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I don't want to thread drift to far away from the ship here but don't JQ F/O's earn under 120k and Tiger F/O's under 100k??
This is not a piss-take and I am not wanting to stir up a wage war debate, I just though that unless you sit in the RH seat of a VA or QF turbine as an F/O you won't crack 120k?
Either way it is a disgrace. An incompetent geriatric FOI who last touched a stick and rudder in 1952 starts at around 140k at CASA!
This is not a piss-take and I am not wanting to stir up a wage war debate, I just though that unless you sit in the RH seat of a VA or QF turbine as an F/O you won't crack 120k?
Either way it is a disgrace. An incompetent geriatric FOI who last touched a stick and rudder in 1952 starts at around 140k at CASA!
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I reckon talking about wages is a waste of time. The Skywest thread reckons that Network has won the FMG contract. A couple of months ago, when I was thinking about joining, I was told that Air Australia was going to get it and that would make sure they survived. So any new pilot slots will probably dry up??
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Oink oink
General Aviation FOIs start at around $120K (no endorsement loading). You are not on the bigger money until the endorsement loading is added.
Sounds good to me Spike, can you get me an application form buddy?????
Just for Kharon
Haven't heard anything about Network getting FMG but you would have to think with a lack of resources, on carriage, FF points, lounges etc, that Strategic were not really going to be in the running, if I were a betting man I would have said Network or VB
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SOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEE!
I believe you can find any vacancies on the net together with the present EBA. I didn't think you would be interest GD, besides, what would PPRUNE would be poorer for your absence. You wouldn't be posting here if you joined malfunction junction, would you? Perhaps you would change your moniker to......Casaweary or similar?
27 January 2012
AIR AUSTRALIA......seeking Expressions of Interest from suitably qualified Flight Crew to join our outstanding team of professionals. A330 & A320 CAPTAINS
10th February
"Air Australia has no requirement for direct entry captains at the moment"
A lot happens in two weeks in that airline!!!!
AIR AUSTRALIA......seeking Expressions of Interest from suitably qualified Flight Crew to join our outstanding team of professionals. A330 & A320 CAPTAINS
10th February
"Air Australia has no requirement for direct entry captains at the moment"
A lot happens in two weeks in that airline!!!!
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The Hooker et al, appears Cargo744 and others may not have been so far off the mark. This has just been published in the AFR in the last few hours, you can look it up for yourself to verify it however I have copied the below for readers ease;
Edited by Sarah Thompson and Stephen Shore
This is an edited selection of today’s best postings on Street Talk, which is updated throughout the day on AFR.com.
Just a month after Strategic Aviation Group, owner of low-cost carrier Air Australia, said it was courting a cornerstone investor to fund expansion, it appears the dream could be over for Australia’s youngest airline.
Initial rumours early this morning have firmed up that Strategic could be placed into administration, or already has been,due to it being unable to repay its debt to lender ANZ.
High oil prices and weakening yields, or ticket prices, have hurt the industry in general and particularly Australian carriers which have seen an onslaught of offshore competition operating off lower cost bases.
One source suggested to Street Talk that KordaMentha, which ran the massive Ansett administration for more than 10 years, has already been appointed.
If the administration is confirmed, it will be the end of an airline – at least in its current form – that had promised to bring competition to Qantas and particularly Virgin Australia, marketing low-cost air fares on a young fleet of aircraft to international leisure destinations such as Phuket and Hawaii in addition to domestic flights.
Air Australia had been planning to add routes in Vietnam and China and eventually the US west coast off a larger fleet of leased Airbus A330 jets, chief executive and sole shareholder Michael James said in an interview last month.
Calls to the press office at Strategic have been met with the vague response that the company cannot comment on anything right now but will be issuing a formal statement. The Air Australia website was still selling tickets for travel this month as of 2:30pm on Wednesday.
This is an edited selection of today’s best postings on Street Talk, which is updated throughout the day on AFR.com.
