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Old 7th Aug 2011, 03:10
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"Don't bite the hand that feeds you"
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Z grade student project media campaigns .....sigh....

...from the world's most experienced [insert ].

Next we'll probably see that the kids onboard activity packs will have colouring in pages depicting the fat ugly union monster trying to fly the plane and the cranky cacky handed engineer that lives in the big hangar.

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My reply to Topher...

Dear Topher,

You have been taken hook line and sinker by the great Qantas PR spin machine. I am a pilot with Qantas International and am exceedingly concerned about the survival of Qantas as we know it and it is very troubling to me and my colleagues to watch such absolute dribble, untruths and plain unadulterated BS from the likes of you. I have never heard of you, but you initially appear to be an investigative kind of guy. I suggest you get your facts straight prior to making such a fool of yourself in a public forum such as this.

FACT: The Qantas pilots union (AIPA) IS NOT insisting Jetstar pilots be paid under the same award as Qantas pilots. That message is continuously being spread by the Qantas PR machine, Jet* CEO Bruce Buchanan, people like you and the wider media. It's time it stopped, right now. What we ARE requiring of our management is that if you, as the traveling public purchase a Qantas ticket to fly on a Qantas aircraft (i.e. Qantas red tail), that aircraft will be flown by a Qantas pilot. NOTHING to do with Jetstar pilots. They have their own award to deal with as they see fit. That's it. End of story.
FACT: We are asking for a 2.5% pay increase, plus other minor claims, at little or no expense to Qantas, and except for the above are negotiable (see Qantas Pilots).
FACT: No "Airline within an Airline" has ever worked, anywhere in the world, since deregulation in the 70's. This 'little" experiment is no different.
FACT: If you do your homework, you will find the Qantas board and Executive (23 people) have ONLY three areas of expertise (except Cosgrove - Military, and Rayner - Tobacco industry). And these three areas are: 1: Venture capital, LBO's M and A's, etc (i.e. the failed APA bid in '07 - thank God!), 2: Failed Airline, Ansett (roughly half of them), and 3: Low cost carriers. Not a PREMIUM man or woman amongst them!!
FACT: A.J. tells us we have lost International market share in recent years. He is correct. Qantas Intl market share is approx 19% however Jetstar in now approx 8%. ie we have lost the majority of our percentage to guess who? J*.
FACT: The other glaringly obvious reason for our loss of market share is that ever since the inception of J*, no investment has been made to the Premium product (other than the A380). Everything has been directed towards Jetstar. ie. gifted aircraft, favorable leasing terms, gifted routes, continuous use of QF infrastructure etc etc, bleeding the parent dry.
FACT: Approximately 6 months ago, A.J. tells the world Qantas Intl is performing very well posting an interim profit of 165M (approx) and yet 6 months later announces a forecast loss of 200M. How is this so? Who is cooking books here? Was he wrong 6 months ago? Is he is wrong now? You do the math.
FACT: We are the only major airline IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD that does not own, or have on order, the most efficient aircraft on the globe, the Boeing 777. It holds almost as many passengers, as much cargo, and will fly further than its rival, the B747. On ONE flight across the Pacific, it uses well over 40,000 kg fuel less than the B747. That's 40 Tonne o gas, Topher.
FACT: Management have been approached many times over the last 10 years (from Boeing reps through to us pilots) to purchase the above said money making machine yet they have steadfastly refused. Even after offers from Boeing for extremely discounted 777's due to the late delivery of the B787. Why? See next fact.
FACT: This board/Executive is deliberately marginalizing this beautiful iconic airline. If you care to research the composition of the Board and Executive, the players, the connections between them all, you will see a picture emerge that is not only incredibly un Australian but shows a greed beyond belief. (ie Former QF CEO Geoff Dixon's affiliation by way of his aircraft leasing company GAAM recently sold to FLY aviation leasing company for 1.4B who ironically are the ex-cronies of Babcock & Brown; Boston Consulting; the APA champions; John Singleton Ad Man himself, etc etc. The list goes on). Do your own research. Who stands to make money and where?
FACT: Our pilot salaries are comparable/competitive to most of the world's Premium Airlines (3-5% of ticket price) EXCEPT many airlines such as Cathay, Qatar, Emirates also provide accommodation, health care etc etc in some of the most expensive cities in the world! So how is it that given the above facts, Cathay & Emirates for example, are recruiting premium pilots at an astonishing rate right now, expanding fleet at an astonishing rate and making tonnes of money at the same time (1.6B in Cathay's case)!
FACT: Qantas will be investing (according to AJ) 500M in the offshore Jetstar product, and when the B787 arrives those aircraft are going to Jetstar. Again one has to ask where Management's true ambitions lay. They are certainly not with us. These collective bunch of greedy fools do not care one iota about our Australian icon or its dedicated staff who will be there long after every single member of this Board has moved onto richer and better pastures. Make no mistake Topher, if we (the collective pilots and engineers) fail with this Industrial Action, Qantas will cease to exist as we know it. This is about the Jetstarisation of Qantas and the greed of a certain few.

