pilots only.
Try Hong Kong Airlines.
There will be 200 positions available this year, and approx 300 in 2013.
There are no projections beyond that, but there are 10 A380's coming, then A350's and B787's down the track.
I suspect the boeings will go to mainland as it is primarily an Airbus fleet, or is planned to be.
It is the companies policy to promote within, but there are not enough qualified F/O's to fill all the spaces, so in the short term there must be some DEC's.
That is my opinion, but the numbers are real.
There are plenty who bag this company, but they have been proved to be way off the mark.
Sorry about what happened, but perhaps there might be an opportunity for you there.
It is a website application, anyone wishes more information please feel free to pm me.
Try Hong Kong Airlines.
There will be 200 positions available this year, and approx 300 in 2013.
There are no projections beyond that, but there are 10 A380's coming, then A350's and B787's down the track.
I suspect the boeings will go to mainland as it is primarily an Airbus fleet, or is planned to be.
It is the companies policy to promote within, but there are not enough qualified F/O's to fill all the spaces, so in the short term there must be some DEC's.
That is my opinion, but the numbers are real.
There are plenty who bag this company, but they have been proved to be way off the mark.
Sorry about what happened, but perhaps there might be an opportunity for you there.
It is a website application, anyone wishes more information please feel free to pm me.
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I heard a rumor today from a reliable source who is a gentleman and non vindictive individual that the airline in question has enough jam in the jam jar to feed them until the end of February.
Regardless, a sad day indeed, some good aviators now unemployed. The only person in Australian aviation who curently deserves to be unemployed is Joyce.
Good luck to all, keep your chins up.
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When this all washes out it will make SkyAirWorld look like the local milk bar.
100,000 prepaid tickets useless. And not a cent in the bank.
Sad news for all the staff, suppliers and customers. Good luck to everyone.
100,000 prepaid tickets useless. And not a cent in the bank.
Sad news for all the staff, suppliers and customers. Good luck to everyone.
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I really feel for the staff who have lost their jobs.
But what ****s me in situations like this are Administrators and Banks. We all know these blokes will not miss out on a feed,
In cases where the Company Assets are stuck overseas (people and aircraft) plus innocent passengers the companies bankers should just pay the ******* fuel bill get everybody and everything onshore and then let the administrators bleed the company dry.
But what ****s me in situations like this are Administrators and Banks. We all know these blokes will not miss out on a feed,
In cases where the Company Assets are stuck overseas (people and aircraft) plus innocent passengers the companies bankers should just pay the ******* fuel bill get everybody and everything onshore and then let the administrators bleed the company dry.
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No hard feelings
THRidle, Jackthelad and all of you other intellects who kept telling us that we were ‘full of BS’ well, no hard feelings.
This is a very small industry though and your appalling, mindless, vindictive, self serving Flt Ops management (we know who you are) track record while at AA will be your calling card.
Learn to live with being outside the Fourth Reich and your crimes.
All of the other great crew will have no problem getting a new gig very quickly. Welcome
This is a very small industry though and your appalling, mindless, vindictive, self serving Flt Ops management (we know who you are) track record while at AA will be your calling card.
Learn to live with being outside the Fourth Reich and your crimes.
All of the other great crew will have no problem getting a new gig very quickly. Welcome
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Losing a job absolutely sucks , reading today's news of Air Australia and Qantas is bringing back bad memories. It means change but it can sometimes work out ok. It turned out in my case to be the best thing that happened and I wish it happened 10 years earlier.
Good luck
Good luck
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Air Australia is bankrupt
Air Australia collapse leaves 4,000 stranded and scrambling for refunds Budget airline serving Asia-Pacific destinations including Hawaii and Thailand in voluntary administration and unable to pay for fuel ...
Air Australia collapse leaves 4,000 stranded and scrambling for refunds | Business | guardian.co.uk
Air Australia collapse leaves 4,000 stranded and scrambling for refunds | Business | guardian.co.uk
Strategic Europe is all part of the same (dodgy) operation
have a read of this
France Today: France's embarrassment and anger over Strategic Airlines
Strategic Airlines - a charter company banned by France - makes a mockery of the country's civil aviation authority and takes advantage of a lack of European Union-wide regulations.
(screenshot from TF1 news)
In a special report during its prime time news on Monday, French television channel TF1 looked at how a European subsidiary of the Australian-based company Strategic Airlines had managed to flout a ban placed on it by the French civil aviation authority last September.