Just a month after Strategic Aviation Group, owner of low-cost carrier Air Australia, said it was courting a cornerstone investor to fund expansion, it appears the dream could be over for Australia’s youngest airline.
Initial rumours early this morning have firmed up that Strategic could be placed into administration, or already has been,due to it being unable to repay its debt to lender ANZ.
High oil prices and weakening yields, or ticket prices, have hurt the industry in general and particularly Australian carriers which have seen an onslaught of offshore competition operating off lower cost bases.
One source suggested to Street Talk that KordaMentha, which ran the massive Ansett administration for more than 10 years, has already been appointed.
If the administration is confirmed, it will be the end of an airline – at least in its current form – that had promised to bring competition to Qantas and particularly Virgin Australia, marketing low-cost air fares on a young fleet of aircraft to international leisure destinations such as Phuket and Hawaii in addition to domestic flights.
Air Australia had been planning to add routes in Vietnam and China and eventually the US west coast off a larger fleet of leased Airbus A330 jets, chief executive and sole shareholder Michael James said in an interview last month.
Calls to the press office at Strategic have been met with the vague response that the company cannot comment on anything right now but will be issuing a formal statement. The Air Australia website was still selling tickets for travel this month as of 2:30pm on Wednesday.
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why is the AFR the only media outlet reporting on Air Australia
seems strange that the AFR is the only one I can find reporting today on Air Australias woes.
Maybe Air Australias lawyers are working overtime, trying to kill the story ?
Do Air Australia own anything or is everything leased ?
Maybe Air Australias lawyers are working overtime, trying to kill the story ?
Do Air Australia own anything or is everything leased ?
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I can't be fagged going through the process of becoming an online AFR reader, but the teasers on their website have published another story (only in the last 2 and a bit hours) with a headline that suggests the story is being denied by the ownership.
This rumour (and just 'coz it's published by the AFR doesn't mean it's fact) could be being peddled by any number of stakeholders with malicious intent.
Maybe Cyclone8888 might be so kind as to cut'n'paste the second article so that we might all share in the information released by the company.
This rumour (and just 'coz it's published by the AFR doesn't mean it's fact) could be being peddled by any number of stakeholders with malicious intent.
Maybe Cyclone8888 might be so kind as to cut'n'paste the second article so that we might all share in the information released by the company.
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Here you go
Edited by Sarah Thompson and Stephen Shore
Just a month after Strategic Aviation Group, owner of low-cost carrier Air Australia, said it was courting a cornerstone investor to fund expansion, rumour has it the dream could be over for Australia’s youngest airline.
Initial rumours swirled early this morning that Strategic could be placed into administration with the privately owned company unable to repay its debt to lender ANZ, though the company has since been at pains to deny it is in trouble.
“We’re not in voluntary administration, sales are going fine - it’s business as usual,” a company spokesman told Street Talk.
Insiders at Strategic blamed rivals with an agenda to push for the chatter which ran quickly through the industry today.
The chatter had been that KordaMentha, already an adviser to Strategic, was standing by as an administrator, but then if the company actually had gone into receivership it would be incumbent on both to inform the market.
High oil prices and weakening yields, or ticket prices, have hurt the industry in general and particularly Australian carriers which have seen an onslaught of offshore competition operating off lower cost bases.
Even if an administration isn’t on the cards, sources suggested that it was not all rosy between Strategic and ANZ, with talks under way today.
Air Australia has been planning to add routes to Vietnam and China this year and eventually to the US west coast off a larger fleet of leased Airbus A330 jets, chief executive and sole shareholder Michael James said in an interview last month.
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Just a month after Strategic Aviation Group, owner of low-cost carrier Air Australia, said it was courting a cornerstone investor to fund expansion, rumour has it the dream could be over for Australia’s youngest airline.
Initial rumours swirled early this morning that Strategic could be placed into administration with the privately owned company unable to repay its debt to lender ANZ, though the company has since been at pains to deny it is in trouble.