PS. If you have any investigative journalism integrity at all, I urge you to research the FACT's above, perhaps contact AIPA's or ALAEA's representatives and perhaps re-do your video with this new found information.

Regards.
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This guy is basically narrating the Qantas press releases and alan joyces speeches in his own annoying voice. He's not a journalist, there's nothing journalistic about what he is saying. In fact thats exactly what is wrong with journalism today, the fact that they are just repeaters of the official PR spin that comes from all companies.

If he actually researched what he planned on saying, he'd see that Jetstar has lost money big time in Singapore, lost money in vietnam (which caused 2 qantas executives to be prevented from leaving the country and that operation in vietnam is currently milking qantas for more cash at the moment), jetconnect and jetstar have lost money in new zealand.

In fact the 2010 annual report says, in relation to NZ and SIN ops
UNRECOGNISED DEFERRED TAX ASSETS
Deferred tax assets have not been recognised with respect to the following items because it is not probable that future taxable profit will be available
against which the Qantas Group can utilise these benefits:
to the tune of $15million for NZ and $25million for Singapore.

Also as per the 2010 annaul report, to say that Qantas doesn't enjoy lucrative tax breaks in Australia would be an understatement.

Due to their excellent accontants and Australia's convoluted taxation system
-in 2009 Qantas was able to keep $1149million CASH and
-in 2010 Qantas was able to keep $1307million CASH
from their EBITDAR whilst paying $62million TAX.

To say Qantas needs to go offshore to survive, they already are offshore. Most of Jetstar's maintenance is offshore. Their aircraft are offshore. Their flight attendants are offshore. Jitconnect is offshore. Qantas's long haul has numerous offshore flight attendant bases. Jetstar pilots are offshore in NZ and Singapore. Qantas is sending a380 reconfigs off shore when the workforce in AVV is capable. A380 maintenance is offshore. Spare part supply is offshore.

Another interesting tidbit is where Qantas derives its revenue from. The figures have been removed from the 2010 annual report for some reason but they're in the 2009 report.
Australia $9760million
UK/Europe $1102million
Japan $384million
SE/NE Asia $668million
Americas/Pacific $948million
New Zealand $329million
Others $358million.
Segment Revenue
Qantas $10784million
<-100%UK/Europe, 25% Japan, 90% Americas/pacific, 25% SE/NE Asia, remaining Australia
Jetstar $1646million <-75% Japan, 50% NZ, 75% SE/NE Asia remaining Australia as a total guess

Now I dare say, if the company is deriving a VAST majority of its income in Australia, where it was founded, its based (for now), its charging Australia prices (ie very high) to Australian passengers, it would hardly be considered very Australian to want to offshore most things.

