Virgin jobs for Qantas "rejects"
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Not sure that worshipping a competitor that employs the same tactics as what we are opposed to (LAMEless tarmacs) and does the majority of its heavy maintenance overseas is an entirely consistant ideology.
Umm thats garbage if a pilot requests a LAME he gets one.
Not sure what you are on about as that is the same under the QF procedure. A pilot will never be restricted from seeking advice from a LAME if required under any airline.
Not sure that worshipping a competitor that employs the same tactics as what we are opposed to (LAMEless tarmacs) and does the majority of its heavy maintenance overseas is an entirely consistant ideology.
Umm thats garbage if a pilot requests a LAME he gets one.
Not sure what you are on about as that is the same under the QF procedure. A pilot will never be restricted from seeking advice from a LAME if required under any airline.
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Once again, the only payment would be their leave balances.
So I'd think most QF pilots, if they resign to go elsewhere, will be taking not much more than the spare change they have in their wallet with them.
Maybe remove LAMEless tarmac and replace it with LAME on demand. That is the way Virgin have operated for years and it is what QF want.
It doesn't change the fact that it would be hypocritical to be fighting against this while being employed at QF, and then welcome it with open arms if you moved to Virgin.
It is also correct that Virgin will have to deal with the egos and attitudes of the "at QANTAS we did it this way" brigade, the same people who fear change and have never worked outside of Qantas.
It doesn't change the fact that it would be hypocritical to be fighting against this while being employed at QF, and then welcome it with open arms if you moved to Virgin.
It is also correct that Virgin will have to deal with the egos and attitudes of the "at QANTAS we did it this way" brigade, the same people who fear change and have never worked outside of Qantas.
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I don't agree captain gidday,Qantas have no ability to make you take a job at another airline full stop,no transfers no leave without pay.They have made it clear that they intend to make these positions redundant.That means a payout on their part,they will not and cannot get out of their redundancy previsions .AFTER ALL WE DO NOT LIVE IN THE U.S.S.R.,not yet anyway.
I think you'll find the QF long award says that if a pilot is made redundant they must either be given 6 months notice or paid out 6 months. The 6 months would therefore constitute the minimum notice required. If they have more than 5 years service then I'm pretty sure there's a clause that says AIPA is entitled to negotiate the payout.
It's a specific award and is much better than the minimum payment required by the Fair Work Act 2009. Read Division 11 here
Basically, they're getting either 6 months notice, or a payout.
It's a specific award and is much better than the minimum payment required by the Fair Work Act 2009. Read Division 11 here
Basically, they're getting either 6 months notice, or a payout.
QF1. You are correct that Qantas cannot compel a pilot to go elsewhere, without paying a redundancy payment. However, I stand by my earlier assertion that no redundancy payments are presently being offered to pilots. By various means, as I've already elaborated, pilots are currently being encouraged to jump ship before they have to be pushed.
If you think that is living in the USSR, then welcome to Vladivostok!
Certainly, the pilots could all band together and do the reverse of 1989 and every single pilot could refuse to resign or retire or take 'leave of absence' to take up positions at Emirates, Qatar or Virgin Australia, and also not apply to take 'opportunities' in the Jetstar Group. Now, that would be AJ and BB's worst nightmare. And if you thought Leigh got apoplectic about the repeal of Workchoices, just imagine.....
If you think that is living in the USSR, then welcome to Vladivostok!
Certainly, the pilots could all band together and do the reverse of 1989 and every single pilot could refuse to resign or retire or take 'leave of absence' to take up positions at Emirates, Qatar or Virgin Australia, and also not apply to take 'opportunities' in the Jetstar Group. Now, that would be AJ and BB's worst nightmare. And if you thought Leigh got apoplectic about the repeal of Workchoices, just imagine.....
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