A380 - VH-OQA Write Off.
I would have thought they would be more worried about killing people.
They are only worried about killing people because it will affect their sales and could lead to litigation from the families.
In the interest of clearing up the speculation....
Airbus have a proposal on the table and this is about to be signed by Qantas, once the amount of the deposit and some contract wording has been agreed. The repairs will be carried out in Singapore and it will take some time before the first rivet is drilled out, maybe another month or so. The Insurance companies (there is more than one) are ready with the funds. Airbus is ready, willing and able to do the structural work. The issue between RR and Qantas and Insurers is completely separate and has nothing to do with the repairs to the aircraft.
The total repair costs are substantial but the aircraft is no where near a write off, or more correctly a CTL. Don't know what that means? Look it up.
Airbus have a proposal on the table and this is about to be signed by Qantas, once the amount of the deposit and some contract wording has been agreed. The repairs will be carried out in Singapore and it will take some time before the first rivet is drilled out, maybe another month or so. The Insurance companies (there is more than one) are ready with the funds. Airbus is ready, willing and able to do the structural work. The issue between RR and Qantas and Insurers is completely separate and has nothing to do with the repairs to the aircraft.
The total repair costs are substantial but the aircraft is no where near a write off, or more correctly a CTL. Don't know what that means? Look it up.
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"CTL. Don't know what that means? Look it up."
Rather an arrogant and unhelpful attitude, that doesn't reflect well on the author.
I don't need to look it up.
Contingent Liability I presume?
Rather an arrogant and unhelpful attitude, that doesn't reflect well on the author.
I don't need to look it up.
Contingent Liability I presume?
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CTL Complete Total Loss
The lack of progress on this raises eyebrows. I am sure reliable sources stated that it was going to be back in service in May and that 6 or 7 months was quoted.
Lets just hope it gets fixed properly
The lack of progress on this raises eyebrows. I am sure reliable sources stated that it was going to be back in service in May and that 6 or 7 months was quoted.
Lets just hope it gets fixed properly
Constructive Total Loss. Means there is still some salvage available to be sold after the Insurance companies have paid out the sum insured. As opposed to a Total Loss which is a smoking hole in the ground.
Sorry about the attitude. Just feel some of the mis-information on this site needs to be corrected. Everyone involved in this project is doing their best to get this aircraft serviceable again as soon as possible, but it is new territory for everyone - especially Airbus. Qantas, the insurance companies, Airbus etc are all working together.
There is no "twisting between the wings", or in the fuselage.
Sorry about the attitude. Just feel some of the mis-information on this site needs to be corrected. Everyone involved in this project is doing their best to get this aircraft serviceable again as soon as possible, but it is new territory for everyone - especially Airbus. Qantas, the insurance companies, Airbus etc are all working together.
There is no "twisting between the wings", or in the fuselage.
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According to The Age, all repairs will be completed in Singapore. They also report that the cost of repairs are approaching the cost of purchase . . . but not replacement cost, I presume? (my bold/italic)
Repairs to damaged Qantas A380 set to begin
Matt O'Sullivan
March 17, 2011
The Qantas A380 superjumbo suffered extensive damage from a midair engine explosion in November last year.
Repairs to the Qantas A380 that suffered extensive damage from a midair engine explosion in November will begin in the next few weeks.
Estimates of the cost of the work reach as high as $150 million.
The A380 has been stored in a hangar at Singapore's Changi Airport while Qantas and the aircraft's manufacturer, Airbus, assessed the best options for repairing the double-decker plane. Its windows and exterior openings have been covered and silica gel used to prevent the A380 from corroding in the tropical heat.
A full analysis of the repairs that need to be done has been completed but no repair work has been undertaken since it was grounded in Singapore after the explosion on November 4.
Qantas has said that the repair bill would be at least $100 million, but more recent internal estimates have put it at closer to $150 million. The airline has repeatedly ruled out writing off the A380, named the Nancy Bird-Walton, despite the cost of the repairs nearing what it cost to buy the aircraft.
The airline bought the A380 for about half the list price of $327 million, gaining the discount because it was a launch customer for Airbus's flagship superjumbo aircraft.
A Qantas spokesman said the repairs would begin in the ''coming weeks'', and would be performed by Airbus engineers under the supervision of the airline's staff in Singapore.
''We have been working closely with Airbus on repairs. We have planned for most, if not all of the work, to be done in Singapore before the aircraft returns to Australia,'' he said.
The airline has said the damage to the A380 will be covered by insurance and contractual arrangements with the engine manufacturer, Rolls-Royce. However, it is still locked in negotiations with Rolls-Royce about the damages. Qantas has reserved the right to sue Rolls-Royce in Australia if they cannot reach a settlement.
The airline still expects the aircraft to be returned to Australia by the end of the year despite the delays to the repair work.
Repairs to damaged Qantas A380 set to begin
Matt O'Sullivan
March 17, 2011
The Qantas A380 superjumbo suffered extensive damage from a midair engine explosion in November last year.
Repairs to the Qantas A380 that suffered extensive damage from a midair engine explosion in November will begin in the next few weeks.
