QF20 Diversion
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Diverted from Manila to Sydney... Bit far isn't it?
I'm sure the crew did what was needed and it was handled with the upmost professionalism, as you would expect from all Aussie airlines.
I'm sure the crew did what was needed and it was handled with the upmost professionalism, as you would expect from all Aussie airlines.
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"We are currently sitting on the tarmac in Cairns after diverting here due to small electrical fire in the cockpit. We had smelt something burning and captain advised that an electrical system that demists the windscreen had shorted and they had to use fire extinguishers due to sparks.
Now waiting for QF and customs staff to arrive
Aircraft is VH-EBL"
"All handled fairly well by QF given the hour of the morning. We had to wait for Customs & Immigration to arrive but then transferred onto other domestic flights from Cairns, so only a 2-3 hour delay for most. The important thing is that the captain put safety first and kept us well-informed at all times."
Now waiting for QF and customs staff to arrive
Aircraft is VH-EBL"
"All handled fairly well by QF given the hour of the morning. We had to wait for Customs & Immigration to arrive but then transferred onto other domestic flights from Cairns, so only a 2-3 hour delay for most. The important thing is that the captain put safety first and kept us well-informed at all times."
Windscreen fire in a 757
An interesting read about a similar-sounding incident. Captain used two bottles, lost his mask twice, then FO Bloggs switched off the windshield heat and problem solved.
My "Boeing" QRH doesn't say anything about doing that. Good idea though, I think.
An interesting read about a similar-sounding incident. Captain used two bottles, lost his mask twice, then FO Bloggs switched off the windshield heat and problem solved.
My "Boeing" QRH doesn't say anything about doing that. Good idea though, I think.
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Sounds like the F/O used a bit of "knowledge" of the QRH to achieve the desired result.
Condition:
A primary window heat is off.
Objective:
To attempt to reset the system or remove power to prevent arcing.
my bolding
Condition:
A primary window heat is off.
Objective:
To attempt to reset the system or remove power to prevent arcing.
my bolding
From Rumours and News:
Toooooo much information, el capitano! 
One of the 147 passengers on board the flight told the Herald the incident had been ''truly scary''.
The 56-year-old said: ''There was a burning smell in the cabin that was very strong, and then the captain came over the loudspeaker and explained an electrical problem meant there was a serious risk of fire. Later he explained flames had come back for a second time and they'd had to use a fire extinguisher in the cockpit.
''Whenever you hear a pilot talk about a fire on a plane it's truly scary. Clearly the incident could have been catastrophic.''
But the passenger also praised the captain for his calmness during the situation: ''He was very composed over the loudspeaker and when the plane landed he took the time to walk back and talk to the passengers.''
The 56-year-old said: ''There was a burning smell in the cabin that was very strong, and then the captain came over the loudspeaker and explained an electrical problem meant there was a serious risk of fire. Later he explained flames had come back for a second time and they'd had to use a fire extinguisher in the cockpit.
''Whenever you hear a pilot talk about a fire on a plane it's truly scary. Clearly the incident could have been catastrophic.''
But the passenger also praised the captain for his calmness during the situation: ''He was very composed over the loudspeaker and when the plane landed he took the time to walk back and talk to the passengers.''
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Too much truth? Yes maybe but I find the QF crews are very open and honest these days with the actual problem.Honesty at least saves them having to squirm around after being caught BS'ing.
So, short of an announcement causing sheer panic just be honest imho.
So, short of an announcement causing sheer panic just be honest imho.
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How creepy; first JQ20 (EBF), now QF20 (EBL).
There's a surefire (no pun intended) way to prevent any further incidents of this type - don't operate any electric rudder A330-200's under aussie flight numbers unless those flight numbers are anything other than '20'.
Fixed!
As an alternative, maybe Airbus can look carefully at their window heat supplier's products for the production sequence encompassing those two hulls to see if there was some inherent fault in a batch made at that time.
Scary experience to have - so well done to the crew.
There's a surefire (no pun intended) way to prevent any further incidents of this type - don't operate any electric rudder A330-200's under aussie flight numbers unless those flight numbers are anything other than '20'.
Fixed!
As an alternative, maybe Airbus can look carefully at their window heat supplier's products for the production sequence encompassing those two hulls to see if there was some inherent fault in a batch made at that time.
Scary experience to have - so well done to the crew.
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Are you saying they ferry aircraft to and from maintenance locations empty ???? Yes, they do Arkmark, at considerable cost but hey, look how much they save by outsourcing
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In the past , when all A330 heavy maintenance was carried out offshore all aircraft were ferried in empty .
Up until about 18 months ago..... A330s would replace 767 into MNL and aircraft entering/exiting heavy maintenance would be swapped at the ramp.
Now on on the odd occasion an A330 does offshore to LTP in MNL it's not an issue as A330 is now used on QF19/20 sector.
Window heat issues are not a new thing .......and in reality has nothing to do with maintenance be it onshore or offshore.
Up until about 18 months ago..... A330s would replace 767 into MNL and aircraft entering/exiting heavy maintenance would be swapped at the ramp.
Now on on the odd occasion an A330 does offshore to LTP in MNL it's not an issue as A330 is now used on QF19/20 sector.
Window heat issues are not a new thing .......and in reality has nothing to do with maintenance be it onshore or offshore.
