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Old 18th Aug 2011, 15:02
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Virgin jobs for Qantas "rejects"

Secret union talks reveal Virgin preparing to hire Qantas rejects


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The headline demonstrates that News Limited is firmly in Qantas's pocket.
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Guess who wrote the title?...our old mate....
EXCLUSIVE by Joe Hildebrand
Virgin Australia to hire Qantas rejects | thetelegraph.com.au
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Bravo virgin, bravo.
Virgin eyes staff Qantas plans to sack | Herald Sun
DO you have any idea Alan how sad this is becoming?
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So Qantas spend millions of dollars and years training up staff and then just gift them to their opposition LOL
Cant recall exactly but wasnt Qantas sprouting off how it cost on average 1 million of training each pilot or something around that figure ?
Go figure, happy to spend $$$ to then give those assets away bravo
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soon Virgin will become Australia's overstaffed airline. With a share price as low as it is they'd better start making money instead of headlines....
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Jobs at Virgin Australia

Hey all,

I wanted to do a notice to our members but really, what I wanted to pass on is of interest to all Aviation staff. On Wednesday, AIPA joined a federation of Aviation unions. It is the Aviation Unions Federation (AUF) and now has ALAEA, TWU, FAAA (shorthaul) and AIPA.

When we met in Canberra we had a signing ceremony that was attended by John Borghetti and Richard Tanner from Virgin Australia. They expressed deep disappointement at the Qantas move to Asia and offered to assist in any way they can to employ any valuable employee displaced by the other mob.

Not sure what it means specifically for pilots but it is great for LAMEs. They have informed us that an expanding fleet and the opening of the new hangar in Syd will see many genuine opportunites both now and down the track. It's good to see one Australian airline do all they can to offer employment to Aussies.

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From News.com article….
A Qantas spokesman last night said: "This is a very difficult time for many Qantas employees and we hope this is a genuine offer rather than a ... PR stunt.
"Qantas will continue to be one of the biggest employers of Australians with more than 30,000 people.
"Virgin does all of its heavy aircraft maintenance overseas and has also offshored its call centres. Qantas pilots and cabin crew are also paid significantly more than their Virgin counterparts."

OH, so NOW Qantas care about their employees?? WTF ???

Seriously though, this is awesome even if nothing comes of it….it's the first time Q have been really put on the back foot over this…lets hope JB keeps putting the boot in to the Leprechaun. I get the feeling he's been waiting for this ( let's face it, he knows their game plan) to have some real fun against this mob!!
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Good news, maybe Virgin Australia will become the Spirit of Australia.

Certainly a name that no longer suits Qantas.
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Well that has to absolutely take the cake...Qantas suggesting DJ may be involved in a PR stunt........these complete idiots have NO SHAME.
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A Name and a Word Synonomous

Borghetti =Integrity
Hildebrand....you are a repugnant prique !!!!!
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The offer of employment by Virgin is absolutely genuine. Look at all the ex Ansett people working there now and they are bringing maintenance back to Australia.
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Steve,

Any hope that Virgin will then have a higher percentage of LAME preflights?

With the way Qantas are going and their plan to have LAMEless tarmacs, I may have to start using Virgin instead of Qantas.

Sure many others would too.
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For those like me hoping to enter the aviation industry in coming years, it really is nice to see how Virgin Australia is going about their business. Good on Borghetti. Qantas's HUGE loss.
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ALAEA FED SEc , so you are in the pocket of Virgin , how much maintennance do they do in AUS , let me think Engine Shop , No Component Shop , No .Heavy Maintennance , No . But you line up with these guys to score points against the Company that employs the vast majority of your members , who in turn pay your generous T&Cs . Explain that will you ? An opportunist you have always been and will remain . But never a real Unionist
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Tanner???
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Secret union talks reveal Virgin preparing to hire Qantas rejects
Does that offer include management or members of the board?
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Probably, cheaper that way.

eg :
1...QF identifies people to be let go.
2...Redundancy payment of say, $200,000 to each affected person, QF would have to pay.
3...QF gives VA $100,000 cash per person to take said people.
4...VA offers $50,000 cash per person to said people as a incentive to jump ship from VA to QF.

Both VA & QF win, not sure about the employee, would you rather a $200,000 payout and no job or $50,000 cash in hand PLUS a job?
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Good on Virgin for coming to the rescue, however this does little to address our main concern which is the direction of air safety in Australia.

Concerns regarding maint outsourcing, LAME-less workplaces, LAME's on demand, type-A certifiers and the potential safety implications still remain.
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Both VA & QF win, not sure about the employee, would you rather a $200,000 payout and no job or $50,000 cash in hand PLUS a job?
Actually, I would rather the s that are making me redundant after x number of decades pay me my full redundancy and then if another airline need people, as VB obviously do, I am employed on my merits.
I'm sorry but I don't see why part of my redundancy package should be paid to an airline that needs me anyway ?
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