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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 06:21
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Virgin Australia Long Haul International EBA is up!!

In a poll where 98.6% of the eligible pilots cast a vote, the yay's have won with 85% of the pilots voting in favour of the proposed EBA! Great to see the troops rallying behind our new management's game change plan
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 06:43
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Great to see management recognizing that the troops are integral to the airline's success.
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A good result for current VA pilots, but did the B-scale stay in?? Where would a 10yr 737 capt enter the scale?
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Great to see an EBA with a VA 777 CPT getting paid $9000pa more than a VB 737 getting up. Good luck getting a payrise in the upcoming EBA negotiations.
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Virgin Media Release


VIRGIN AUSTRALIA LONGHAUL PILOTS AND CABIN CREW VOTE IN FAVOUR OF NEW EBA

BRISBANE 23 AUGUST 2011: Virgin Australia’s Long-Haul Pilots and Long Haul Cabin Crew have voted YES to their respective Enterprise Bargaining Agreements (EBAs).

The voting process was finalised last night and received a very positive result with 85 per cent of long-haul pilots and 93 per cent of long-haul cabin crew voting yes to the agreements.

The agreements operate for three years and place the airline in a stable industrial position.

Virgin Australia Group Executive People Richard Tanner said the airline was pleased to have reached such a positive outcome. “Engagement with our staff is a priority for our business. We are looking forward to Fair Work Australia approving the EBAs. This outcome is the result of a very good and fair process for Virgin Australia, the unions and our staff,” he said.

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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 08:29
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Federation media statement

MEDIA RELEASE – Australian Federation of Air Pilots
23 August 2011

Virgin Pilots Vote in New Era.

First Union Collective Agreement!

In a ballot that closed last night at midnight, the Virgin Australia long haul pilots flying to Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi conclusively voted up their first collective agreement.

146 pilots were eligible to vote and 144 voted. This is an extremely high voter turnout and showed the high level of interest this pilot group had in this, their first collective agreement. 85% voted in favour of the proposed document.

Lead pilot negotiator Captain Tim Hosking welcomed the outcome of the vote by saying:-

“This is an historic moment for our pilots taking us from individual contracts to a collective agreement that recognises where Virgin Australia is positioned in an uncertain economy and that its pilots’ terms and conditions of employment had to be improved. This provides a sound platform for our pilots and Virgin Australia as we move forward.”

Tim Hosking highlighted that the Negotiations commenced in March 2010 and although difficult at times as the company worked through management and significant structural change, the end result was worth it.

Terry O’Connell, the Executive Director of the Australian Federation of Air Pilots (AFAP), which represents Virgin Australia pilots, added:

“The Virgin long haul pilots have earned this improvement in their conditions and salaries some of which will increase over 25% immediately. Annual increases of 4% upwards will keep the pilots salaries in line with inflation. This pilot group now sits in the mid-range of pilot terms and conditions in Australia.”

He concluded “This agreement furthers the relationship between the pilots and their management and we expect further improvements as Virgin Australia grows.”

The AFAP will now turn its attention to renegotiating the 2007 Pilots’ Enterprise Agreement , covering pilots in the domestic operation flying Airbus A330s, Boeing 737s and Embraers, which expires this coming November.

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For further information please feel free to contact Captain Tim Hosking on xxxx or Terry O’Connell on 03 9928 5737 or xxxx.
The Australian Federation of Air Pilots is the largest pilot union in Australia representing 3000 pilots in Airline, Regional, Helicopter and Aerial operations.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 08:50
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Does anyone sense another tilt at a management gig for our beloved Slasher?
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 08:51
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Well done guys!

DIVOSH!
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 09:46
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Only $9,000 more than a 737 skipper???

Gee boys don't spend it all at once.

Congrats on a pay rise but you are still way under paid.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 10:04
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A step in the right direction.. well done guys!!
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 10:04
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Congratulations guys. For the record basic not including anything i.e. No super, overtime, allowances, DDO payments, ect Captain is $225k year sliding up to $260k over the life of the EBA 3 years. All F/Os have command pay protection for 2016. International allowances per 24 hr $170 for LAX and $195 AUH. Overall a good result. Some may say underpaid but obviously not all judging by the 85% vote.
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Ok well it's not too bad I guess.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

Enjoy
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 10:13
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So Voz1, will a 737 captain who's been in the "group" for 10yrs be on those rates? What about a 737 fo who transfers? Same as current Voz fo's?
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I should clarify - an existing VB 737 captain bidding onto the 777 would get a $9000 pay rise. The current 777 pilots who voted up the V Oz EBA will be paid more because they will be on a higher pay level - I'm alright Jack!

Anyone who thinks this deal is good for anyone other than existing V Oz pilots is kidding themselves.

Forget the warm and fuzzy "game change" for a moment and consider this: which is cheaper for Virgin - locking in the pay for 146 777 pilots as quickly as possible at rates marginally above existing 737 rates, effectively capping any pay rise for 737 and short haul A330,
or, allowing the 1000 odd VB pilots about to sit down to EBA discussions negotiate a fair pay rise for all Virgin Group aircraft without a precedent already being set?

Another own goal by the unions.
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Curious to know if the level increases are additional to CPI considerations or are they stand alone.
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Always going to be some pissing and moaning isn't there. overall it's obviously been viewed as a positive. Impossible to get your first EBA 100% compromises have made. It's a big step in the right direction. The short haul EBA may negotiate a min level for existing fleet changes. Until the short haul EBA is final, not worth bitching about.

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Ok, can you explain how it is a step in the right direction for anyone other than the existing pilots? And where it places the remaining 1000 pilots in their upcoming negotiations. I stand to be corrected.
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 11:08
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Voz1, congrats on the pay rise - seriously. And overall, for you, I have no doubt it's a positive. My point is that the unions (plural) should never have allowed an EBA to be put to the vote when it had the potential to negatively effect the conditions of the majority of Virgin Group pilots, whom they also represent. Allowing for a B scale is shameful.

I'm pretty sure the champagne corks were popping at the Village before the unions even got a chance to spruik to the media about their big win.
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Is the"B" scale only for the first year?
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 11:55
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Slight thread drift but...
Has anyone heard back regarding CrFO positions advertised last month? Any info about recruitment for the rest of the year?
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