“We’re not in voluntary administration, sales are going fine - it’s business as usual,” a company spokesman told Street Talk.
Insiders at Strategic blamed rivals with an agenda to push for the chatter which ran quickly through the industry today.
The chatter had been that KordaMentha, already an adviser to Strategic, was standing by as an administrator, but then if the company actually had gone into receivership it would be incumbent on both to inform the market.
High oil prices and weakening yields, or ticket prices, have hurt the industry in general and particularly Australian carriers which have seen an onslaught of offshore competition operating off lower cost bases.
Even if an administration isn’t on the cards, sources suggested that it was not all rosy between Strategic and ANZ, with talks under way today.
Air Australia has been planning to add routes to Vietnam and China this year and eventually to the US west coast off a larger fleet of leased Airbus A330 jets, chief executive and sole shareholder Michael James said in an interview last month.
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Following News articles summarize the situation pretty well. . . . RIP although still 2 weeks until March
FLEDGLING carrier Air Australia yesterday hit out at rumours that ANZ Bank is considering winding up the company amid worries from some creditors about outstanding payments.
A spokeswoman rejected suggestions parent company Strategic Group was being put into receivership or administration.
She did not respond to suggestions the company was as much as $30 million in debt or that several creditors were chasing payments.
Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian
AUSTRALIA's newest budget international airline, Air Australia, has been working closely for six months with specialists from corporate paramedic KordaMentha in a bid to turn around its ailing business.
The confirmation of KordaMentha's presence at the Brisbane-based airline follows intense speculation yesterday about its future. The airline is still taking bookings for flights but it declined to respond further yesterday to questions about its financial health.
Read more: Air Australia bids to lift its business
AUSTRALIA's newest budget international airline, Air Australia, is working closely with specialists from the advisory arm of corporate paramedic KordaMentha in a bid to turn around its ailing business.
Air Australia confirmed yesterday that specialists from KordaMentha had been working in an advisory capacity for the airline for the past five to six months
Read more: Corporate doctor called in at Air Australia
FLEDGLING carrier Air Australia yesterday hit out at rumours that ANZ Bank is considering winding up the company amid worries from some creditors about outstanding payments.
A spokeswoman rejected suggestions parent company Strategic Group was being put into receivership or administration.
She did not respond to suggestions the company was as much as $30 million in debt or that several creditors were chasing payments.
Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian
AUSTRALIA's newest budget international airline, Air Australia, has been working closely for six months with specialists from corporate paramedic KordaMentha in a bid to turn around its ailing business.
The confirmation of KordaMentha's presence at the Brisbane-based airline follows intense speculation yesterday about its future. The airline is still taking bookings for flights but it declined to respond further yesterday to questions about its financial health.
Read more: Air Australia bids to lift its business
AUSTRALIA's newest budget international airline, Air Australia, is working closely with specialists from the advisory arm of corporate paramedic KordaMentha in a bid to turn around its ailing business.
Air Australia confirmed yesterday that specialists from KordaMentha had been working in an advisory capacity for the airline for the past five to six months
Read more: Corporate doctor called in at Air Australia
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Unfortunately articles like those won't help Air Australia battle against the bigger boys.
Suppliers demand improved payment terms or stop supply - drain on cash
Customers become worried and look elsewhere - even further drain on cash
Suppliers demand improved payment terms or stop supply - drain on cash
Customers become worried and look elsewhere - even further drain on cash
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From the Australian article:
"...but Perth Airport chief executive Brad Geatches said his organisation was insisting that Air Australia pay outstanding charges. "We're not aware where others might be on the subject but we will be quite insistent on receiving payment," Mr Geatches said. "We are sensitive to these matters; I've got two Ozjet aircraft sitting on my airfield that are a constant reminder to our company of the risk associated with airlines failing."
This is exactly what was happening to OzJet at the end of their life cycle. PER wouldn't let them fly until they paid their bills. I believe it was about $200k that they owed.
