Qantas saves the day
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It took you 10 mins to read this thread? 4 at the most.
I was right but not because of their profiles.
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Shut it down, Yes.
But for the right reasons. Those being the dimwitted "I'm going to knock Qantas even though I've no reason to other than they are an airline I dont work for and by the way I have an IQ in single figures" crowd.
But for the right reasons. Those being the dimwitted "I'm going to knock Qantas even though I've no reason to other than they are an airline I dont work for and by the way I have an IQ in single figures" crowd.
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As critical as I can be sometimes, today the ALAEA received a call from Qantas management advising us that Qantas LAMEs in Cairns have been given the week off work on full pay because of the cyclone. The could have enforced a clause in the EBA for no pay due to circumstances beyond their control.
In my view they do act responsibly and reasonably during times of crisis and their actions today have not gone unnoticed.
In my view they do act responsibly and reasonably during times of crisis and their actions today have not gone unnoticed.
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What's wrong biton... Did I say anything that is not a rumour, something that isn't news? Oh I did only mention things that were a rumour and or news.
Why shut the thread down? Are you worried because other carriers are having a bad press day, read: VOZ, and Qantas are getting all the good press?
Relax, princess.
Why shut the thread down? Are you worried because other carriers are having a bad press day, read: VOZ, and Qantas are getting all the good press?
Relax, princess.
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The thing is that qantas are doing nothing more nor less than their competitors here. As stated, the Cairo flight is a government charter and they will not be doing it for charity. Re the cyclone situation, vb and jetstar also put on extra flights and for the record, would you care to see how much they are all charging. And you start this thread to claim Qantas are some sort of hero airline. Are you kidding? Yes, they have copped a lot of media attention of late but to run a thread like this just makes you look naive and desperate. You keep running with it though, I'm sure it will provide us all with much amusement. There are more relevant stories out there, as fed sec has alluded to, like how the various airlines treat their staff at times like these. There are many stories where an airline has gone over and above and these are much more relevant than the examples you're using.
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shall we resolve the petty conflict by being factual:
1. It's a charter at a commercial rate - not subject to competitive tender but a quasi-given obligation under the national flag carrier status
2. The flight is crewed by those willing to do it - except in the case of CC wherein the company's position is that in the event of insufficient CC volunteers it will force the crew to operate (ie disregard the hostile/war like provision agreements)......which will probably see the non unionised LHR crew being thrown in. [opinion: well done to the UK unions who are too busy worry about their BA staff travel]
3. There is nothing noble, gracious or brave being done whatsoever - so pls don't nominate AJ for next year's Australian of the Year.......however....
4. those pax wanting to get out will be (and should be grateful to the taxpayer) ...(relatives pls note the nomination link on the qantas website)
5. the choir/travolta/selected sports celebs/& Olivia are not required for the arrival into YSSY
6. QF corporate wank dept - pls refer item 5 above
7. cue the mods to ditch the thread
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1. It's a charter at a commercial rate - not subject to competitive tender but a quasi-given obligation under the national flag carrier status
2. The flight is crewed by those willing to do it - except in the case of CC wherein the company's position is that in the event of insufficient CC volunteers it will force the crew to operate (ie disregard the hostile/war like provision agreements)......which will probably see the non unionised LHR crew being thrown in. [opinion: well done to the UK unions who are too busy worry about their BA staff travel]
3. There is nothing noble, gracious or brave being done whatsoever - so pls don't nominate AJ for next year's Australian of the Year.......however....
4. those pax wanting to get out will be (and should be grateful to the taxpayer) ...(relatives pls note the nomination link on the qantas website)
5. the choir/travolta/selected sports celebs/& Olivia are not required for the arrival into YSSY
6. QF corporate wank dept - pls refer item 5 above
7. cue the mods to ditch the thread
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Yes and why are they only doing 1 flight to Europe?
Surely they could do a couple of shuttles to DXB and thus extract a few more stranded Aussies in the process. 400 pax wont be enough surely?
Surely they could do a couple of shuttles to DXB and thus extract a few more stranded Aussies in the process. 400 pax wont be enough surely?
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How much the airfare out of Cairo. Must say very disappointed in all airlines that chose to charge PAX 600 bucks to get out of CNS/BNE. Tough luck for mum and the kids if they did not have the money. Even tougher if they lose they lives, because underfunded. The QF DRW flight after Tracy cost not a cent, nor did it cost on TAA (I know because I took a F27 out of there full of ladies about to give birth) to the Alice. The F/O and I were petrified, we pulled the curtain in case we had to see something we did not want to see, (two were in labour) and yes we had two doctors and some nurses aboard, (thank God). Of course both airlines were owned by the Govt at the time, but that does not explain why a little common decency cannot be exercised today.
This should shut-up all the nay-sayers etc etc etc
From smh.com.au today 2Feb
On second thoughts, Qantas' generous gesture (
) won't silence the mob. Now we'll have snide comments about loads, impact on Staff Travel or even the fact that the Cairo refugees will have to find their own way to London. 
From smh.com.au today 2Feb
Qantas offers free onward flights to Aussies fleeing Cairo
Andrew Heasley
February 2, 2011 - 2:37PM
Australians fleeing the unrest in Cairo who manage to get on the special evacuation government-chartered Qantas flights to Frankfurt are being offered free onward flights to Australia.
