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Old 27th Jul 2011, 07:30
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Steve P,

Looks like you are receiving enough data to keep you going for a month !!

Is it possible for somebody to do some number crunching and calculate executive managements total bonus payments during the period that international has been supposedly operating in such 'financially perilous circumstances' and how much of that money links into International ?
Naturally bonuses are made up from various components, and I would love to see how much money was paid out as performance bonuses and consultancy fee's over the same period of time that the international section was allegedly under-performing ? Not to mention 'accountability'. Shouldn't the upper echelon be falling on their swords if they have not been able to run an efficient business ?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 07:39
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A330's VH-EBE and EBF have never operated by mainline yet are owned by Qantas and leased to Jetstar. Why?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:20
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If you ever get any numbers look at how the Corporate office costs are allocated to the various divisions. There should be a logical basis such as share of total revenue.

If you want to make one division look worse than another you just allocate more to one than the other and dream up a reason to justify it.

If that fuel issue is correct that is a smoking gun.
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:23
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Gee that Ken Rabbitborough fella ( management stooge )is quiet on this thread?

Got anything smart to refute all this Ken?

Thought so.....
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:28
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How much does J* pay for the use of the training facilities in Airport west in Melbourne?

How long have the Aircraft on ground team from Qantas been sourced to fix broken J* A330's around the network & at what cost?

How much did J* pay for the use of Qantas long haul Route manual supplement information?

How much was billed to Qantas for the use of the A330 ACARS for aircraft sent from Qantas to Jetstar?

What was the financial cost to mainline of transferring aircraft to Jetstar and Qantas carrying a pilot surplus for the last 3 years?

How much did Jetstar pay Qantas legal for drafting an Mou document for the exchange / transfer of pilots?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:33
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For that matter may as well include charges to Jetstar when metal goes tech and the Rat provides a replacement.
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:36
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Who paid the cost of painting the 330's in Jetstar colours (and then back to QF livery) and changing over the interiors?
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Do Jetstar use QF's Maint Watch for their A330? I think they use to - not sure about now.
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What does Jetstar pay to Qantas for the use of the A330 simulator for its training?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:39
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What amount was paid to Qantas each time they were chartered to fly services to destinations like HNL & what penalties where paid QF to J* for not providing a serviceable aircraft to operate the sector?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:44
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Does J* pay QF an appropriate (commercial) rate for seats on mainline services (codeshare) and do they pay for the meals that the J* pax consume?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:45
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Geez. If even one tenth of the questions posed here could be answered, I think that Clifford, Joyce and Buchanan would be behind bars.

And nothing would please me more.
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Jetstar uses the aircraft that flies to HNL as the fleet spare should another aircraft go U/S. The QF flight and crew slipping there are then press-ganged into operating the scheduled Jetstar service as a charter.

How much does Jetstar pay QF for this aircraft and crew effectively on standby to recover it's services?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:55
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Whilst Qantas baggage handlers loaded J* A330's at Sydney International, between the loading of Qantas aircraft.

What rate where J* charged for QF baggage handling?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 09:03
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Who paid for the Jetstar A330 lame traing.I believe they took the training slots provided by Airbus that come with every aircraft purchase If the above is true the slots should belong to Qantas who own the aircraft.I bet everthing including the Hong Kong PCT all come from Qantas.
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In the Northern winter QF was operating 744's to NRT with load factors averaging 90%. illogically there was an A330 operating one flight a week. Can Lyell confirm the only reason this occurred was so that Jetstar would not have to provide it's own A330 rated engineers in NRT?

If so, what was the loss of revenue to mainline over this time due to the reduction in available seats (100 per week) plus who paid for the 2 mainline A330 crews paxing to and from NRT each week?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 09:05
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Qantas insures both the Qantas & Jetstar fleet thru the one insurer in London.

Who pays for the groups insurance premium?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 09:28
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Doing your own forensic accounting!

Keep it up.

You will possibly prove Jetstar is a sham operation that not only attacks your terms and conditions, but possibly contravenes the Trade Practices Act because Qantas is apparently not allowed to sell goods and services at less than their cost of production.

Dutchroll had some pertinent comments. Make a note of the account codes when you fill out dockets. It would be useful if there was a chart of accounts posted, although I don't know if that is confidential or not.
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 09:29
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Well over 50 questions all well done. I am now on overtime rates, think I will send the bill to Sue Bussel.

And who said this was just a rumour network?
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 09:40
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How much does Jetconnect pay QF to maintain the JetConnect gifted aircraft flight library? I believe the annual fee is around $60,000, why doesn't JetConnect pay this?
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