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Jetstars inaction says it all, the guy should have been arrested and charged with disorderly behaviour. Letting him off like this is a disgusting affront to the other pax especially those directly affected.
Bogan airline, Bogan prices, Bogan pax.
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This kind of behaviour is increasingly prevalent everywhere. No less offensive are the parents who change their babies nappy on a tray table.....as if its ok to expect the next person to eat their meal off a surface thats been in contact with faeces....
But back to the story.....alcohol, the 'great' social culture of the antipodes....
But back to the story.....alcohol, the 'great' social culture of the antipodes....
Bogan air, piss poor service!
Maybe true, BUT the real story is that Bogan Air did nothing about it.
If it happened on my aircraft he wouldn't be receiving a warning.
This kind of behaviour is increasingly prevalent everywhere
If it happened on my aircraft he wouldn't be receiving a warning.
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Hmmm, a very very lenient Captain. I have no tolerance for these kinds of incidents, I had a guy hauled off the aircraft a few months ago on arrival as he had been consuming his own alcohol and was then very 'abusive' to the crew and passengers around them when asked to stop. He carried on like a child for the rest of the flight, quite a few passengers commented that I had been a bit harsh when they saw him 'subdued' by the cops. The cops then asked what I would like them to do, my choice was a formal charge for being drunk onboard an aircraft or an on the spot fine in the order of $1000 for being intoxicated onboard the aircraft. I opted for the fine, I certainly haven't lost any sleep over it at all. The company were great and ultimately it is up to the Captain whether he wants to give just a warning or escalate it further, in this case I would have gone out of my way to get him formally charged and chucked in the slammer for the night. No excuse for that kind of behaviour. 
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I don't think this behaviour would have been tolerated so lightly by an Australian based crew. This being a AKL-SIN means it would have been crewed in the cabin by Singapore & New Zealand based Jetstar crew ???
I don't think this behaviour would have been tolerated so lightly by an Australian based crew. This being a AKL-SIN means it would have been crewed in the cabin by Singapore & New Zealand based Jetstar crew ???
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Um, actually... this service has no New Zealand based crew on it at all. It is a trip out of MEL - SIN - AKL - SIN - MEL. So a mix of Oz based and Singapore based crew.
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That's really gross. Imagine being trapped on an aircraft with this douchebag 
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IIRC one of the many "troubled" NRL stars got charged and fined for similar behaviour in Brisbane's Treasury Casino a few years back. They obviously didn't believe in warnings for urinating on people and neither should any reasonable business, particularly when their other customers can't get away from him.
By doing nothing, the message Jetstar are sending is that it's okay to behave like a chimpanzee on their flights. I thought they had enough trouble with drunken ferals already, without attracting more of them.
But back to the story.....alcohol, the 'great' social culture of the antipodes....
The vast majority of Aussies who drink don't behave like this. I'm sick of yobs trying to excuse crappy behaviour on aircraft (and everywhere else) because they were drunk. No-one held his nose and poured the stuff down his throat.
. IIRC one of the many "troubled"
NRL stars got charged and fined for similar behaviour in Brisbane's Treasury Casino a few years back. They obviously didn't believe in warnings for urinating on people and neither should any reasonable business, particularly when their other customers can't get away from him. By doing nothing, the message Jetstar are sending is that it's okay to behave like a chimpanzee on their flights. I thought they had enough trouble with drunken ferals already, without attracting more of them.
But back to the story.....alcohol, the 'great' social culture of the antipodes....
Whilst I can only rely upon the media account of the incident, I think the operator was very unwise in allowing this offender to escape prosecution.
They have effectively lowered the bar, and in legal terms, set a precedent for acceptance of this type of behavior in the future. This means that, sadly, some future passenger will use this as a defence for another display of totally unacceptable conduct.
Equally, if not more distressing, is the fact that the authority of the crew has been further eroded by the operator's tolerance of this disgusting display.
They have effectively lowered the bar, and in legal terms, set a precedent for acceptance of this type of behavior in the future. This means that, sadly, some future passenger will use this as a defence for another display of totally unacceptable conduct.
Equally, if not more distressing, is the fact that the authority of the crew has been further eroded by the operator's tolerance of this disgusting display.
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You will find there will be no precedent. Just because one clown gets away with something totally and publically unacceptable due to the inept ability of this pathetic operater to lay charges, doesn't mean the next dipsh*t will be so lucky.
Due to the negligence on the part of this low breed operator I'm sure the two affected passengers will be seeking legal advice. A $200 voucher wont cut it.