The free flights to Australia will leave from either Frankfurt or London on Qantas.
Staff from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade will be on the relief flights to organise the details of people wishing to get home on the free flights.
While Qantas says they have sufficient seats available for passengers who arrive at Frankfurt for their sector to Australia, there may be additional capacity on flights leaving London.
Qantas spokesman Thomas Woodward said some passengers may chose to go to London for the flight home as there may be earlier flight availability, while there may be a wait for seats on flights out of Frankfurt.
If passengers chose to travel from Frankfurt to London, they must do so under their own arrangements, the airline said.
In order to qualify for the free flight home, Qantas says:
"■ Passengers must have travelled on the Australian Government's evacuation charter flights from Cairo to Frankfurt;
"■ All flights are subject to availability although at this stage there is sufficient capacity to take passengers from either Frankfurt or London; and
"■ Passengers travelling to Australia from London will be required to make their own arrangements for transfer from Frankfurt to London."
The first Qantas relief flight chartered by the Australian Government will be on QF6020 which is due to leave Cairo at 4pm today local Egyptian time (1am Thursday ADST).
The flight code and schedule for the second relief flight from Cairo has not yet been settled — negotiations with Egyptian air authorities are continuing — but is likely to be 24 hours after the first flight, Mr Woodward said.
The federal government has chartered a Qantas 412-seat Boeing 747 but there are at least 1200 Australians registered with Australian embassy in Cairo.
Andrew Heasley
February 2, 2011 - 2:37PM
Australians fleeing the unrest in Cairo who manage to get on the special evacuation government-chartered Qantas flights to Frankfurt are being offered free onward flights to Australia.
The free flights to Australia will leave from either Frankfurt or London on Qantas.
Staff from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade will be on the relief flights to organise the details of people wishing to get home on the free flights.
While Qantas says they have sufficient seats available for passengers who arrive at Frankfurt for their sector to Australia, there may be additional capacity on flights leaving London.
Qantas spokesman Thomas Woodward said some passengers may chose to go to London for the flight home as there may be earlier flight availability, while there may be a wait for seats on flights out of Frankfurt.
If passengers chose to travel from Frankfurt to London, they must do so under their own arrangements, the airline said.
In order to qualify for the free flight home, Qantas says:
"■ Passengers must have travelled on the Australian Government's evacuation charter flights from Cairo to Frankfurt;
"■ All flights are subject to availability although at this stage there is sufficient capacity to take passengers from either Frankfurt or London; and
"■ Passengers travelling to Australia from London will be required to make their own arrangements for transfer from Frankfurt to London."
The first Qantas relief flight chartered by the Australian Government will be on QF6020 which is due to leave Cairo at 4pm today local Egyptian time (1am Thursday ADST).
The flight code and schedule for the second relief flight from Cairo has not yet been settled — negotiations with Egyptian air authorities are continuing — but is likely to be 24 hours after the first flight, Mr Woodward said.
The federal government has chartered a Qantas 412-seat Boeing 747 but there are at least 1200 Australians registered with Australian embassy in Cairo.
On second thoughts, Qantas' generous gesture (
) won't silence the mob. Now we'll have snide comments about loads, impact on Staff Travel or even the fact that the Cairo refugees will have to find their own way to London.
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Qantas does end up providing free flights for those in Egypt
Just been announced by the PM that Qantas will be providing free flights for those affected by the unrest in Egypt.
I don't have a newspaper source, but she just mentioned this in her announcement on 7news.
So, all you QF-Bashers, what will you criticise about QF now?
Sure, it came a little late, but the service is there.
I don't have a newspaper source, but she just mentioned this in her announcement on 7news.
So, all you QF-Bashers, what will you criticise about QF now?
Sure, it came a little late, but the service is there.
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Just heard Julia Gillard announce that Qantas has offered free onwards travel for those evacuated from Cairo. Ms Gillard stated the Governments sincere appreciation for Qantas kind gesture.
Guess we will shortly hear a retraction and a humble apology from a few of those f-wits who have chosen this forum to denigrate our national carrier, who "is always there".
And in fairness for those who will knock the fares charged out of Cairns, remember, the flights were additional, and they came in empty. No one paid for the flights in, therefore, significant cost that would need to be recouped. I'm not justifying it, it just is. Anyway, I'm not at all sure I'd pay $6 for a Jetstar flight, let alone $600. I'd rather face the cyclone.
Guess we will shortly hear a retraction and a humble apology from a few of those f-wits who have chosen this forum to denigrate our national carrier, who "is always there".
And in fairness for those who will knock the fares charged out of Cairns, remember, the flights were additional, and they came in empty. No one paid for the flights in, therefore, significant cost that would need to be recouped. I'm not justifying it, it just is. Anyway, I'm not at all sure I'd pay $6 for a Jetstar flight, let alone $600. I'd rather face the cyclone.
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Easy, as from my former post, where are the free flights out of CNS and TSV? These people are in bigger danger, than tourists from the Nile, who might have a few hot and uncomfortable days in the airport. 600 bucks indeed. A disgrace. You cannot expect the Airforce to take the whole bloody lot, some people are not suitable to be strap hangers. There have been no talk of deaths amoungst Australians in Cairo, but there will be deaths tonight, right here at home, if this thing keeps on building. QF, JQ and the rest need a bollocking over this one. All in the name of the shareholder. A 
disgrace.
disgrace.