Qantas saves the day

[rmcdonal]

Just to clear this part up for those still following this thread:

Cairo to London/ Frankfurt = Paid for by Australian Government.
London/ Frankfurt to Australia = Free from Qantas, on load based on space available.

Cairns to anywhere = Buy a ticket, tickets bought on the day are always expensive.
Qantas offers free flights home for Cairo evacuees | The Australian

[Hempy]

Originally Posted by balance

If you are going to argue, then do so, don't be a spineless ar$e and try personal attacks to get you out of the crap.

I'm sorry, but I was choking on the irony..

Originally Posted by balance

Rambo, are you for real? If you are, then you are speaking through your @rse

Originally Posted by balance

I'm fairly certain that you have completely missed the point, prof. Which is not surprising, given your unpopularity on this forum.

Originally Posted by balance

What???? You sniveling idiot. I cannot believe it.

Originally Posted by balance

Try reading it again then LGR, you ignorant tosser.

Originally Posted by balance

Very polite. I would have said a bunch of f-wits who will take any opportunity to critisize that which is not their own.

Originally Posted by balance

Good grief. And the stupidity goes on.

Originally Posted by balance

What the? I've just had a flash of the twilight zone where Teresa lives.

Originally Posted by balance

Bite me, TG, you bigoted fool.

Originally Posted by balance

The arrogance of that last post is sad. I truly feel sorry for you, old man.

Originally Posted by balance

YOUR ignorance is profound, ferris.

Originally Posted by balance

The only weasel words I hear are yours

etc, etc. Get on well with your fellow man, do we?

[balance]

Old Fella, Thank you for your valuable input. I am fed up with Teresa's anti QF spin, and I am holding him to account for it.

AFAIK, Psycho Joe is a troll, who hangs about and throws in occasional garbage which is generally slanted against QF as well.

I have been trying to point out to Teresa exactly what the last few posters have stated, that is that the Government (read taxpayers), have paid for the charters out of Cairo to Frankfurt. QF have offered free standby oncarriage from there. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Teresa sounds more and mnore hysterical in denying this. He also slammed QF individually, stating that their actions would cause deaths in NQ. I am holding him to account for this ridiculous and unfounded accusation, which is offensive to anyone who works as Qantas.

I also have a beef with ANYONE who makes unreasonable and unfounded accusations about the company that I proudly work for. I will not stand idly by and watch this crap.

The vitriol and personal attacks from Teresa are unacceptable, not mine. Argue the case, dont bother with the personal attacks. Teresa, quite a few here have stated categorically that you are wrong in your interpretation.

Teresa, apologise to those on this BB, apologise publicly to QF, and admit you are wrong. Then I'll cease pursuing you.

Hempy, your usual excellent contribution to this debate. Again, I will not stand by and listen to fools denigrate that which they do not know. I call it as I see it. And your contribution is crap.

[psycho joe]

151 posts, and virtually every one of them a puerile rant.

I maintain my original point that balance’ motivation here is simply to elicit a certain response; In particular to influence the moderator into closing a thread. In doing so he feels a sense of power. Such short term gratification does not alter his sense of self loathing, which further manifests itself in the form of continued personal attacks in order to assert (the perception of) his dominance.

[Old Fella]

Valuable Contribution

Balance, I don't really care what you think of my contribution. I do, however, care about your tirade of vitriolic condemnation of TG in particular. In my experience, which I suspect is far greater than yours, people who resort to continued personal attacks against others, such as yours have been, are generally insecure and their only recourse is to be offensive to others. BTW, I have never been employed by Qantas and have no opinion of the company, other than to say they are not the only great airline on the planet.

[balance]

Psycho Joe = just that... (oh and that last post of his was in itself a peurile rant. Ironic really...)

Old Fella, I really dont care what YOUR background is either. This ain't a p1ssing match. You sound a little like TG's alter ego though, because you too fail to acknowledge, or even mention the ridiculous, disgusting things TG has posted himself.

If you simply focus on me, not TG, then chances are you have something in your agenda.

Again. for those who might have missed it, Teresa Green said:

but there will be deaths tonight, right here at home, if this thing keeps on building. QF, JQ and the rest need a bollocking over this one. All in the name of the shareholder. A disgrace.