Also consider the responsible service of alcohol laws, this tosser could also sue Jetstar for failing in their duty of care in continuing to serve him alcohol.
And not to mention the laws of carriage of an intoxicated person, from what I am lead to believe he was intoxicated before he boarded.
Jetstar seriously need a kick up the a#se, but I'm sure Qantas will foot the bill!
Whilst I can only rely upon the media account of the incident, I think the operator was very unwise in allowing this offender to escape prosecution.
They have effectively lowered the bar, and in legal terms, set a precedent for acceptance of this type of behavior in the future. This means that, sadly, some future passenger will use this as a defence for another display of totally unacceptable conduct.
They have effectively lowered the bar, and in legal terms, set a precedent for acceptance of this type of behavior in the future. This means that, sadly, some future passenger will use this as a defence for another display of totally unacceptable conduct.
Due to the negligence on the part of this low breed operator I'm sure the two affected passengers will be seeking legal advice. A $200 voucher wont cut it.
Also consider the responsible service of alcohol laws, this tosser could also sue Jetstar for failing in their duty of care in continuing to serve him alcohol.
And not to mention the laws of carriage of an intoxicated person, from what I am lead to believe he was intoxicated before he boarded.
Jetstar seriously need a kick up the a#se, but I'm sure Qantas will foot the bill!
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I'm a bit surprised the Sing wallopers didn't give him free accom for a night; Changi Prison is only a short drive from Terminal 1.
- only if you land in Australia - does JQ PR even know (or care) where this took place?
if you don't behave after the warning, then it becomes a matter for federal police
It becomes a matter for the police the minute he takes out his whanger and pisses everywhere. The charge is offensive conduct, something that a reasonable and prudent person finds offensive. Has to be committed in a public place, which the interior of an aircraft is classified as, just like a train or bus. If it happened on my aircraft he would have been hauled off and if the coppers didn't want to know about it then I would be seeking an answer as to why from further up the food chain.
Didnt know that you could be fined instead. Probably the best option as most of the time the courts let them off. Avoids a criminal record and (once sober) probably more likely to just pay up and wear it for being a tosser. $1000 fine makes for an expensive trip...
Didnt know that you could be fined instead. Probably the best option as most of the time the courts let them off. Avoids a criminal record and (once sober) probably more likely to just pay up and wear it for being a tosser. $1000 fine makes for an expensive trip...
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Oh God, give me the days when a Skipper would have kicked the bloke all the way up the isle, slapped the handcuffs on, and handed him over by the scruff of the neck to the coppers on arrival. The world has gone mad, and NO CHARGE, jeeesus!
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Nah!.. not worth it these days TG. With Australia's bogan airline standard, and tech crews treated like dirt, let 'em all p*ss in the aisle, then contact the company, tell 'em someones p*ssed in the aisle, and leave it up to them!
Land and go home, have a meal and a glass of wine, and watch the bogan airline shows on TV and thank the Lord that you experienced the "good days"!
Why should tech crews give a stuff these days?
Nobody gives a stuff about tech crews!
Land and go home, have a meal and a glass of wine, and watch the bogan airline shows on TV and thank the Lord that you experienced the "good days"!
Why should tech crews give a stuff these days?
Nobody gives a stuff about tech crews!
Is referring to pilots/flight deck crew/cockpit crew as 'tech crew' an Australian boganism in itself? It hardly engenders respect and assists managements in devaluing the job. I have never heard this term for aircrew anywhere else in the world.
And now Aussie 'tech crew' carry pax that behave like dogs in the street.
And now Aussie 'tech crew' carry pax that behave like dogs in the street.
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Real concerns.
There are`3 elements which seem to have been ignored here; apart from the obvious:
Where did the mess end up, how much has dribbled through to cause corrosion, electrical faults and create a lingering smell or health risk.
Which poor sod got the clean up job and was it done properly? was 'hospital standard' safety gear and chemicals used to do it??.
Why were the clean up cost – new carpet – 'dribble inspection' –risk analysis etc. not added to his fine.
Been me, the bugger would have licked it up after a flogging, rectal surgery and a trip to Carpet World.
I'd have really liked to see a more realistic response from the company.
Selah.
Where did the mess end up, how much has dribbled through to cause corrosion, electrical faults and create a lingering smell or health risk.
Which poor sod got the clean up job and was it done properly? was 'hospital standard' safety gear and chemicals used to do it??.
Why were the clean up cost – new carpet – 'dribble inspection' –risk analysis etc. not added to his fine.
Been me, the bugger would have licked it up after a flogging, rectal surgery and a trip to Carpet World.
I'd have really liked to see a more realistic response from the company.
Selah.