Qantas-October 28th
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Executive Pay Compared to Other Airlines
Clifford told the AGM that they don't look at airlines that are government-owned blah, blah, blah, when comparing executive salaries - WTF????
Why then, do you compare OUR salaries to these airlines?
Why then, do you compare OUR salaries to these airlines?
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Christmas Island
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well, this is the first and last AGM ive ever had an interest in....
This is what corporate Australia is all about ha?
Corporate world looking after corporate world. What a disgusting display of arrogance and bull****.
Ok idiots... do it your way... off to Asia we go....
This is what corporate Australia is all about ha?
Corporate world looking after corporate world. What a disgusting display of arrogance and bull****.
Ok idiots... do it your way... off to Asia we go....
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Aus
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I reckon our beloved board (with their new and improved salaries) just added another 6 - 12 months war with the AIPA, ALAEA and TWU. If the PM was watching I'm sure she's say "Well they stuffed that, we are going to have to step in".
As for the voting...what a joke. Now I know how they must of felt in South Africa....One man, one vote.
As for the voting...what a joke. Now I know how they must of felt in South Africa....One man, one vote.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
c173
"Virgin isn't gov owned or supported"
Right you are - but they don't compare my salary to the employees over that side of the fence as that would mean a pay INCREASE with a TOTAL WAGE PACKAGE - and we never want the truth to get in the way of a good PR battle!
Right you are - but they don't compare my salary to the employees over that side of the fence as that would mean a pay INCREASE with a TOTAL WAGE PACKAGE - and we never want the truth to get in the way of a good PR battle!
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: sydney
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Think you will find the board including CEO and chairman have seriously under-estimated the power of the people. I might have the 'power of one' but when corporate greed destroys our company and it's history the people will rise up and smite their enemy
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: A Hotel somewhere
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
WHAT NEXT?
Well, that went well didn't it ? Even GT has been commenting on the ABC, basically supporting the Company line. Nothing new there, I guess.
Maybe it's time for ALL the disputing groups to get together & engage a PR Company/Media Advisor to get your message and facts across to the public and Institution Investors, cos it ain't working the way it is now.
Maybe it's time for ALL the disputing groups to get together & engage a PR Company/Media Advisor to get your message and facts across to the public and Institution Investors, cos it ain't working the way it is now.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: goulburn
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not sure they underestimated it, they just don't care what you think.
This AGM proved that they serve little purpose and if you thought you had a problem before, just wait until you now have to deal with an overfed ego.
This is life or death, with not much in between. The only thing that is certain is that AJ is in charge and now has a mandate to do what he wants and to hell with the rest of you.
Fancy committing to an Asian strategy BEFORE you have expertise on board and then admitting you know it is a problem. Shows the arrogance.
Any Rat employee out there is now fair game and don't for a moment think International is the only issue on the agenda because they will come back and mop up domestic with Jetstar when it suits them.
Have to say I thought all the union reps were pretty ordinary.
Game over.
This AGM proved that they serve little purpose and if you thought you had a problem before, just wait until you now have to deal with an overfed ego.
This is life or death, with not much in between. The only thing that is certain is that AJ is in charge and now has a mandate to do what he wants and to hell with the rest of you.
Fancy committing to an Asian strategy BEFORE you have expertise on board and then admitting you know it is a problem. Shows the arrogance.
Any Rat employee out there is now fair game and don't for a moment think International is the only issue on the agenda because they will come back and mop up domestic with Jetstar when it suits them.
Have to say I thought all the union reps were pretty ordinary.
Game over.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: some dive
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If the PM was watching I'm sure she's say "Well they stuffed that, we are going to have to step in".
One needs to go back to 'that year' to find out what happened when the PM 'stepped in'!!!
Buckle up and hold on for round two, its going to get nasty.
There are only two options open to the QANTAS board.........
1 : The unions back down and management win ( This is the most likely scenario)
2 : They close the airline down
there is no 3rd option
The unions could go on an all out strike, but then the board would default to option 2
What's the unions next move? they can't win but there are 2 ways they can lose.
yes DJ737, the world really is black & white 
Thread Starter
After listening and watching the continuing arrogance displayed by the board, I now have little hesitation in thinking that the board will be quite happy to carry out option 2.
Clearly they have no time for the thoughts of the average australian small shareholder, nor do they run the company with any consideration of what these average australian shareholder thinks is fair. This is simply their toy, to which they want open slather to plunder for their own personal gain.
There was still no real substance in any comments regarding the asian strategy, nor any indication of how this fixes qantas' alleged problems.
Clearly they have no time for the thoughts of the average australian small shareholder, nor do they run the company with any consideration of what these average australian shareholder thinks is fair. This is simply their toy, to which they want open slather to plunder for their own personal gain.
There was still no real substance in any comments regarding the asian strategy, nor any indication of how this fixes qantas' alleged problems.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The End Of The Yellow Brick Road
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just been to the A.G.M.
The whole process was a farce to the nth degree.
Very depressing, knowing that the people in charge of our fine company at this moment in time, have no conscience, or thought for anyone in this world but themselves.
They truly do not care at all for the brand, the shareholders or their employees.
The chairman is a megalomaniac who rules over a board of yes men and women who have no direction or plan.
I, for one, will do everything in my power to thwart their every move.
They are a blight on the whole of society.
They may as well shut the doors now as they will not win this battle in the end.
It truly is them or us.
The whole process was a farce to the nth degree.
Very depressing, knowing that the people in charge of our fine company at this moment in time, have no conscience, or thought for anyone in this world but themselves.
They truly do not care at all for the brand, the shareholders or their employees.
The chairman is a megalomaniac who rules over a board of yes men and women who have no direction or plan.
I, for one, will do everything in my power to thwart their every move.
They are a blight on the whole of society.
They may as well shut the doors now as they will not win this battle in the end.
It truly is them or us.
For the last ten years it has been them and us.
If unions win, there is a good chance Qantas will prosper.
If unions lose Qantas is finished.
If unions don't fight Qantas is finished.
There is absolutely nothing to lose. In fact, I would (and I am NO fan of Branson) prefer to see Qantas destroyed by union action as a mercy killing to 'reward' the utter clowns who threw out Borghetti. End the gravy train for the most incompetent group of managers since Field Marshal Haig decided to order men to walk slowly towards machine guns armed to the teeth with extra sharp bayonnets.
If unions win, there is a good chance Qantas will prosper.
If unions lose Qantas is finished.
If unions don't fight Qantas is finished.
There is absolutely nothing to lose. In fact, I would (and I am NO fan of Branson) prefer to see Qantas destroyed by union action as a mercy killing to 'reward' the utter clowns who threw out Borghetti. End the gravy train for the most incompetent group of managers since Field Marshal Haig decided to order men to walk slowly towards machine guns armed to the teeth with extra sharp bayonnets.
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Asia
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
what a bunch of whores feeding at the trough and I apologise to the whores they are much better people the QANTAS BOARD they ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH! and i sold my shares at 5.20 ! i cant believe that this fake democracy is ok, in China they would al be executed!
Complete ars#*oles the laot of them!
ete
Complete ars#*oles the laot of them!
ete
option 3 is a negotiated outcome