The charter airline simply moved its headquarters to neighbouring Luxembourg, as a "completely separate subsidiary" gained a licence from that country's aviation authority, and continued its flights from French airports to destinations in Greece and Portugal.
Strategic Airlines first gained a licence to fly in Europe in 2009 but its name soon became synonymous, as far as passengers and authorities in France were concerned, with technical problems and delays.
Complaints about waits of up to 30 hours because of technical problems and 'planes described by passengers as "flying coffins" as well as spot-checks carried out French civil aviation authority officials led to its licence being revoked in September 2010.
But just a few weeks later the company was back in business.
It had found a loophole in European Union regulations: there is no single agency within the 27-member state bloc responsible for overseeing airlines.
Perhaps the European Aviation Safety Agency would be the body most able to fulfil that function, but its role is limited as it makes clear on its website.
"The Agency works hand in hand with the national authorities which continue to carry out many operational tasks, such as certification of individual aircraft or licencing of pilots."
In other words each member state is responsible for deciding whether a licence will be issued to an airline and although a blacklist of airlines exists, it only applies to non-European companies.
And, according to Gilles Gompertz the general manager of the airline consulting business Avico, Strategic took full advantage of the inadequacy of EU-wide regulations.
"We closed the the door (to the airline) in September 2010 and one month later we opened the window," he said.
"What cannot be explained is the refusal by the company to correct faults and to return to the market after it has effectively been banned. That's shocking."
While Luxembourg's civil aviation authority is apparently "keeping a close eye" on Strategic's operations, it did little to prevent the airline once again upsetting passengers in December, this time those bound for the island of Madeira.
After a 10-hour wait, they were informed that their 'plane had been cancelled - an incident the airline put down to having been the fault of the tour operator.
have a read of this
France Today: France's embarrassment and anger over Strategic Airlines
Strategic Airlines - a charter company banned by France - makes a mockery of the country's civil aviation authority and takes advantage of a lack of European Union-wide regulations.
(screenshot from TF1 news)
In a special report during its prime time news on Monday, French television channel TF1 looked at how a European subsidiary of the Australian-based company Strategic Airlines had managed to flout a ban placed on it by the French civil aviation authority last September.
The charter airline simply moved its headquarters to neighbouring Luxembourg, as a "completely separate subsidiary" gained a licence from that country's aviation authority, and continued its flights from French airports to destinations in Greece and Portugal.
Strategic Airlines first gained a licence to fly in Europe in 2009 but its name soon became synonymous, as far as passengers and authorities in France were concerned, with technical problems and delays.
Complaints about waits of up to 30 hours because of technical problems and 'planes described by passengers as "flying coffins" as well as spot-checks carried out French civil aviation authority officials led to its licence being revoked in September 2010.
But just a few weeks later the company was back in business.
It had found a loophole in European Union regulations: there is no single agency within the 27-member state bloc responsible for overseeing airlines.
Perhaps the European Aviation Safety Agency would be the body most able to fulfil that function, but its role is limited as it makes clear on its website.
"The Agency works hand in hand with the national authorities which continue to carry out many operational tasks, such as certification of individual aircraft or licencing of pilots."
In other words each member state is responsible for deciding whether a licence will be issued to an airline and although a blacklist of airlines exists, it only applies to non-European companies.
And, according to Gilles Gompertz the general manager of the airline consulting business Avico, Strategic took full advantage of the inadequacy of EU-wide regulations.
"We closed the the door (to the airline) in September 2010 and one month later we opened the window," he said.
"What cannot be explained is the refusal by the company to correct faults and to return to the market after it has effectively been banned. That's shocking."
While Luxembourg's civil aviation authority is apparently "keeping a close eye" on Strategic's operations, it did little to prevent the airline once again upsetting passengers in December, this time those bound for the island of Madeira.
After a 10-hour wait, they were informed that their 'plane had been cancelled - an incident the airline put down to having been the fault of the tour operator.
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...but how is it that the Government gives a contract to transport Australian Defence Force personnel to a foreign AOC holder? 
Airline's wobbly route meant end of the line was a matter of time
Thanks to Captain Johns for the later link (and yes, the irony is obvious
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With regard to refunds on cash fares, the funds sit for a minimum of 2 weeks in IATA (BSP) coffers before being distributed to Airlines.
We had 4 passengers on cash bookings. Yep - cash still works on the rock in the Southern Ocean.
I duly refunded them through the Sabre system.