Estimates of the cost of the work reach as high as $150 million.
The A380 has been stored in a hangar at Singapore's Changi Airport while Qantas and the aircraft's manufacturer, Airbus, assessed the best options for repairing the double-decker plane. Its windows and exterior openings have been covered and silica gel used to prevent the A380 from corroding in the tropical heat.
A full analysis of the repairs that need to be done has been completed but no repair work has been undertaken since it was grounded in Singapore after the explosion on November 4.
Qantas has said that the repair bill would be at least $100 million, but more recent internal estimates have put it at closer to $150 million. The airline has repeatedly ruled out writing off the A380, named the Nancy Bird-Walton, despite the cost of the repairs nearing what it cost to buy the aircraft.
The airline bought the A380 for about half the list price of $327 million, gaining the discount because it was a launch customer for Airbus's flagship superjumbo aircraft.
A Qantas spokesman said the repairs would begin in the ''coming weeks'', and would be performed by Airbus engineers under the supervision of the airline's staff in Singapore.
''We have been working closely with Airbus on repairs. We have planned for most, if not all of the work, to be done in Singapore before the aircraft returns to Australia,'' he said.
The airline has said the damage to the A380 will be covered by insurance and contractual arrangements with the engine manufacturer, Rolls-Royce. However, it is still locked in negotiations with Rolls-Royce about the damages. Qantas has reserved the right to sue Rolls-Royce in Australia if they cannot reach a settlement.
The airline still expects the aircraft to be returned to Australia by the end of the year despite the delays to the repair work.
Ejector...
Sure, walschaert valve's initial reference to CTL (post #144 on 8th March) seemed to be expressed with a bit of an 'attitude' problem, which he/she apologised for in post #147 the same day by elaborating that CTL = Constructive Total Loss.
If you read the posts, and did your supposed Google search using the term wv provided on 8th March, then this is what you would have found on the FIRST page of your search! In fact the first 'return' on page 1 of the search:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journal...LJ/1989/10.pdf really said it all.
Return #4 on page 1 of the search also revealed:
Source: What is constructive total loss (CTL)? definition and meaning, Business Dictionary
I can't understand why you seem to have a problem with this?
Sure, walschaert valve's initial reference to CTL (post #144 on 8th March) seemed to be expressed with a bit of an 'attitude' problem, which he/she apologised for in post #147 the same day by elaborating that CTL = Constructive Total Loss.
If you read the posts, and did your supposed Google search using the term wv provided on 8th March, then this is what you would have found on the FIRST page of your search! In fact the first 'return' on page 1 of the search:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journal...LJ/1989/10.pdf really said it all.
Return #4 on page 1 of the search also revealed:
In insurance, not an 'actual total loss' but a situation where (1) the actual total loss appears unavoidable (as in case of perishable goods), or (2) a partial loss has occurred to an extent that the property is beyond economical repair (cost of restoring it exceeds its insured value).
In CTL cases, the insured may (if terms of the insurance policy permit) abandon the property by giving a 'notice of abandonment' to the insurer who then assumes all rights to the property.
In CTL cases, the insured may (if terms of the insurance policy permit) abandon the property by giving a 'notice of abandonment' to the insurer who then assumes all rights to the property.
I can't understand why you seem to have a problem with this?
OK, the poster did come back later, I do agree, after reading the arrogant comment, I did a search on CTL and made my reply to his rudeness which he later expanded on explaining with a good definition. When I do d "CTL" search alone, at the point of impact we did not know what it meant, Google is of little help, the expanded version, there is much information, I agree.
As he did correct him self, I will happily Edit my thoughts.
Thanks fro the expanded definition links by the way.
As he did correct him self, I will happily Edit my thoughts.
Thanks fro the expanded definition links by the way.
Heard today that poor
'Nancy' is in bad shape for future flying.....
It seems that Toulouse has changed the wing section / manufacturing process for this model, and to get the aircraft flying, it needs both wings to match...
Therefore....because they cannot get it to Toulouse, and this necessary work cannot be done ' in the field', it seems an 'impasse' has been reached.
It could well be that the only solution available, so I hear, is to scrap the one in 'Singers' for bits, and to supply QF with another one......
True or False..??
Cheers
'Nancy' is in bad shape for future flying.....
It seems that Toulouse has changed the wing section / manufacturing process for this model, and to get the aircraft flying, it needs both wings to match...
Therefore....because they cannot get it to Toulouse, and this necessary work cannot be done ' in the field', it seems an 'impasse' has been reached.
It could well be that the only solution available, so I hear, is to scrap the one in 'Singers' for bits, and to supply QF with another one......
True or False..??
Cheers
Therefore....because they cannot get it to Toulouse, and this necessary work cannot be done ' in the field', it seems an 'impasse' has been reached.
It could well be that the only solution available, so I hear, is to scrap the one in 'Singers' for bits, and to supply QF with another one......
It could well be that the only solution available, so I hear, is to scrap the one in 'Singers' for bits, and to supply QF with another one......