I am so glad that QF did not have your attitude Balance, after Cyclone Tracy. Australians are going to die tonight, you tosser. Some, if they had the money could now be in BNE. Alas 600 bucks could not be met. Give me a reason that the Australians in Cairo, are more important than the people of FNQ. Oh, by the way, the Gold Coast will not be affected.

Why is the flight free from Cairo, where no one has died, and is not free from CNS/TSV where the chances of people dying tonight is very real. And why is it ok with you.

As far as QF giving FREE flights out of Cairo, (when they can get the A/C to function), and being less than generous with the people of FNQ ($600 bucks full y class fare indeed) of course it gives me the sh%ts.

Please, oh please read The Australian. If you wanted to return to OZ it was free. If you wanted to return to Europe it was not. FINISH. End of story, kaput, all over. If you really care for QF then be concerned for where it is now, UP THE CREEK. That is far more important. Save me.

So one must question, why is it okay for Teresa to accuse "QF, JQ and the rest" of costing lives, when it just is not true. Thats a pretty serious accusation when you stop and think about it. It is his TOTAL lack of understandng that really annoys me. He pontificates, yet clearly understands little. I'm tired of people like him, saying whatever they want, making whatever accusations they want, with relative impunity. It needs to stop.

THAT, is poor form.

[Ken Borough]

am off to LHR and my laptop has more important things to do

I hope the break in LHR does something to restore TG's usually good humoured posts. He is way off the mark WRT the CAI charters and the QF response to FNQ. Perhpas the poor guy is either off his medication or suffering from it but he really should apologise for some of the rubbish he had written about QF and its employees, including some of the terrible stuff that has been deleted.

Come on TG, be fair and play as per the SOPs.

[psycho joe]

Balance, you're like an old drunk screaming at a lightpost. The drunk always wins his argument, but the public get an entertaining spectacle.

[Old Fella]

Alter ego's.

Balance I am no "Alter ego" of TG. I simply believe that by any comparison anyone, other than yourself, wishes to make between yours and TG's posts your posts and the language you use are totally unacceptable. As far as I can see TG simply questioned why evacuees from Cairo were offered free flights and those wishing to escape Cyclone Yasi were not. Given that the Premier of Queensland and the PM of Australia went to extraordinary lengths to emphasise the size and severity of Yasi it is reasonable to expect that those unable to afford, but wishing to, leave the area could be assisted. Maybe TG should not have criticised QF, JQ and others for not providing free passage. Yasi was predicted to be the biggest Cyclone ever to hit Australia, much bigger than Tracy. As one who flew numerous flights to and from Darwin in the aftermath of Tracy, in which over 70 people died, I believe evacuating FNQ by whatever means would have been justified.

[Tankengine]

Perhaps the fact that anyone could drive, take bus train etc out of the path of Yasi. In Egypt options were limited. Ask Julia and Anna, not Qantas and Virgin.

[Old Fella]

Ask Julia or Anna

Tankengine I totally agree that the Federal and State governments could/should have done more to get people out of Cairns, especially as for quite some time pre-Yasi making landfall Cairns was thought to be the city most at risk. The anger expressed by Balance at the suggestion by TG that lives would be lost, a suggestion which sadly proved correct, seems to me to be "over the top". The provision of cost free flights from Cairns could have been offered by governments. Of course, available resources could well have been a factor. The RAAF and Army aircraft/crews were already stretched. Irrespective, my problem is not with whom should have done what. I simply believe that Balance did not need to resort to character assination to make his point. If he really is wanting to defend Qantas I am sure there is a better way, and I'm also sure that Qantas would not want the kind of "support" offered by Balance.

[Brewsters Millions]

Bruce saves the day (and his pocket )

JQ (QF Group) paid Boston Bruce an aditional sum of just under $4 million last fiancial year, into a 'consultancy company' he owns, as part of his package, that sum excludes bonuses, salary and other perks. It has been structured in a way that doesnt alert staff and the average joe.
I hope you all consider this when you are negotiating your EBA`s folks. Imagine what the little Irish toad is pocketing in 'extra`s' ??

Execs save themselves from eternal debt...Grubs !

[Mr. Hat]

Qantas donated around $1M to the Queensland floods. How much did Etihad, Emirates, Virgin etc donate?

Cash figure $1.9 Million from VB. Other contributions in the form of airfares etc.

[Hempy]

Etihad $1 mill