Would Olivia like to comment on this?

[hotnhigh]

Qantas prosecuted for breach of curfew | Stuff.co.nz

[The Kelpie]

expect something like

"this did not involve Qantas, it was Jetconnect!"

It amazes me how during positive news it is all Qantas Qantas Qantas and when there is some adverse publicity she tries to distance the Qantas 'Brand' from it.

Qantas is no longer an Airline, it is just a Company that has an airline as one of it's income streams (or expenditure streams depending how you look at it)

If there was a business brain amongst them they would strengthen the group position by diversification into something that is not airline related that brings in oodles of profit like breaking into the mining sector. Instead these guys want to set up another airline!!!

The mind boggles!!

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The Kelpie

[ozbiggles]

Didn't the Qantas group break a Sydney curfew as well not that long ago?
Bit of a habit creeping in but I guess the company already has good reputation for paying fines after breaking the rules under current management.

[Ultergra]

The curfew has been in place for 14 years.

Jitconnit has been in operation for how long? And already, ALREADY its breaking laws and costing the 'group' money. What a joke!!

The TAB might have bets on a date till the first hull loss. Im not wishing it, but when it happens it will finally be the day we can ALL say, told you so.

[Keg]

Given that Jetconnect is a separate company I guess they'll pay the fine out of their own accounts and it won't impact on Qantas at all....oh, wait.

Why would Qantas comment? Doesn't Jetconnect have it's own media spokespeople? Are Qantas charging Jetconnect and appropriate amount of money for using our spokespeople to respond to things like this?

[The Kelpie]

Jetconnect doesn't have a bank account.

As testified by the jetconnect CEO in the AIPA/Jetconnect case a few months back, or more accurately he wasn't sure!!

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[Fruet Mich]

Jetetconnect does have a bank account as it transferred millions out of it when jetstar pushed the company out of their domestic operations and on to the Tasman flying. If you guys did some research on the new Zealand business websites you would also see their earnings.

Jetconnect has been flying successfully in an and out Wellington, argueably one of the more challenging airports on the the Qantas "group" network for 10 years now as this is how old Jetconnect is.

The Capt was told to continue to Wellington by operations even after the capt questioned the ops controllers on the curfew issue.

[waren9]

Cost of doing business?

Someone on the night obviously decided any possible fine would be cheaper than a divert. I guess they're about to find out.

[ANCDU]

Fruet Mich, Qantas mainline where doing it lot longer before that, but hey thats another story.....or is it. Heard a funny pushback clearance the other day in YMML," cleared to push back clear of the Qantas "painted" 737 " taxiing out from the international", those ATC guys have a bit of cheek!

[framer]

Jitconnit has been in operation for how long? And already, ALREADY its breaking laws and costing the 'group' money. What a joke!!

I imagine these guys were a Wellington crew and knew full well when the curfew kicked in. That leads me to believe there was probably a good reason for not diverting to Auckland or Christchurch.
Just because the media article says there was no reason to be late doesn't mean there was no reason to break the curfew. Thats just what the head of the 'Wellington Air Noise Commitee' said.....doubt he was privvy to the ins and outs of the flight.Probably owns a house beside the airport and votes Green.

[Wally Mk2]

QF/J-connect antics aside the whole idea of a curfew is the real issue. Insane !!!!!

Residents pretty much dictate the safety of an aircraft



Wmk2

[Mr & Mrs Rocketboots]

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doubt he was privvy to the ins and outs of the flight.

Airport company follow up all flights that land/take-off in the curfew period for an explanation from the operator as to why it happened, so he would have been in receipt of this from Qantas ops. Curfew is 0100 local with a 30 minute disruption period. To be another 17 minutes after that would indicate that the flight was always going to be tight to land prior to 0130, something Qantas ops would have known prior to take-off.

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Residents pretty much dictate the safety of an aircraft

Aircraft can land in an emergency without penalty. Obviously this was not the case. Wellington is not the only airport in the world with a curfew.

[The Green Goblin]

Who cleared him to land

from Qantas ops

You mean Jetconnect ops? The separate company and all?

Oh I forgot, Jetconnect is a 'shelf' company and actually doesn't own anything.

[Mr & Mrs Rocketboots]

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You mean Jetconnect ops

Oops - my mistake. Shouldn't look like a duck, walk like a duck and talk like a duck...

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Who cleared him to land

Not their responsiblity. Much like they don't ask for your pilot licence number and check you are suitably rated and current when you ask for a clearance - they expect the pilot/aircraft operator to know and comply with the requirements.

[smylie]

Auckland had 30 kt x wind.
Christchurch had suffered a major earthquake days before and were in rescue mode.
Tower advised Captain to land at Wellington as Christchurch had enough problems on their hands.Nobody checked with airport authority for permission.
**** happens.

[Mr & Mrs Rocketboots]

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Auckland had 30 kt x wind.
Christchurch had suffered a major earthquake days before and were in rescue mode.

Again, all info that Ops would/should have known prior to the aircraft departing Australia.

If it was a divert from another airport, no problem. Airport authority can't give permission to break curfew, only the city council.

[waren9]

Cant 737's do 30kt crosswind landings?

[Jetro6UL]

Originally Posted by waren9

Cant 737's do 30kt crosswind landings?

Jetconnect pilots are on a cheaper EBA.

They don't get paid a crosswind allowance.

[Capn Bloggs]

The Capt was told to continue to Wellington by operations even after the capt questioned the ops controllers on the curfew issue.

Top cover. I like it. "He said to, Sir!"

[stubby jumbo]

Hey guys,

Lay off Our Livvie. She's had a testing week.

First up I heard her on 702 radio copping a serve re: Qantas losing some Guns from some Olympian in FRA.......she was spinning her usual charm magnificently.

Then when the 744 "blew an engine" and had to return to BKK.....there she was back on the job-spinning with total elocutory elegance.

Didn't she get some new promotion to Exco. ???

How comes she is still shovelling ****e to the news hacks.

Oh Olivia -this is well past your job description (and pay grade) now lovie.

Time to get some one with your style,grace,humility and elegance(not to mention the hair)

mmmmm-let me think?????

How about Paris Hilton