The want to have their cake and to eat it too, to pay 3rd world rates of labour which is the main issue these days whilst still charging the full 1st world fares in possibly one of the most expensive air travel regions in the world really says something. Nevermind the fact that Australia is still a cosy duopoly with guaranteed income, there is NO threat at all to virgin and qantas from anyone. The corporate world these days which rewards complete total disregard for morals at the pursuit of the dollar is a very sad world to be involved in..

I know its cliched but if this is the plan, does the executive committee and the board have 3rd world rates of pay in store for them, or do you need to pay $12million for a CEO to attract the best, like old mate GD?

Now a critical thinking journalist is something I'd like to see. Currently in aviation we have, Ben Sandilands........ and thats it. The rest are PR repeaters.
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Is VH-CZA in the qantas sim center in melbourne or is it in the ansett one?
If it is in the Melbourne QF center then how did he get in there without help/support from qf? I guess someone must have signed him in....who? Why?
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Ansett. Sorry, no conspiracy there.
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Old 7th Aug 2011, 06:17
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Just a couple of thoughts .....

If you guys took NO payrise at all ... would that save Qantas International (assuming it needs saving)?

Mr Topher, like Qantas, has only ever talked about "reducing costs" ... do Corporations no longer explore "increasing income" anymore?
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Dear Tosser....oops typo, apologies....Dear Tophor,
I've got two words for you, dear innocent child, "Senate Inquiry".
Read it an weep!

Oh by the way, your university assignement smacks of undergraduate-****-I-ran-out-of-time effort. Stay out of the bar in future. D- FAIL
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He says that he is completely independent from Qantas ,yet how did he get a seat in a simulator in a safety sensitive area at the QF sim centre.Just more PR spin from Qantas by a boy trying to make a quick dollar.Back up the words with facts.
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and to highlight the fact on the spin, Qantas has already been downsizing its international division, for the last 4 years. Jetstar has replaced Qantas flights and the profit has gone down.


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Mr Tosser's video site lists his email address if you wish to pass on your opinion of his work.
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Old 7th Aug 2011, 11:00
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The Other Guys Facts

Fact: AIPA is claiming mainline T & Cs for any flights with QF flight numbers (including codeshares) for the following - Jetstar, Express Freighters Australia, QantasLink 717s and Jetconnect.

Fact: There is no way possible that you could have any idea of the terms that Boeing would have offered QF for an aircraft purchase.
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Some people would have you believe Qantas management are wasteful, stupid and inept.
Give him credit for getting one thing right! Or is that actually three things he got right?
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Has anyone heard of 60 minutes or Four Corners? My mate shares a place with Big Boss.. Try to find out more..
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He says that he is completely independent from Qantas ,yet how did he get a seat in a simulator in a safety sensitive area at the QF sim centre.
To be fair to management (and no, I can't believe I just said that either) that 737 sim is in the Ansett sim centre. It's not a QANTAS sim.

Check the rego in the sim (CZA). CZ- were the initial two letters in the Ansett 737 regos.
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Is it Topher or TOSSER! What a knob.
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This guy is placing facts as they stand, rather than attack the man maybe you should be a bit smarter and play the ball, you might get more credibility that way.

Too little too late, but if you look at all of QF international's competition you will see that they have adopted a fleet pay scenario, something that may have helped the QF pilots cause.
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Actually KABOY, he has just repeated almost word for word what Qantas executives say in media briefings.

As you would understand you need a crisis or a perception of one to implement change with compliance. It makes it justifiable and palatable although painful at the end of the day.

There is a reason why there is such skepticism. Number 1, the lack of transparency in annual reports. Qantas Int/Dom has never been segregated in reports, its only Qantas/Jetstar/Freight etc.