"...but Perth Airport chief executive Brad Geatches said his organisation was insisting that Air Australia pay outstanding charges. "We're not aware where others might be on the subject but we will be quite insistent on receiving payment," Mr Geatches said. "We are sensitive to these matters; I've got two Ozjet aircraft sitting on my airfield that are a constant reminder to our company of the risk associated with airlines failing."
This is exactly what was happening to OzJet at the end of their life cycle. PER wouldn't let them fly until they paid their bills. I believe it was about $200k that they owed.
Air Australia a victim of rumors, and credibility
February 16, 2012 – 3:04 am, by Ben Sandilands
Air Australia at risk from all directions, including itself | Plane Talking
Air Australia is copping it from all directions this week, being the subject yet again of rumors of demise or administration, and the doubts it has itself planted by demanding and getting traffic rights to more places than it is plausibly going to serve without more investors and a stronger business.
The airline is owned by former Ansett flight attendant Michael James. It is a renamed Strategic Airlines, which appears in the search results as a carrier which generated occasional controversy over its providing lift to the Australian military effort in Iraq and now Afghanistan.
After a number of service malfunctions it appeared to lift its game and operates what are widely described as effective and competitive services to Phuket, Honolulu and Bali, and between Brisbane and Melbourne and Perth and Derby as well as offering charter services in a small fleet of owned or leased A330s and A320s.
It has also received traffic allocations for services to Vietnam and China but has not revealed anything useful as to when, how often, and with whose A330s, and much of its international flying today appears to be with leased a leased Turkish A330 that sometimes comes as surprise if not disappointment to passengers who expected the gleaming machines in Air Australian livery presented on its site and in its sales material.
Air Australia yesterday specifically and comprehensively denied that it had entered into administration.
Rumors to the contrary are likely to contribute to damage for the Air Australia brand. But so is the inability of the company so far to provide lucid and detailed accounts of what it is on about with its overseas ambitions, since the traffic rights that are automatically available to licensed Australian flag carriers are not in themselves going to translate into revenue unless they are offered as seats to the market, and as soon as possible.
It is fair to say that Air Australia is a welcome competitive force, but that it must decisively act to resource its ambitions, or run a very high risk of irrelevancy leading inevitably to failure.
February 16, 2012 – 3:04 am, by Ben Sandilands
Air Australia at risk from all directions, including itself | Plane Talking
Air Australia is copping it from all directions this week, being the subject yet again of rumors of demise or administration, and the doubts it has itself planted by demanding and getting traffic rights to more places than it is plausibly going to serve without more investors and a stronger business.
The airline is owned by former Ansett flight attendant Michael James. It is a renamed Strategic Airlines, which appears in the search results as a carrier which generated occasional controversy over its providing lift to the Australian military effort in Iraq and now Afghanistan.
After a number of service malfunctions it appeared to lift its game and operates what are widely described as effective and competitive services to Phuket, Honolulu and Bali, and between Brisbane and Melbourne and Perth and Derby as well as offering charter services in a small fleet of owned or leased A330s and A320s.
It has also received traffic allocations for services to Vietnam and China but has not revealed anything useful as to when, how often, and with whose A330s, and much of its international flying today appears to be with leased a leased Turkish A330 that sometimes comes as surprise if not disappointment to passengers who expected the gleaming machines in Air Australian livery presented on its site and in its sales material.
Air Australia yesterday specifically and comprehensively denied that it had entered into administration.
Rumors to the contrary are likely to contribute to damage for the Air Australia brand. But so is the inability of the company so far to provide lucid and detailed accounts of what it is on about with its overseas ambitions, since the traffic rights that are automatically available to licensed Australian flag carriers are not in themselves going to translate into revenue unless they are offered as seats to the market, and as soon as possible.
It is fair to say that Air Australia is a welcome competitive force, but that it must decisively act to resource its ambitions, or run a very high risk of irrelevancy leading inevitably to failure.