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Old 4th Aug 2011, 10:13
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Qantas market share has declined to 18%
Latest BITRE figures (May 11) have QF's market share as 19.2% and rising from the nadir of 17.6% in January this year.
In fact the QF mainline market share is on an upswing.
Oh no, we can't have that! Better drop LA and fly direct to Denver with de ay twee aytees
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Old 5th Aug 2011, 06:08
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A pilot went to heaven - qantaslies.com.au possibly?



Well, it is Friday...
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Old 5th Aug 2011, 09:32
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.............what a crack up

One could say time stands still for no man

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A bit of digging reveals who is doing this for Qantas.

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Domain Nameqantasanswers.com.au Last Modified25-Jul-2011 05:54:10 UTC Registrar IDMelbourne IT Registrar NameMelbourne IT Statusok RegistrantSTW COMMUNICATIONS GROUP LIMITED Registrant IDABN 84001657370 Eligibility TypeCompany Registrant Contact ID22027O1328524 Registrant Contact NameSTW COMMUNICATIONS GROUP LIMITED Registrant Contact [email protected] Tech Contact ID22028T1328524 Tech Contact NameEmma Horne Tech Contact [email protected] Name Serverb.ns.zerigo.net Name Serverc.ns.zerigo.net Name Servera.ns.zerigo.net
STW group owns Ogilvy Public Relations Australia - public relations companies, public relations firms, public relations agency, public relations, PR, public relations jobs, public relations internships, public affairs that did the iconic campaign's for Qantas such as STW Group - What Works
Thanks to 600ft-lb for the above, and it's interesting to note the man behind STW is of course John Singleton
from Wikipedia:
Singleton developed close ties with the Australian Labor Party and created the advertising for Bob Hawke's successful 1983 election campaign. John Singleton Advertising listed publicly, became the Singleton Group Ltd in 1996, then grew to become the STW Communications Group Ltd in 2002
and I just saw the new thread by Mr. Wobbles that made the penny drop and it all makes sense now:
GAAM, Fly Lease

Now to some fancy flying by a stellar cast of local investors who have been the force behind the country’s second-biggest aircraft leasing business Global Aviation Asset Management and have now managed to sell it to US-listed FLY Leasing for $US1.4 billion. FLY is the former Babcock and Brown aviation leasing business and boasts former B&B execs Trevor Lowensohn and Phil Brown as its advisors. The merry cast at GAAM cashing in on the deal include former Qantas boss Geoff Dixon, his former CFO and former Leighton CFO Peter Gregg, former Allco boss David Coe, John Singleton and private equity investor Mark Carnegie.
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GAAM, Fly Lease

Now to some fancy flying by a stellar cast of local investors who have been the force behind the country’s second-biggest aircraft leasing business Global Aviation Asset Management and have now managed to sell it to US-listed FLY Leasing for $US1.4 billion. FLY is the former Babcock and Brown aviation leasing business and boasts former B&B execs Trevor Lowensohn and Phil Brown as its advisors. The merry cast at GAAM cashing in on the deal include former Qantas boss Geoff Dixon, his former CFO and former Leighton CFO Peter Gregg, former Allco boss David Coe, John Singleton and private equity investor Mark Carnegie.
He said that the company is aiming to maintain a 20 per cent share of the Asia Pacific low-cost carrier market and might need to have as much as 400 aircraft by 2020.

"The total (fleet size of) the low-cost carrier market (in Asia-Pacific) is about 450 aircraft today and we envisage it to grow to in excess of 2000 aircraft by the end of the decade," he said on the sideline of a media briefing in Singapore.

"To maintain 20 per cent market share by 2020, we need about 400 aircraft," Buchanan added without elaborating when the carrier will start making orders of those aircraft.
SMH: Jetstar to invest $470m in Singapore hub

Who will lease the aircraft to the "Qantas Group". If it is not GAAM it will subsidiary of GAAM.

The picture becomes clearer. The big money is going to be made in the leasing of this 400 aircraft growth. This is why they need to abandon the international operations, to use the money to leverage into this massive growth.

The "Qantas Group" already appears to be controlled by GAAM. Has the "takeover" already occurred via this mechanism?
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Has Geoff really left the building or is he a distant puppet master pulling the strings from afar?

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Old 6th Aug 2011, 06:55
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It just doesn't make sense.

Has Geoff really left the building or is he a distant puppet master pulling the strings from afar?
Good point, with all this talk about GFC2 over the past few days coming to a head, I believe anything (GD JS) & (LC & his round table, AJ, OW & BB) do will be heavily scrutinised as the market are much more savvy after the last GFC debacle. Too many CEOs used the GFC as an excuse to cut and slash everything leading to lower service levels in the service industries. Qantas is a fine example of this, still running with this mentality after all this time, other words, an unswerving negative relationship strategy towards its labour force . Why is this?

In today's business climate you would think the penny would drop with these strategist running the show, they should have woken up to this fact, airlines are a "people business" which requires motivated people. Being negative all the time has become "more of the same" for the staff and the companies customers regarding declining service levels.

People who live in SE Asia see Jetstar as a cheap version of Qantas anyway, the reality is, that's the way the Jetstar brand is sold in the travel agencies so why is it that the Q management need to give Jetstar priority over the Qantas brand?
It's daft!
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Old 6th Aug 2011, 08:49
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Blind Freddie can see there is an intent to drive the QF brand down, I mean just look at all their aircraft! They are an embarrassment, obviously excluding some of the newer A330 and 737 and A380, (but almost everyone knows the A380 is a dud economically) There is a spider web of different interests here and I believe they are up to something as mentioned in the previous posts.