Also, there was no mention of Qantas international doing it tough, its a very recent phenomenon. Even at the half year reports in December as per here;
http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/...diaRelease.pdf
Alan Joyce is quoted in saying
Segment Performance
Mr Joyce said all operating segments of the Qantas Group were profitable for the half-year ended 31
December 2010, delivering significant EBIT growth.
Qantas Airlines produced a strong revenue performance across both its international and domestic
operations, with Underlying EBIT of $165 million up 175 per cent on prior year first half,” Mr Joyce said.
So was Alan Joyce lying ? Or was there a massive turnaround from February when he all of a sudden started going on the record saying the Qantas International division is losing money.
Qantas International slowly dying: Qantas CEO Alan Joyce - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller
Qantas chief Alan Joyce said today there was "a real question mark over the viability of Qantas International" if it keeps going the way it is.
In 1 month.
Amazing.
This is from the person who should know everything to do with the airline.
So is he lying or was there a dramatic turnaround that has caused the international division to be supposedly profitable to losing $200million. He submitted a statement in the form of the HY year report to the ASX stating all segments of the airline were profitable. I'm not accusing him of lying, he's just contradicted himself massively.

As per Alan Joyce's words the $200million loss must have been within the 6 months from December 2010 till June 31 2011. Assuming a worst case, it was breaking even on Dec 31 and -$200million June 31. That's over $1million a day in losses.

If on the other hand it has been losing money to the tune of $200million annual, assuming $100million for the half year to December 31, the Qantas segment as per the HY2011 report made an EBITDAR of $865million.

Yields have increased since then but lets just assume its a repeat of the 1st half to around $1600million EBITDAR.

International has lost $200million.

So as per Alan Joyce's inferring remarkable turnaround to the negative, and using information provided in reports provided by Qantas to the ASX, domestic ops, extrapolating the 1/2 year report to the full year, its possible that they have made $1800million EBITDAR for the full year.

On the other hand, per Bruce Buchanan's words, Jetstar makes no money on tickets and all of its money on muffins to the tune of $24 per passenger(google it). Jetstar carried 5million domestic pax and 2million international pax and 1.4million jetstar asia pax. Which is apprently $201,600,000 for the 6 months to December 21. Yet as per the half year report the group ancillary revenue was only $126,000,000, a decline on the previous year yet the fleet has grown

So, KABOY, when you actually look into the numbers, the words, what is on public record, it's very, very hard to not be skeptical to the extreme that what you're being fed is an inconsistant, complete load of ****.
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When you board a Qantas flight you expect....

When you board a Qantas flight you expect....

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There is a glimmer of hope for journalism in Australia...posted with permission ....

"G'day,

Thankyou for leaving feedback after watching Topher's Spotlight - QANTAS, and in particular thankyou for taking the time to explain your grievances with the video.

This video was my first attempt at a 'fast turnaround' video. My previous docos (the 'Unpopular View' series, about water politics) each took 5-8 weeks and cost over $10,000 (once you count my time, which I of course gave for free) to produce. Given that I drive a forklift in a warehouse to pay my weekly bills and receive no external funding, this cost is prohibitive and has limited me to producing only two videos a year. I decided to try a new 'fast turnaround' format to cut production time and costs.

The video you saw was produced in a few days and at a fraction of the usual cost, and as you have pointed out in your feedback, it shows.

I apologise for the factual errors contained in the video and the lack of depth in the research. It will not happen again.

To right this situation I will be making another video about QANTAS, produced my 'old' way. Weeks of research, hunting out source documents and asking hard questions. I intend to investigate questions such as the possible 'cooking of the books' by QANTAS to shift profit from QF to Jetstar, ask how QFInternational could go from reporting a $150Mill profit to a $200Mill loss so quickly AND to set the record straight on exactly what it is that AIPA are demanding.

I can't promise you'll like what I find or the conclusions I draw, but I do promise I'll do everything in my power to get to the bottom of these issues and answer as many of the tough questions as I can.

Feel free to reply with any further thoughts and in particular any leads you may have which could assist my research. Feel free also to pass this email address on to others in the industry who may be able to assist.
[email protected]

Regards,

Topher."
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