Don't know if it will work but it did with Ansett on a few and the revenues held by IATA were returned to us. Despite numerous threats 95% of Travel Agents told the admin to go pound wet sand up their butts as we were out 3+ months of flown revenue overides. That equated to 5+ times what was sent back.
Hopefully these refunds work and we can reconnect the clients with their dollars.
Failing that, there is the Travel Compensation Fund who have been scarily silent. Unless they changed the rules after Ansett fell, they should pick up the losses. They did then but have been strangely silent.
If they dont then they are simply another Quango making money from us (we get bitten every year) to employ people for no return.
This particular event is starting to show up a lot of holes in alleged cover and procedure and even for us that have to deal with it on behalf of others, it is a minefield. The smoke, the mirrors - it is taking hours to navigate it on behalf of clients.
Travel Insurance is another thing - they are not commenting (we carry 2 seperate companies to cover the failings of each) and nothing is being stated as Gospel until a claim comes in.
Woe betide those who booked on the web. What was the phone number for the internet???? At least they can can the bookings cost via the card issuer but there are more road blocks there.
Four clients with Island State Credit Union with Mastercards phoned on my instruction, immediately had the charge reversed to be back on the card within 24 hours.
Another client who is overseas at the moment and who is with CBA for his Platinum card rang and was told he had to go into a branch.
CBA in defensive mode perchance? Make it too hard for older folk to bother?
They were stuck with rules and regs when AN went - what have they learned and closed off?
We are not 24 hours in and it is getting scary.
Thank God it's Saturday and if I get one more call from some nuff nuff who can't tell the difference between Jetset and Jetstar I am goiung to reverse check their number, find them and insert garden furniture in them. Slowly - 45 degree angle.
Don't we live in an interesting world?
Gloomy at the moment VC people - hjowever the good stuff floats and is picked up easily and quickly. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and it is NOT the3:17 from Bankstown.
Best all
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We had 4 passengers on cash bookings. Yep - cash still works on the rock in the Southern Ocean.
I duly refunded them through the Sabre system.
Don't know if it will work but it did with Ansett on a few and the revenues held by IATA were returned to us. Despite numerous threats 95% of Travel Agents told the admin to go pound wet sand up their butts as we were out 3+ months of flown revenue overides. That equated to 5+ times what was sent back.
Hopefully these refunds work and we can reconnect the clients with their dollars.
Failing that, there is the Travel Compensation Fund who have been scarily silent. Unless they changed the rules after Ansett fell, they should pick up the losses. They did then but have been strangely silent.
If they dont then they are simply another Quango making money from us (we get bitten every year) to employ people for no return.
This particular event is starting to show up a lot of holes in alleged cover and procedure and even for us that have to deal with it on behalf of others, it is a minefield. The smoke, the mirrors - it is taking hours to navigate it on behalf of clients.
Travel Insurance is another thing - they are not commenting (we carry 2 seperate companies to cover the failings of each) and nothing is being stated as Gospel until a claim comes in.
Woe betide those who booked on the web. What was the phone number for the internet???? At least they can can the bookings cost via the card issuer but there are more road blocks there.
Four clients with Island State Credit Union with Mastercards phoned on my instruction, immediately had the charge reversed to be back on the card within 24 hours.
Another client who is overseas at the moment and who is with CBA for his Platinum card rang and was told he had to go into a branch.
CBA in defensive mode perchance? Make it too hard for older folk to bother?
They were stuck with rules and regs when AN went - what have they learned and closed off?
We are not 24 hours in and it is getting scary.
Thank God it's Saturday and if I get one more call from some nuff nuff who can't tell the difference between Jetset and Jetstar I am goiung to reverse check their number, find them and insert garden furniture in them. Slowly - 45 degree angle.
Don't we live in an interesting world?
Gloomy at the moment VC people - hjowever the good stuff floats and is picked up easily and quickly. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and it is NOT the3:17 from Bankstown.
Best all
Ewl
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Say G'day to Air Australia
Unfortunately another one bites the dust.
Airline's wobbly route meant end of the line was a matter of time
Airline's wobbly route meant end of the line was a matter of time
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Travel Insurance
Sky News interviewed a chap at Sydney airport who tried to make a claim on his travel insurance. He was told that the insurance company would not cover tickets purchased after a specified date in mid-December, because the insolvency of the airline was known to be likely at that point in time.
I'd be curious to know who the insurance company was. "Strategic Travel Insurance Pty Ltd" perhaps.
I'd be curious to know who the insurance company was. "Strategic Travel Insurance Pty Ltd" perhaps.