On the flip side I have heard about the Yen Men on the Narita runs and I actually travelled on the QF22 last week in business and all I can say it was woeful.. I had to pick my main meal selection about 4 minutes after I got to my seat and I needed to call an attendent for all of my 3 wine refills, the service was done and dusted in about an hour and did not see anyone for the next 5 hours (gone to bed) Then the flight attendant turned up with breakfast and poked me awake with no speech and waited for me to groggily get my seat organised while she shoved the tray down and rushed off.

I can easily say my next domestic flight out of Sydney was much more pleasant with the shorthaul cabin crew, a breath of fresh air.

I am not having a go at the senior longhaul cabin crew personally I just believe it is a symptom of QF's management disrespecting their employees and it is showing on the front line. AJ needs to go, he has basically done nothing, have a look at Air NZ and see how a great CEO operates mate!

Anyway thats my 3 Yens worth, still think something very fishy is going on behind the scenes, stay united pilots and dont cave in on their rumours!
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Old 6th Aug 2011, 10:14
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QF22 Crews

A good many of the crews on the QF22 are AKL based.
They are paid poorly and very overworked with little time at home.
Last time I operated this flight one of the CC was asleep on the jumpseat before we rotated.
Safety report written.
Shorthaul CC do not suffer the same fatigue levels as Longhaul.
Dont misunderstand.They work very hard but dont suffer from accumulated jet lag.
Qantas has LHR base and AKL base crews who are being exploited just like JetStar Cabin Crew.
It is very difficult to motivate people who are treated poorly,underpaid,undervalued and overworked
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Old 6th Aug 2011, 10:15
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A380 an economic dud?

I must be among the minority as I don't 'know' that the A380 is an economic dud.

How does everyone else 'know' this?
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Isn't it great when a plan comes together?

Now is the time to buy a blocking stake in Qantas if you can beat the Boyz -which I doubt.
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Old 6th Aug 2011, 10:41
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It is very difficult to motivate people who are treated poorly,underpaid,undervalued and overworked
What an outstanding revelation RACE BARRON.

Key words are:
treated poorly,underpaid,undervalued and overworked
But hey, this is the new age of internationalising business
What is even more galling is to read is that Darth is back with his claw around the neck of the Rat.

This whole sorry mess is pathetic in the extreme. As one pax said to me yesterday when getting off a LAX -SYD sector.

Good Luck guys...........you're gonna need it
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If the Boyz are back lets hope or make sure the corporate cops are on the job with some serious will to expose these events.

There will be no stopping the outcry for round two if it ever happens.
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Is it true that the B744 crew's have been told to throttle back on the AUS-LAX runs, so as not to overtake the A380?
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Old 6th Aug 2011, 11:37
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BuL .....

No .

The 744 might cruise ... maaybe .01 faster than the A380, the big killer is that the A380 can climb higher ... which for an equivalent mach number means that the cruise is slower. (it is reeeellllyy nice being able to climb above the pack) ..

For every situation, there are advantages and disadvantages ...

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Old 6th Aug 2011, 13:51
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The Qantas Jigsaw

Share price at $1.69...its cheap
CC being recruited in Malaysia in anticipation of a base there
Rumoured closure of BNE and MEL CC bases
Dixon and cronies part of a cashed up group ready to pounce on aircraft leasing.
Jetstar expanding in Asia
Jetstar pilot shortage
Smoke and mirror financial circumstances of the Qantas Group
Big announcement on the 24th August
Will Senator X be able to save the day?
.......whose going to blink first before it all fits together ?
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Do you remember being in 1998 and looking at Ansett and saying "whose going to blink first before it all fits together ?"
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Could this be a connection?

Forgive me if this has been posted before somewhere else but I find this interesting,

Colonial buys 22.7m Qantas Airways shares | Business Spectator



which incidentally is part of the Commonwealth Bank. The thought did cross my mind, could this have anything to do with Sir Ralph Norris who has announced his departure from the CBA later this year? I know this is a wild shot but there is a connection on the Qantas board.... I wonder...


Qantas Board of Directors
Independent Non-Executive Director


Barbara Ward was appointed to the Qantas Board in June 2008.
She is a Member of the Safety, Health, Environment and Security Committee and the Audit Committee.
Ms Ward is Chairman of Essential Energy, a Director of a number of Brookfield Multiplex Group companies and O'Connell Street Associates Pty Ltd, and is on the Advisory Board of LEK Consulting.
She was formerly a Director of the Commonwealth Bank of Australia, Lion Nathan Limited, Brookfield Multiplex Limited, Allco Finance Group Limited, Record Investments Limited, Data Advantage Limited, Rail Infrastructure Corporation and Delta Electricity. She was Chairman of NorthPower and a Board Member of Allens Arthur Robinson.
Ms Ward was Chief Executive Officer of Ansett Worldwide Aviation Services from 1993 to 1998. Before that, Ms Ward held various positions at TNT Limited, including General Manager Finance, and also served as a Senior Ministerial Adviser to The Hon PJ Keating. my bold

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What's the breakup value. Ie value of Cash and other assets if sold off independently. That's prob what will drive a takeover.
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I'll put up 50 bucks and I don't even like you buggas! However :''There's no one I'd rather have at the controls than a Qantas pilot.''
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